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OfflineMcdoopy
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Military and drugs.
    #5037960 - 12/09/05 06:36 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Obviously they don't mix. I'm thinking about enlisting but I'm wondering if they do a drug test? Does anybody have any light to shed on the matter? I smoked weed yesterday and did coke about 3 weeks ago... If they don't test then I'm golden, if they do then I'll wait before I go see a recruiter...


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: Mcdoopy]
    #5037976 - 12/09/05 06:41 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I think that if this is what it really comes down to, you need to seriously evaluate what you want in your future.

The military will take good care of you. They will feed you, give you a house to live in, $45,000 a year, full medical and dental....but if you give them one single indication that you're on drugs, they still strip away every single right and freedom that you hold close.

And they can do it...because YOU signed the contract.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: Mcdoopy]
    #5037981 - 12/09/05 06:46 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Depends on what branch. I told my Army recruiter that I smoked weed everyday prior for over 2-3 years when I walked through the doors at 18. He said no problem, piss in this cup and let's see how hot you are. He got me clean within 6 days by a simple exercise and water regimen, stick to what they say for cleaning out because it works.

Don't try to walk in the Air Force and do the same, my brother said they'll turn you away due to their over abundance of people right now, they're enlisting 4 soldiers to every one that leaves in the AF.

Couldn't say one way or the other for Marines or Navy.... don't know why anyone would want to go those routes anyway. If you're looking to be hardcore then go Marines special forces... or Army Airborne Ranger or something.

While in the Army I found a loop hole for weed that allowed me to smoke legally basically for over a year. But since then I think they've improved that area. Used to be able to go admit yourself to group therapy for drug abuse and as long as you were attending meetings then they couldn't bust you on a piss test for THC. Coke and things are a lot different, zero tolerance in that area.

Hope that helps a tad.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: CherryBom]
    #5037982 - 12/09/05 06:46 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I have no problem with quitting everything cold turkey. I do coke once in a GREAT while. My drug of choice last few years has been weed. I've gone years without smoking it before. I agree they do take care of you, and can strip it all away just as quickly. I had a friend get caught doing bumps on a ship in the NAVY and he was quickly discharged. I'm not worried about staying in and staying clean once I am in. I'm worried about any drug test they may give me beforehand. If they do test than I'll stay clean for a month or so, then go to a recruiter...

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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: popnganja420]
    #5037989 - 12/09/05 06:50 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

They don't give no $45,000 a year.... what branch did you sign up for? I started off as E1 at $888/mo. That's less than $12,000 a year. Not even most officers make that much!

After a few raises and promotion in rank I was only making $1200 a month and even that's only at like E3 or E4.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: popnganja420]
    #5037997 - 12/09/05 06:54 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

You can always call the recruiter on the phone and not give details and tell them you want to join but you've been smoking in the past. You'd like to clean up and join and you want to know if you can come down and talk to him now and get on a schedule to join, or you can wait. They have delayed entry where you sign up now, and then leave in a few weeks or whatever when you are clean. That's how I did it, signed my name to the paper even though I was hot that day. Left 2 1/2 weeks later after I was clean and in some kind of shape.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: Mcdoopy]
    #5038014 - 12/09/05 07:06 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I sure as fuck wouldn't want some stoner to watch my back in the thick.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: Scarfmeister]
    #5038025 - 12/09/05 07:10 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Obviously you were never in the Shit.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: Mcdoopy]
    #5038028 - 12/09/05 07:11 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

The navy and the marines will drug test you before you leave for basic training. If you pop, you have a very slim chance of ever making it in. Some recruiters will help you get clean, but they're all different. Both the navy and marines have zero tolerance policies and random drug testing. One pop, any drug - and you're out.

The army drug tests you upon completion of basic training (what a joke). They may ask about drugs, but if you say no, you're safe. Just don't do any drugs while in basic... heh. The army by far is the most lenient on drug offenses.

As for the air force and coast guard... who cares?

Ask about drug testing before you sign any paperwork. That way, if you're recruiter turns out to be a hard ass, you can always go to another station.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: popnganja420]
    #5038033 - 12/09/05 07:13 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

popnganja420 said:
They don't give no $45,000 a year.... what branch did you sign up for? 




I didn't sign that contract.  No way would I ever do that.  My fiancee is the Canadian military, we live on base in Northern Ontario.

He makes a little bit more then that quote and he hasn't been in very long.  Less then 5 years.  I have a lot of problems with the military....but compared to the US military, our boys have got it made.  :heart:

For what those guys do and go through...it's worth a comfortable life.  Anything less is inhumane.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: Mcdoopy]
    #5038036 - 12/09/05 07:15 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Just wait a month to sign up so you'll be clean for sure.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #5038037 - 12/09/05 07:15 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

This stoner would watch your back better than any average joe off the street my friend. Just because one is a stoner does not mean he has weak senses on the battle field. Shit ain't no joke... and I'd rather have a stoner than a drunk any day. Less shakes, more accuracy, etc. You'd be surprised how many stoners there are in the military... doesn't make them bad people because most are so bad ass I couldn't dream of keeping up with them in an 8 mile run. I bet my drill sergeant from basic couldn't keep up with some of them.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: popnganja420]
    #5038043 - 12/09/05 07:20 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think the stoner part has anything to do with it... I ran into a Colonel from Desert Storm that was AWOL... and he wasn't a stoner. Now that's pathetic. Was gone for 6 years and I ran into him during my out processing.

Sorry CherryBom, thought you meant US military... I'd join the Canadian army in a minute after I've seen what I've seen. Too many pathetic games in our military. Unless you are officer material... you'll make around $1500-1700 USD per month after 4-5 years. That's going off of personal experience with the Army and Air Force. Also depends on the job, some promote faster.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #5038046 - 12/09/05 07:21 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

HELLA_TIGHT said:
Obviously you were never in the Shit.




I went to Macedonia with IFOR after my army service.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: Scarfmeister]
    #5038052 - 12/09/05 07:24 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Did you kick any ass?


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: popnganja420]
    #5038053 - 12/09/05 07:25 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Navy has ZERO TOLERANCE for ANYTHING... I know from personal experience. They also use a much more sensitive drug test called an RIA which is very difficult to beat with the old "ill just drink a ton of water" trick. It's acurrate down to single nanograms. 15ng on most drugs and your masted and kicked out on the spot, but not before they put you on restriction (which is basically prison) for at least 45 days. Then they'll discharge you without so much as a bus ticket to get home. I know a lot of people who did short acting drugs in the Navy like lsd and shrooms, but if you smoke pot within a month of of a random drug sweep, you're fucked.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: Scarfmeister]
    #5038061 - 12/09/05 07:28 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

yes, they test. you will probably be tested at the MEPS center before you even get shipped off to boot camp. And then you will be tested in boot camp again, and then probably in tech training, and then randomly from there on out.

if you do drugs in the military, you may not get caught right away, but you will eventually.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: Mcdoopy]
    #5038070 - 12/09/05 07:31 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Don't do it!!!!!!
You might die!!!!!!


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: rogue_pixie]
    #5038080 - 12/09/05 07:44 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

And you might leave the house and get hit by a train..... most soldiers are support and never see any kind of actual warfare. I did only because I was dumb enough to volunteer to go into a war zone thinking it'd be exciting. It wasn't exciting, it was scary as hell.

It's a good option if you think you can stay away from pot and only do things like LSD or Shrooms since they're out of your system very quickly. Then if you get a drug sweep when you go into work you can always go AWOL for a couple days and come back saying you had some kind of family emergency... they won't believe that really, and you'll still get tested, but with those 2 drugs you'd be clean by then.... better to get written up for taking a couple days off than popping positive.


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Re: Military and drugs. [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #5038086 - 12/09/05 07:50 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

HELLA_TIGHT said:
Did you kick any ass?




no  :frown:


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