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Strange ID situation *pics* (please plz help)
    #5048819 - 12/11/05 04:06 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I thought the bach of dried meanies I picked up was all dandy. I thought i had it identified. I was under the impression they were cubensis but a few mushrooms in the bag actually had white gills. i know that means they are poisonus . I was wondering if maybe they were just dried so much and so old that they turned white or what? im scared. here is some pictures. a majority of the shrooms in the bag had good looking gills.


the good  ones  look  like this
they smell like magic mushies, and have pretty long skinny pasterey magic mushroomery looking stems going up to a few inches long, caps are pretty thin and cracker-dry at this point  so brusiing and spore prints is not really an option, but i think i see some blue bruising on the ones with good gills, there are some more neat pics of those at the bottom of this thread at the moment. thanks!



a full frontal of one of the smaller little pretty shrooms.


but aaaaah! look at those gills :frown:


here is a shot of another one of the shrooms that gills where white. the cap looked the same the one in the photos above.


being albino maybe a posibility?


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Re: Strange ID situation *pics* [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #5048856 - 12/11/05 04:15 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Man I have no clue....

The only reason I'm replying is cuz I cant stop looking at that ...that... well you know...!

Ohh see there I go again :shocked:


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Re: Strange ID situation *pics* [Re: YESSUP]
    #5049242 - 12/11/05 05:58 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

my damn sig always distracts people from answering my question.

this is a life or death situation here!!! (actually i wont eat the shrooms until someone gives me an answer so im just wasting valuable trip time)


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Re: Strange ID situation *pics* [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #5049324 - 12/11/05 06:27 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

dont look like p cubensis to me.. even tho there drier then granmas well you know.....and with white gills i have never seen dry cubes lose all the spores where as the gills are no longer purple

i jus cant tell from those pictures
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Re: Strange ID situation *pics* [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #5049355 - 12/11/05 06:34 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Not cubes 100%. Are you sure the rest are?


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Re: Strange ID situation *pics* [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #5049389 - 12/11/05 06:44 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

hey nuggetpouch,

there is a chance that they could be albino or sporeless Cubensis

but i wouldnt take my chances.

do you have a picture of the other shrooms in your collection?


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Re: Strange ID situation *pics* [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #5049455 - 12/11/05 07:00 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

yeah well im going to take pictures of the other mushrooms A.S.A.P, the ones with the good looking gills - plz keep helping me out guys! much luv

also yeah they probabaly are not cubes, but the rest look the same except they are more curled up and ofcourse the gills look normal. ummmm, okay  putting pictures up in a  sec  :thumbup:


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Re: Strange ID situation *pics* [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #5049490 - 12/11/05 07:09 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

okay, here are the pictures, they have also been posted at the begining of the thread now, sorry for putting  them up twice just didnt want anyone to miss them! :smile:


this is the two shroms  next to eachother, the one on  top is the shroom displayed in the begining of the post the one w ith the  white gills, the one on the bottom is the one with the normal gills, as you can se e they look similar.


this is the gills on the shrooms that i presume to be good, the cap is
displayed in the picture above this one.


the shroom  im not so sure about looks exactly the same right? (the lighting is brigher)



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Re: Strange ID situation *pics* [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #5052290 - 12/12/05 01:13 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

They look fine to me, I've seen similar looking cubes. I would hope people would not mix different mushrooms. And white gills does not always mean poisonus.


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Re: Strange ID situation *pics* (please plz help) [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #5052666 - 12/12/05 02:30 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

A pound of weed, a couple thousand dollars and pussy. What more do you need?


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Re: Strange ID situation *pics* (please plz help) [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #5053474 - 12/12/05 04:52 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

what more do i need?

a connect that doesnt give me shrooms that have white gills! (or a cow field)


:fishsmack: this is whats going to happen to the guy who sold me these if they are not good!


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Re: Strange ID situation *pics* (please plz help) [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #5057191 - 12/13/05 12:28 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

"A pound of weed, a couple thousand dollars and pussy. What more do you need?"

There is no way in hell that is a full pound of weed.


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Re: Strange ID situation *pics* (please plz help) [Re: Dety]
    #5057406 - 12/13/05 01:05 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

lol no that would be a half ounce. but nonetheless i still need a more definate answer and a lot more help with the topic of this post, because i REAAAALLY want to eat these babies and its been two days !

a cookie  for the person who helps me out :laugh:


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Re: Strange ID situation *pics* (please plz help) [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #5057832 - 12/13/05 02:20 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

It sounds like you harvested these mushrooms from a field and the probability of an albino Cube/Cope is very very slim compared to that of you picking up another species. White Gilles are never worth it---and Im assuming you picked these from the SouthEast (like maybe Florida where I pikem)...that big one espeically looks like some type of Amanita...the Green Gilled Lepiota (Green Gill when fully mature---white when young) Not deadly but extremely toxic---I know from personal experience when I was pretty sure of my first harvest as well. Im surprised the shroom wizard didnt present that probability---Its been a long time since those jacksonville scourings but Mike knows blue meanies more than anybody and finding an albino is like finding a 4 leaf clover. Id put my money on an amanita before a Cope but in either case---it aint worth it if the gills arent anything but purple, chocolate or black.


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Re: Strange ID situation *pics* (please plz help) [Re: OrizonsHorizon]
    #5058157 - 12/13/05 03:29 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

ok well first of all- i bought them from somebody, already dried. so if he sold me posionus shrooms hes going to be in some shit. second off i would like to be sure considering i am in florida, is there a way to take a spore print of an already dried out mushroom?


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Re: Strange ID situation *pics* (please plz help) [Re: Nuggetpouch]
    #5058291 - 12/13/05 03:52 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Well, the shrooms were definately harvested and not cultivated since its a mix of Cubes and what appears to be some type of Panaeolus in that top pic. I dont want to scare you from diving into your stash but in my experiences, white gills have been inactive at best and deadly in the worst case. Now that I an examining the scenario more carefully, it appears those other smaller white mushrooms could be a another Panaeolus grown side by side BLue meanies---they fool me all the time especially when they mature and get the dark gills closely resembleling Copes. The Panaeolus antillarum is an inactive Pan having lighter gills in its youth amogste other very subtle differences with the COpe. THe good news is that these dont contain any poison but nor are they psychoactive.
THe Spore print thing probably wont tell you much more than you already know---your definatly not gonna get a dark print with puire white gills which would characterize this species as safe to ingest...youd get a light tan/cinamon or light green print which is only useful if you really care about Id'ing an inactive species (I highly doubt you care) THis is a pretty unprofessional job to whomever sold you these---


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