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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: zappaisgod]
#5052110 - 12/12/05 12:20 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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I like that. Mind if I use it? With proper citation of course.
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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: looner2]
#5052131 - 12/12/05 12:26 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Any time you want.
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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: zappaisgod]
#5052135 - 12/12/05 12:27 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fucking call it your own if you like.
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nakors_junk_bag
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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: zappaisgod]
#5052237 - 12/12/05 12:58 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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If the moralitly shouldn't be policed world wide, why then should here at home should we set laws restricting the rights and possessions of others. If crazy countries can have nukes, how come felons can't have guns here. The inconsistency the left shows is astounding. Quit fucking thinking, you have become so unhinged by your self righteous, smarter, more humanitarian than thou bullshit you can't even see the inconsistency in your ideologies. It is sickening.
fuck the spell checher. ficking grammar police.
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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: zappaisgod]
#5052251 - 12/12/05 01:02 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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*This is to no one in particular.
Any state who hopes to gain nuclear weapons should be able to do so. Like I said before, any state actor only want to continue surviving, and using (or even threatening to use) nuclear arms is a sure-fire way to make sure you do not survive. I still have not seen a good argument as to why Iran should not have nuclear power or weapons. The more nuclear parity the world has, the better MAD deterrence will work. As long as these weapons are in the hands of states and not in the hands of non-state actors, we'll be fine.
I would be much more worried about the left over weapons in the ex-Col War countries than Islamic states getting weapons. The weapons in these old Soviet bloc countries are not well-guarded, let along secure.
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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: Redstorm]
#5052277 - 12/12/05 01:10 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Red storm said: *This is to no one in particular.
Any state who hopes to gain nuclear weapons should be able to do so. Like I said before, any state actor only want to continue surviving, and using (or even threatening to use) nuclear arms is a sure-fire way to make sure you do not survive. I still have not seen a good argument as to why Iran should not have nuclear power or weapons. The more nuclear parity the world has, the better MAD deterrence will work. As long as these weapons are in the hands of states and not in the hands of non-state actors, we'll be fine.
I would be much more worried about the left over weapons in the ex-Col War countries than Islamic states getting weapons. The weapons in these old Soviet bloc countries are not well-guarded, let along secure.
I am amazed. You want to allow Iran to have nuclear weapons because they have some sort of "right" to have them? It is nice to know you care about Iran's ability to continue survival and play the global game of "Look what I got!!". I'm happy that you feel as though our safety is second to making sure Iran gets her fair share!
That doesn't even begin to describe the specific circumstances surrounding IRAN having nuclear weapons and the very high possibility they will proliferate these weapons to terrorist groups.
Please remove my saying from your signature. I must have been drunk when I said that. You disappoint me son.
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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: Redstorm]
#5052280 - 12/12/05 01:11 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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the thing about islmaic states with crazy bam bams is their dogged determination to convert all to allah, or kill and die trying.
72 virgins. all around twenty three years old. nice incentive, I be the perks are nice too.
other people who believed you got virgins when you wnet to heave, along with beer and one eternal fight. The vikings. They conquered northern Europe, crazy berserkers, use to soak their leahter pants in water put them on and run into battle on mushies. They were maniacs, the leather would start constricting because of the effects of the water, the bommies would start zooming and people would die. They invented the blood eagle, a horribly gruesome way to kill their lamed enemies. they would cut their backs open, break their ribs and pull them like wings, then grab each lung and set it on the corresponding rib cage. last pull the heart out and set it in it proper place between the lungs. while they were still living. goddamned motherfuckers and the things they do for their virgin pussy.
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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: looner2]
#5052305 - 12/12/05 01:16 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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That doesn't even begin to describe the specific circumstances surrounding IRAN having nuclear weapons and the very high possibility they will proliferate these weapons to terrorist groups.
What other than speculation and irrational paranoia leads you to believe that terrorists will get weapons from Iran? Also, why are we less safe if Iran has nukes. You have no proof or even any sort of evidence that Iran would be willing to use them on us.
Btw, the quote is staying.
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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: Redstorm]
#5052344 - 12/12/05 01:23 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah looner stop being a prick to redstorm, you looney bastard(lol), one the few people here, who despite different political views than mine is worthy of the title, genteel soul. Redstorm, stay nice please?
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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
#5052354 - 12/12/05 01:24 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anything for you, sweetheart.
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nakors_junk_bag
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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: Redstorm]
#5052369 - 12/12/05 01:27 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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you are a chick, right?
and call me blackheart.
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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: Redstorm]
#5052406 - 12/12/05 01:34 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Iran can have nukes...just not ICBM's.
Let the towel heads get technology from the 1960s.....maybee it will start a trend of them stoping wiping thier ass with thier bare hands....
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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: Redstorm]
#5052413 - 12/12/05 01:36 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: What other than speculation and irrational paranoia leads you to believe that terrorists will get weapons from Iran? Also, why are we less safe if Iran has nukes. You have no proof or even any sort of evidence that Iran would be willing to use them on us.
Good news. On Thursday, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, president of Iran, who recently called for wiping Israel off the map, moderated his position. In a spirit of statesmanlike compromise, he now wants Israel wiped off the map of the Middle East and wiped onto the map of Europe. "Some European countries insist on saying that Hitler killed millions of innocent Jews in furnaces," President Ahmadinejad told Iranian TV viewers. "Although we don't accept this claim, if we suppose it is true," he added sportingly, "if European countries claim that they have killed Jews in World War II," Mr. Ahmadinejad told Iranian TV, "why don't they provide the Zionist regime with a piece of Europe? Germany and Austria can provide the regime with two or three provinces for this regime to establish itself, and the issue will be resolved. You offer part of Europe and we will support it." Big of you. It's the perfect solution to the "Middle East peace process": out of sight, out of mind. And given that Mr. Ahmadinejad's out of his mind, we're already halfway there. So let's see: We have a Holocaust denier who wants to relocate an entire nation to another continent and he happens to be head of the world's newest nuclear state. (They're not 100 percent fully fledged operational, but happily for them they can drag out the pseudo-negotiations with the European Union until they are. And Washington certainly won't do anything, because after all if we're not 100 percent certain they've got weapons of mass destruction -- which we won't be until there's a big smoking crater live on CNN -- it would be just another Bushitlerburton lie to get us into another war for oil, right?) http://www.washingtontimes.com/commentary/20051211-092550-1912r.htm
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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: looner2]
#5052426 - 12/12/05 01:40 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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looner2 said:
Quote:
Red storm said: *This is to no one in particular.
Any state who hopes to gain nuclear weapons should be able to do so. Like I said before, any state actor only want to continue surviving, and using (or even threatening to use) nuclear arms is a sure-fire way to make sure you do not survive. I still have not seen a good argument as to why Iran should not have nuclear power or weapons. The more nuclear parity the world has, the better MAD deterrence will work. As long as these weapons are in the hands of states and not in the hands of non-state actors, we'll be fine.
I would be much more worried about the left over weapons in the ex-Col War countries than Islamic states getting weapons. The weapons in these old Soviet bloc countries are not well-guarded, let along secure.
I am amazed. You want to allow Iran to have nuclear weapons because they have some sort of "right" to have them? It is nice to know you care about Iran's ability to continue survival and play the global game of "Look what I got!!". I'm happy that you feel as though our safety is second to making sure Iran gets her fair share!
That doesn't even begin to describe the specific circumstances surrounding IRAN having nuclear weapons and the very high possibility they will proliferate these weapons to terrorist groups.
Please remove my saying from your signature. I must have been drunk when I said that. You disappoint me son.
Why doesn't Iran have a right to have them?!
Because YOU, the almighty American said so, sorry that won't cut it...
Isn't it hypocritical to say that you need YOUR nukes to have a MAD deterrent against Russia, yet Iran can't have them to defend themselves against Israel.
An intelligent person is able to see the situation as if they were impartial, and judge it based on reality, and not just follow like a little sheep following the team leader that they happen to be playing for at the moment...
If you lived in Iran right now, you'd be arguing the other side of the coin, because your opinion is based only on your own selfish greediness, at least Red storm can see 3 feet past his own self interest to come up with an argument the is somewhat logical to the situation...
The "you" in this case means - the general pro war American -, not YOU personally BTW, however I believe that you might fit into this category...
And also, WTF is wrong with Islamists all of a sudden?! I'm telling you, your country is leading you into a state of hatred and intolerance with their propaganda.
Karma has a BIG lesson coming for America if you guys don't wake up and start fighting back against your own evil leadership...
Look into "Project Northwoods" and tell me that the government doesn't concoct evil schemes to get people fired up to blindly follow whatever they want you too.
Look into the People for a New American Century and their "Rebuilding Americas Defenses" doctrine that basically lays out the EXACT scenario that you guys are following right now, like a blueprint...
That was written in 1992 and lays it all out, war in Iraq, war in Iran...
Listen to little chicken hawks like Wolfowitz telling his people that the doctrine of PNAC will never gain public support, barring "A new pearl Harbor"...
Instead of just following what Rush says today do the research, and see that you are being led by the nose...
Jeez, talk about disappointing...
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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: Prajna]
#5052554 - 12/12/05 02:09 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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canada how dare you speak to me of democracy!!!! its an outrage and I won't have it any longer!!!! j/k The cold simple truth is when people are armed equally tempers flare and reason ceases to make an appearance. As soon as these two countures start thinking they are a match for eachother the part of submission is discarded for the part of, I am no longer yo bitch, put your fucking hands up and lets dance, bia. boom boom blow, they are fighting becuase one didn't have the clear and obvious advantage. All through out the natural world you see examples of he who barks loudest has his way. Only when there is no clear advantage or a particular combatant is exceptionally horny does it ever come to blows. Parity would lead itself and us straight to bloody hell, hey canada need i remind if there is a fall out here you aint very far away. Winds of time ever shifting.
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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
#5052607 - 12/12/05 02:19 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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nakors_junk_bag said: canada how dare you speak to me of democracy!!!! its an outrage and I won't have it any longer!!!! j/k The cold simple truth is when people are armed equally tempers flare and reason ceases to make an appearance. As soon as these two countures start thinking they are a match for eachother the part of submission is discarded for the part of, I am no longer yo bitch, put your fucking hands up and lets dance, bia. boom boom blow, they are fighting becuase one didn't have the clear and obvious advantage. All through out the natural world you see examples of he who barks loudest has his way. Only when there is no clear advantage or a particular combatant is exceptionally horny does it ever come to blows. Parity would lead itself and us straight to bloody hell, hey canada need i remind if there is a fall out here you aint very far away. Winds of time ever shifting.
First of all, neither one of our countries are a democracy...
Mine is a constitutional monarchy... Yours is a constitutional Republic...
We do not vote on everything, we vote on Representatives...
Second of all, I can barely understand your post on even the most basic level, I guess the only response I really have is... huh?
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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: Prajna]
#5052624 - 12/12/05 02:23 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Okay I just read it again and I think I get the gist, so your saying that it's okay to fight and kill each other because people are savage and have been fighting for a long time?...
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nakors_junk_bag
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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: Prajna]
#5052675 - 12/12/05 02:31 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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no that is not what I am saying. You have grossly misunderstood my post. Granted my grammar leaves much to be desired. I will clean it up and re post it.
Here is the edited version
canada how dare you speak to me of democracy!!!! its an outrage and I won't have it any longer!!!! j/k. The cold simple truth is when people are armed equally tempers flare and reason ceases to make an appearance. As soon as these two countries start thinking they are a match for eachother the part of submission is discarded for the part of, I am no longer yo bitch, put your fucking hands up and lets dance, bia. boom boom blow. they are fighting becuase one didn't have the clear and obvious advantage. All through out the natural world you see examples of he who barks loudest has his way. Only when there is no clear advantage or a particular combatant is exceptionally horny does it ever come to blows. Parity would lead itself and us straight to bloody hell, hey canada need i remind, if there is a fall out here you aint very far away. Winds of time ever shifting.
By the way, I see nothing wrong grammatically with my statement.
I know full well what are government is. I simplt don't know hwat your is, 50 of the last sixty years your's has seemed a leftist dictatorship, the only thing changing is the face.
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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
#5052712 - 12/12/05 02:39 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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prajan your arguments sound a lot like an impetulent little child asking his mommy why he couldn't have icecream for dinner, "why cause you say so, who are you." daddy steps in and says, "I am your father, you won't talk to me or your mom that way, you simply are not having icecream for dinner. It will spoil your apetite and the nourishment you need to grow strong and healthy are not found in icecream." "You want to be healthy right? Good stop building nukes or we will stop you, undertstood?"
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Re: Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran..... [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
#5052719 - 12/12/05 02:41 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thats good stuff lonestar, I should find things like this but for some reason I don't ever even think to look. From hence point on I will, i have been inspired. grazzi
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