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the orange barrel mushroom stump
    #5048752 - 12/11/05 03:48 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

forgive me if this shouldnt be in the advanced portion of this forum.
its pretty advanced as far as im concerned.
id like some help with this idea. its gonna happen so lets be positive in the feedback.

ive aquired a big round orange water cooler like the ones they have on the work crew trucks. its insulated, it has a breather hole on top, its got a drain spout, its currently filled with bleach water.

when i first saw this thing i saw a huge half pint mason jar.
back in my brf days i was experimenting with all kindsa silly stuff. one of my experiments was sterilized straw in jars. it worked, it worked very well as a spawn even.

do you see what im gettin at?

my plan is already in the works. ive got a lot of straw cut into about 3 inch lengths with a few longer ones being leeched. ive got some leeched, dried, infused with blood meal horse poop. ive also got some pretty big fresh cubensis that will open their caps any day.

im gonna create a spore mass slurry in the orange barrel. then when its ready im gonna take the pasturized straw, pasturized poop, some vermiculite for luck and im gonna struff the orange barrel until i can fit no more in it. when it is stuffed ill open the drain spout to let any excess liquid out.

hopefully this will colonize. if it does colonize i plan on birthing it like a cake only it will be a stump.

any advice from the gurus?

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    #5049006 - 12/11/05 04:53 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: the orange barrel mushroom stump [Re: aaaa]
    #5049038 - 12/11/05 05:03 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

1)i slacked off in the past few weeks, my spawn reserve is low and i need it for stuff that i know works. 2)all this talk about skipping the grain is coinciding with some other experiments Ive been doing along the same lines. this is the big one. 3)Ive always wanted to do a spore mass slurry.

i don't have much peptone left and Ive got no credit card to get more. is there anywhere in this process that peptone would benefit most?


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Re: the orange barrel mushroom stump [Re: X24]
    #5049384 - 12/11/05 06:42 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

It's almost impossible to spawn straw with liquid. It rarely takes off, at least for me. You'll have to grow out some grain. Secondly, I'd worry about the core going anerobic on you. It needs more air than it will get. I'd recommend a laundry basket or straw log.
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Re: the orange barrel mushroom stump [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5049659 - 12/11/05 07:49 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I would be worried about contamination most.  Air flow second, and temperature third.

Of course, experimentation isn't about doing things the way you know they will work. :wink:

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Re: the orange barrel mushroom stump [Re: shymanta]
    #5051014 - 12/12/05 02:01 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

i was thinkin about the center rotting also. i was tryin to figure a way to pack it around the sides like a spin cycle yet still have the consisancy of a loose sponge in the middle.

as for straw not colonizing from liquid, im gonna rely on the fact i am packing the straw tight into the container hopefully trapping myc and spores from the slurry. also im hoping the peptones do something.


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Re: the orange barrel mushroom stump [Re: X24]
    #5051047 - 12/12/05 02:17 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

You could use a big card board tube or a pipe with a diameter of like 4" to make a "doughnut" shape. That would allow the substrate to be light and not packed.

Also, what I said previously about temp, I was thinking about how to warm it to the right degree while it is in an insulated cooler.

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Re: the orange barrel mushroom stump [Re: shymanta]
    #5051346 - 12/12/05 07:23 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Personally, I'd use the cooler for lemonade in the summer, and stuff the same amount of straw into a pillowcase or burlap bag. Incubate in a plastic bag with a few holes punched in for air exchange. Fruits will form right from the material covering the straw and tear off when you harvest without making holes or a mess.

An insulated cooler will cause the mycelium to overheat from thermogenesis. It's enough of a problem in non-insulated bins, but in a closed up cooler like that, there is noplace for the heat to go.
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Re: the orange barrel mushroom stump [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5053200 - 12/12/05 03:50 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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Personally, I'd use the cooler for lemonade in the summer, and stuff the same amount of straw into a pillowcase or burlap bag. Incubate in a plastic bag with a few holes punched in for air exchange. Fruits will form right from the material covering the straw and tear off when you harvest without making holes or a mess.

An insulated cooler will cause the mycelium to overheat from thermogenesis. It's enough of a problem in non-insulated bins, but in a closed up cooler like that, there is noplace for the heat to go.
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dammit your right.
but
ive come to believe that any problem can be engineered. its pretty cold in my lab. i have trouble keeping 72f right now. so maybe that will help.
any other suggestions on this matter?


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Re: the orange barrel mushroom stump [Re: X24]
    #5071219 - 12/16/05 12:00 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

How about taking a section of pvc pipe about 2" by X" (the hiegth of the orange cooler) and cap it off. Then cap the top off, then drill a hole in the cap that is large enough for your air tubing that will be hooked to a sterilized/filtered airpump box/contraption. Then drill tiny holes along the length of the pipe essentially making a home-made air stone. Have this in the center of your substrate and drill a hole in the cooler lid to let the air tubing come out. Just leave enough slack to be able to have the lid off. You will be certain that it is working if you get air bubbles coming out of the spigot. This would ariate the entire colony from the center out. You could even go as far as making your air pump box water tight, then submerge it into an incubator and insulate your air line so that you're pumping warm air into the cake. I say do it, the worst that can happen is that you will end up with a colony that you have to transfer to an outside grow.

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