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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: mediman0078]
    #5038095 - 12/09/05 07:53 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

A run away train??


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #5038104 - 12/09/05 07:55 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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HELLA_TIGHT said:
Just wait a month to sign up so you'll be clean for sure.




This is what I'm thinking...  :thumbup:

Well, I guess I'll smoke the rest of my bud today, anyone want to :bongload:?


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #5038105 - 12/09/05 07:56 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

No magic Hogwarts train... duh... that's the one that hits you when you leave your house... I thought everyone knew that.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: mediman0078]
    #5038113 - 12/09/05 07:57 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Now I'm thinking wait until spring. I don't know about basic in the dead of winter... I'm not looking to become an arctic commando.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: rogue_pixie]
    #5038118 - 12/09/05 07:58 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I was in the Marine Corps, they test you every chance you can get. If you pop on a drug test your screwed. Period. Sometimes that doesn't mean just getting kicked out, or everyone would do it to get kicked out. When i was there no one wanted to be there.
Don't join the millitary unless you want to kill people, because when you get down to it, thats ALL your there for.
I had some fun in the Marines, but overall it was a giant waist of my time, i was miserable alot; cold, hot, hungry. They will use you up till there is nothing left to give. Then if you do retire in the millitary, all you really have is some storys, and your prime waisted walking threw the mountains or desert. You'll come back to the states with no girl, no real job, unless you do something like computers and such, but no one really joins the millitary to do that.
I was a engineer, i blew stuff up mostly. When i got out and came back home, there was no real job for me, and i waisted all that time I could have been in collage. Im 25 years old and just starting collage. Its a pain in the arse.
Yea there are alot of acceptions to the things you do, but when it comes down to it, most people join because they have nothing better to do. Don't be like that. If you do go, just accept your going to basically be blowing alot of time you could be in school. Ya you might have some crazy storys if you get out, if you survive. But all in all, your just taking shit all the time and that is never cool. But then i was in the marine corps, and they are crazy. To tell you the truth, even tho i just ranted this long and put the millitary down, which it justly deserves. Id do it again if i could. lol

Plan on never doing drugs again, as long as your in the millitary. They will catch every single person that does it, even if you think you are safe to. Alot of my buddy's in the corps got busted, and you dont want that type of a discharge belive me.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: mediman0078]
    #5038124 - 12/09/05 08:02 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Make SURE when you walk out of that recruiters office you have IN WRITING what MOS or Rate you want to be and a promise on that paper saying your going to that school... DO NOT ENTER THE SERVICE UNDESIGNATED!!!! If they can't promise to send you to that school right after boot camp, WAIT. Don't bargain, say EXACTLY what you want to do and so long as you're qualified in your ASVAB scores, do not accept any kind of "shifting" or undesignated lead-in schools. You will get fucked bad if you do. Decide what you want to do BEFORE YOU WALK IN THAT OFFICE. The recruiter will try to railroad you into whatever MOS or Rate that branch is lacking personnel in.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: Mcdoopy]
    #5038128 - 12/09/05 08:03 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

If you smoke now, wait 2 months to go to them at the least. You don't want to be in boot camp 2 or 3 weeks in and get busted out. After the first 3 weeks its not so insaine, and you would have been threw hell for nothing.


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My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: mediman0078]
    #5038131 - 12/09/05 08:04 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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mediman0078 said:
Make SURE when you walk out of that recruiters office you have IN WRITING what MOS or Rate you want to be and a promise on that paper saying your going to that school... DO NOT ENTER THE SERVICE UNDESIGNATED!!!!



Sound advice, thanks :wink:

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LordOfChaos said:
If you smoke now, wait 2 months to go to them at the least. You don't want to be in boot camp 2 or 3 weeks in and get busted out. After the first 3 weeks its not so insaine, and you would have been threw hell for nothing.



I'll give it a month or two...


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: mediman0078]
    #5038135 - 12/09/05 08:05 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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mediman0078 said:
Make SURE when you walk out of that recruiters office you have IN WRITING what MOS or Rate you want to be and a promise on that paper saying your going to that school... DO NOT ENTER THE SERVICE UNDESIGNATED!!!! If they can't promise to send you to that school right after boot camp, WAIT. Don't bargain, say EXACTLY what you want to do and so long as you're qualified in your ASVAB scores, do not accept any kind of "shifting" or undesignated lead-in schools. You will get fucked bad if you do. Decide what you want to do BEFORE YOU WALK IN THAT OFFICE. The recruiter will try to railroad you into whatever MOS or Rate that branch is lacking personnel in.



lol, i was promised 20k after completing engineering school. lol I was such a dumbass to belive the recruiter! I feel sad now.


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My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: Kada]
    #5038140 - 12/09/05 08:06 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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LordOfChaos said:
Quote:

mediman0078 said:
Make SURE when you walk out of that recruiters office you have IN WRITING what MOS or Rate you want to be and a promise on that paper saying your going to that school... DO NOT ENTER THE SERVICE UNDESIGNATED!!!! If they can't promise to send you to that school right after boot camp, WAIT. Don't bargain, say EXACTLY what you want to do and so long as you're qualified in your ASVAB scores, do not accept any kind of "shifting" or undesignated lead-in schools. You will get fucked bad if you do. Decide what you want to do BEFORE YOU WALK IN THAT OFFICE. The recruiter will try to railroad you into whatever MOS or Rate that branch is lacking personnel in.



lol, i was promised 20k after completing engineering school. lol I was such a dumbass to belive the recruiter! I feel sad now.




u mean a 20k bonus?


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: mediman0078]
    #5038145 - 12/09/05 08:09 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Yup, the Big Chicken Dinner (BCD, Bad Conduct Discharge) or at BEST a General discharge if your command really likes you. You basically have to work jobs that don't check into your background for a few years before you can fill out an employment app without having to place your service record on the table... and most employers that see you had a BCD or General will look to see why. It's very sucky.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: Mcdoopy]
    #5038150 - 12/09/05 08:09 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Yea, but it was a bunch of bull. I think the army does do that, but i found out the marines dont. Get everything in writting, dont accept, "its standard". Its a bunch of crap they tell you, unless there is a contract that is specific and states you WILL get that money on completion of what your doing, they wont give it to you and call you a idiot for belive a recruiter. Recruiters in my opinion, are the lowest form of life.


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"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

Live long and prosper.



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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: Kada]
    #5038160 - 12/09/05 08:12 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Yea, they dangle those "bonuses" out there sometimes... it's a load of BS... the only time oyou get those is if you're in a specialty that is in demand and your at the end of your first 4 year tour... THEN they'll pay you a bonus if you re-up. But you have to pay lump sum taxes on it, and that sux ballz.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: mediman0078]
    #5038166 - 12/09/05 08:15 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I have train tracks going through my house.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: Kada]
    #5038215 - 12/09/05 08:27 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Being a veteran of the US Marine Corps, here is my advice to you.

Don't do drugs and be in the military.

If you think that you will be tempted to do drugs while your enlisted, don't join.

Not only will you have to clean when you go in, but WHILE you are in.

I have seen with my own eyes, guys get drunk, toke some weed, only to have a drug test in the next couple of days. They end out with a DD214 (discharge papers) that says "Other then Honorable"
You just fucked yourself for future employment for the rest of your life. Every potential employer could find out how you got kicked out of the military.

One time in my platoon, they took everyone out of the barracks, and gave everyone a drug test. The very next day, they had a nother drug test, which turned out to be the real one. The military drug test administrators caught the people who thought that they were safe for another month...it worked, 10 pops.....

The miltary drug test is state of the art, goldenseal and all that shit, normally does not fool it...

Bottom line: You signed the fucking contract. If you want to do drugs, fine, but don't sign a contract stating that you wont.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5038316 - 12/09/05 08:48 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Like I said, not worried about when I get in. It's the getting in part that worries me... I'll stay clean for a month or two then join...


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5038340 - 12/09/05 08:53 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

OTH is the standard discharge for popping... i know people at my command who had it adjusted to a general and down to a BCD.

On the money though, they're sneaky with the drug testing... one of the ships i was on tested on monday waited through the week tested on next monday, then would give ANOTHER one tuesday or wendsday for people who'd go out and use shit that clears out quick.... there were 36 people at the last whizz quiz I had before I got out that popped for E and 2 for LSD and a couple for coke because of how they schedualed the tests. They know how to catch ya....

Getting in is no big deal... you know when the piss test is.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: mediman0078]
    #5038426 - 12/09/05 09:11 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

i have to disagree with LordofChaos on a few points. First of all, the military isn't just about killing people. Yes, that is their most notorious objective, but there is plenty of stuff to do in between the slaughter of people in far away lands.

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unless you do something like computers and such, but no one really joins the millitary to do that.




i was a computer programmer for the military. i assure you, I was not the only one either. Just because the marine corps didn't offer many different career fields outside of infantry or combat, does not mean the military as a whole has nothing else to offer.

Shit, if I would have stayed in I would have all kinds of certifications: cisco, microsoft, etc.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: Mcdoopy]
    #5038469 - 12/09/05 09:19 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

You don't want to do bootcamp in the summer. If you're joining the USMC you don't want to end up in NC or fucking San Diego in the middle of the summer.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: Adom]
    #5038487 - 12/09/05 09:23 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Best time to go in is early spring... then went you start sweating your ass off the weather will cool you down a bit, but not too much. :laugh:


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