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OfflineFireside
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Seedling lighting
    #4982447 - 11/26/05 08:29 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

For growing seedlings indoors over the winter, is it harmful to have the lights on 24/7 or do I need a timer.

Also, if I am growing things like chamomile, lavender, wormwood, san pedro, and yopo in the same room, am I going to have humidity conflictions? Do I need to split up the dry and humid plants into a different room because I'm not sure if I can do that.

Also, will florescent lights work well or do I need an HPS.
Keep in mind MOST of this stuff is getting put outside ion April but some of it will be full time indoor plants.
For the full time indoor plants will it hurt them to have lights on 24/7?


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Re: Seedling lighting [Re: Fireside]
    #4982567 - 11/26/05 09:34 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

24hr w light most plants can handle but its far from optimal. Any light that provides full colorspectrum and at least 10000lumen is good enough but hps 400w (55000lumen) can be too much for many plants.


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Re: Seedling lighting [Re: Fireside]
    #4985797 - 11/27/05 09:21 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Fireside said:
For growing seedlings indoors over the winter, is it harmful to have the lights on 24/7 or do I need a timer.





most plants need some rest period, a 16/8 light schedule would be more suited
for the plants you want to grow, if you need a timer, or help wiring up lights,
just let me know

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Also, if I am growing things like chamomile, lavender, wormwood, san pedro, and yopo in the same room, am I going to have humidity conflictions? Do I need to split up the dry and humid plants into a different room because I'm not sure if I can do that.




you can get by with having them all in the same room, the lavender likes dry
soil and doesnt mind low humidity, much like the pedro, the chamomile likes
moist but not wet soil, you can add a mulch to your pots to help retain moisture
the yopo also likes dryer soil, so something with good drainage is a must

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Also, will florescent lights work well or do I need an HPS.





use several compact fluorescents, and you should do fine
I like to use these types of fixtures and place them in the 4 corners of the
area I'm growing in, they provide plenty of light with the CFL bulbs
they come in configurations for 3 to 7 bulbs and usualy run pretty cheap
the 3 light fixture is about $8 the 7 light one is about $16




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Re: Seedling lighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4986018 - 11/27/05 11:33 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I think I'm going to have a whole room to use and be able to put a timer on it and not have to worry about anybody fucking with it.

I may need some help once I get all my gear up and running...
My main concern is getting my seeds to sprout and then to not fuck them up too bad with too much light or water, etc.
I've had enough experience to get them a second set of leaves but after that I'm gonna be hog down on this forum bugging yall for advice.

I think I am going to use a couple normal lights, a couple florescent, and maybe one small HPS just to get the full spectrum of sunlight in the room.

A small fan and temp/humidity gage in the room and I should be good to go right?


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Re: Seedling lighting [Re: Fireside]
    #4986913 - 11/27/05 04:18 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, humidity isnt so much of an issue for what you're growing


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Re: Seedling lighting [Re: Fireside]
    #4987181 - 11/27/05 06:02 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Cheap set of fluorescent lights will do the trick for seedlings.

I ran 2 sets of 4 footers for my cacti & wormwood seeds.


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Re: Seedling lighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4987184 - 11/27/05 06:03 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
yeah, humidity isnt so much of an issue for what you're growing




This is true when you have mature plants but not so when your starting seedlings. I would suggest a humidity tent or dome for the seedlings.


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Re: Seedling lighting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5035942 - 12/08/05 08:16 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Ok guys I need to upgrade to HPS or metal halide.
I am looking to drop about 60 or 70 bucks.
I want my stuff to grow faster than it is :0
What are mny best options?
Will just using some high powered flouros work better. In otherwords should I just buy some higher flourous or get both higher wat flouras AND a new HPS or halide light.


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Re: Seedling lighting [Re: Fireside]
    #5036103 - 12/08/05 08:48 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

heres a super-cheap 250w HPS setup: http://www.insidesun.com/index.php/action/item/id/747/


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Re: Seedling lighting [Re: Fireside]
    #5036848 - 12/08/05 11:16 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Fireside said:
I think I am going to use a couple normal lights, a couple florescent, and maybe one small HPS just to get the full spectrum of sunlight in the room.




If you are talking about using incandescent lights, dont. You would just be wasting your electric.


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Re: Seedling lighting [Re: Taskenti]
    #5038672 - 12/09/05 10:01 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

High powered flouros are crap what you want is a 250 watt MH or HPS. Once you have semi-mature plants ( not seedlings ) you want to grow them under 1 light & a 250 watt HPS or MH is what you want to use.

If you have never used or seen in person a high powered HPS-MH light you will be shocked as to just how much light these things put out. A 400 watt HPS-MH light is seriously blinding to the eyes. These lights do put out a large amount of heat keep that in mind but the 250 watt HPS-MH is not as bad for heat at the 400 watter.

I think you will be very satisfied if you got a 250 for your grow.


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