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salvia 15 extract is it worth buying
    #5059458 - 12/13/05 08:11 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Im thinking about buying some this friday is it even worth drive to the shop and wasting my money on?? :ooo:


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: amenra]
    #5059467 - 12/13/05 08:12 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

what do you mean by worth it?

if you're looking to be ripped from the face of the earth, then yes, it's well worth it.


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: WeAreAllOne]
    #5059616 - 12/13/05 08:42 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Salvia divinorum is with out a doubt worth buying if you are looking for a very strong, hallucinogenic experience. Salvia, and even more so 15x extract,is not to be taken lightly. It should be used with respect and with your total attention on the experience.The strongest effects start in about one minute and last five or six minutes more before diminishing to none after a half hour. THIS NOT A PARTY DRUG!!! You will be taken away from your surroundings into a world of geometric shapes and patterns, beautiful colors and a stretching and twisting of time and space. You should devote a time and place where you will not be distracted. You can not and must not drive. Enjoy the experience. Peace and happiness, jack080247    :smile: :smile:


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: WeAreAllOne]
    #5059619 - 12/13/05 08:43 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

you arent wasting your money if you're buying salvia :smile:


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: tactik]
    #5059652 - 12/13/05 08:51 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

salvia is a very intense expirience, I think its worth the money. I'll never buy it again though, too fucking mental. Defintly worth the money to try it though.


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: amenra]
    #5061060 - 12/14/05 05:25 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

while driving drive
while smoking smoke

if you don't want to drive, don't blame the smoke, order from one of the shroomery sponsers on-line.

but smoking salvia has variables:
some people smoke badly
some pipes suck
some people do not get effects.
many people think the effects are too much


aside from that 15x standardized will be excellent
black crude 15x might be ok.
at least with 15x you do not need a torch lighter an donly need a small pipe with any screen.


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5284604 - 02/10/06 04:30 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Last post is crap.

With any salvia you need a torch because it has a higher boiling point than marijuana, or other smokables. USE A TORCH OR YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME.

Also, you'll notice that the higher extracts are only a bit more expensive per gram. It's worth the extra cash, because anything under 20x, you'll be lucky if you get any visuals.

Also, use a bong, and fill that sucker up. It's best to fill a chamber completely and take it all in one big hit than keep going back for more. The smoke is smooth, and you'll be sure you burned all the salvia and didn't waste any.

For a first time, I think it's best to get the shit scared out of you, so go for 40x, in a 12" bong, and USE A TORCH. Take it all in one big rip, and then lay down promptly.

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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: maetl]
    #5284631 - 02/10/06 04:59 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

maetl said:
Last post is crap.





WTF? You revived a thread that has been dead for months and say that the last post, from a respected member of the community,is crap, I can't see anything wrong with it. If anything your post is crap, advising someone that they're wasting their time with less than 20x. 10x smoked properly would be enough to rip most people off the face of the earth.


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: abrad84]
    #5284770 - 02/10/06 06:51 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i just bought 10x last night.. and want visuals... the guy above said you dont see visuals with anything less than 20x.. is this true?


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: agoutihead]
    #5284784 - 02/10/06 07:10 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

No,not in my experience. 10x smoked properly should produce a very intense experience, but be aware that some people experience a reverse tolerance effect. I am pretty that this is why people keep saying 5x/10x is too weak.


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: abrad84]
    #5284893 - 02/10/06 08:14 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The first time i did salvia i smoked 5x out of a bubbler, 2 big hits; probably about a 1/4 gram.

I didnt get visual patterns, fractals, etc., but colors and objects seemed very ethereal and dreamy, colors were bright and heavy.

It depends on what you see as being a visual


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: Abrainspot]
    #5284966 - 02/10/06 08:42 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i dont know if i have ever had CEV... i guess i have... more so colors are just very "colorful" to me... whether it be shrooms or acid.

hoping for some good visuals on sally d


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: agoutihead]
    #5285124 - 02/10/06 09:33 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

10x can easily send you much too far than you wanted. 15x is a very very powerful extract. It is worth buying if you want to try salvia :p

And you don't need a torch that's bullshit. Maybe it will be optimal with plain leaf, but with strong extracts, i used matches and bics and they all do the same.

now if you dont get visual even from 5x theres a prob ;p


Edited by Grapefruity (02/10/06 09:34 AM)


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: Grapefruity]
    #5285192 - 02/10/06 09:50 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

cant you just smoke a bigger bowl of the 10x to get the effects of a smaller bowl of 15x??


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: agoutihead]
    #5285194 - 02/10/06 09:51 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

oh yeah... how often can you take the "salvia trip".... once a day... once a week... a few times a day?

whats the limit?


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: agoutihead]
    #5285366 - 02/10/06 10:36 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The only limit is the one you put on yourself. Though after smoking some salvia you most likely will not want to do it too often.


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: Pingasa]
    #5285604 - 02/10/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

has anyone ever done it more than once in a day?

are the experiences the same... or very very different each time with the use of saliva - a few times a day and also very rarely... does it change much?


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: agoutihead]
    #5285754 - 02/10/06 12:40 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Really small doses are cool, I can take a few of them in one day, though I very rarely even have salvia. It's similar to a very strong marijuana buzz, but just more intense. Try this, put just a little pinch of 10x or 15x in your bowl, take it in one hit, and start dancing to some good music, comon express your heart out! I felt tribal and all :p...That's the only way ill take salvia again I guess.

But after a big trip, I never have the will to take more that day or months after, until I don't realize how overwhelming it is anymore, then I get the same lesson again. Heh


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: Grapefruity]
    #5285920 - 02/10/06 01:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

so your saying that its just an "intense marijuana feeling" where everyone else is saying that its a catalyst to another world of dreams that nothing else on this earth is comparable to.

also i just read that they still cant synthesize the active ingredient in salvia... wont keep right apparently.


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: agoutihead]
    #5285944 - 02/10/06 01:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i think it is worth the experience. it is something you can get information from that you cant anywhere else. it totally depends on the person taking it to how it will effect them... i first smoked 20x through a normal pipe with a torch lighter... i took a really big hit and held it in as long as i could, followed by a few more hits... it is nice to have someone not smoking it to help you pack more or take the pipe and just watch over... at time it is very hard to do things like packing more salvia in a bowl while tripping on it... have fun!


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: LochRaven]
    #5288192 - 02/11/06 09:22 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Agoutihead,

can't you read, i said small doses were like a small mj buzz.

I also said in the same post that a trip is extremely overwhelming.

And in my opinion, gathering this info before you trip is pretty useless. You take your hit and it doesnt matter anymore, cuz its not what you were waiting for. This organization of the salvia trip you try to figure out doesnt exist in salvia world. I donno. Dont pack yourself with expectations.


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: Grapefruity]
    #5289508 - 02/11/06 05:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

oh i didnt see where you said that... but any amount of salvia... even little bits are supposed to throw you over the edge..

what do you mean dont pack myself with expectations?

are you saying like its so crazy/uncontrollable/goofy/confusing that you cant remember or make anything out of the experience when your done?


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: agoutihead]
    #5289523 - 02/11/06 05:32 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

When I smoked Salvia it was 5x on top of some leaf the guy from the head shop gave me. I smoked it from a bong and went crazy (in a good way). I was very geometric in a way, everything seemed to be made of bricks, it was odd but very fun.


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: agoutihead]
    #5289557 - 02/11/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

agoutihead said:
oh i didnt see where you said that... but any amount of salvia... even little bits are supposed to throw you over the edge..

what do you mean dont pack myself with expectations?

are you saying like its so crazy/uncontrollable/goofy/confusing that you cant remember or make anything out of the experience when your done?




I think what he is saying (and I agree) is that no matter what people tell you about what salvia is like it wont help you understand what it really is like because you don?t have the awareness to understand it. Until you smoke it, you will have no idea what it is like. Once you smoke it you will begin to understand what everyone was talking about. You will be then open to that channel of awareness.

And NO, a small amount of salvia will not "throw you over the edge" and in a way is could be considered "like cannabis" in a very small amount but in the same token could also be considered completely different then cannabis.

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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5291457 - 02/12/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I took one big rip with a bic and a bong, i think it was 10x extract. The shit gave me such a horrible trip, nothing learned from it. I did do it in a setting that I knew would probably catapult me into a bad trip, so I tried to take as little as possible. At first it was pretty cool, for like 10 seconds. It was like gravity shifted up about 10 points, making my ass indent in the coach even bigger. Then I blanked out, this went on for an estimated 5 minutes. Next thing you know I'm in a state of pure confusion and uncomfortness... A very horrible experience. I still saw everything normally but I was completely confused by it, just completely befuddled by reality. I didn't even know I was on Salvia. I may do the it again some day in the right setting, but don't listen to anyone telling you to do huge amounts for your first time. Ease into it.


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: beatnicknick]
    #5291594 - 02/12/06 02:05 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

what kind of a setting where you in that you knew would have made it a bad trip?


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Re: salvia 15 extract is it worth buying [Re: agoutihead]
    #5294580 - 02/13/06 12:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

In my opinion, if I try to put myself in your current mindset that would be even much more apprehensive than you are now if you were about to smoke salvia extract, Id imagine it wouldnt be quite a good trip. Very bad, actually, maybe. I might be wrong though. Cuz it can bring effects that are really strong, you can't even try to imagine how strong it is.

Id try a really small dose first. Like 1/20g of 10x. A little pinch man. Youll see if you dig the kind of ride it is.


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