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Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?!
#5010436 - 12/03/05 01:20 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Alright, i'm still sort of faded and afterglowing, but i have a lot to say here, so i'm sorry if this doesnt make much sense. my thoughts are still scattered. first ill talk about my trip, then a VERY weird situation that happened that i really want help explaining.. it seriously defies my common knowledge and questions what i know, and its actually very scary (in a good way) to me. i'll explain that, and then i have several questions if you wouldnt mind answering.
alright... so i came across white perferorated blotters. They were very tiny (smaller htan i expected).. smaller than my pinkey nail haha. anyway, i ate 2 hits, and my friend had 1 (so he could be my semi-tripping trip sitter). the tips were very ever-so-slightly metallic tasting (not bitter, so i knew it wasnt an RC). i just put them on my tongue until they dissolved. After a few hours of walking around outside, and not feeling too much (just euphoric, and VERY VERY on edge... like.. i coulndt sit still, i was hot and cold, queesy a little bit, extremem pressure on my neck). We went back to my room and chilled a bit. there werent really any visuals.. just some distorted thoughts and feeling weird.. like a coming up, and definitely not tripping. so, we each decided to take another one (it had been about 1.5 hours at this point since the first drop). so then, i had 3 in me, and he had 2.
at this point, we stayed in my room for about 3 hours and thats when stuff got a little wierd. the flag in my room definitely looked like it was flowing int he wind.. words on my computer would melt in little bubbles, and made htem hard to read. there were very slight tracers. the visualizations werent even as much as on 2g of shrooms though i dont think maybe about the same.. maybe little more. stuff was moivng though, but it definitely wasn't "2-d" and cartoony like i have heard it described.
either way.. in my room wei listened to music and played with a glowstick i had. at this point i think i peaked. at one particular point (we had the lights off) i was lying on the ground and my friend was waving the glowstick right in front of my eyes to music. this car drove by the window and cast light on the cieling.. for about 20 seconds i completely lost touch with reality... i felt lik ei was sucked in, and i didnt know who this entity was waving a glowstick. everythingw as a complete different reality. like watching a movie. it was awesome, but thats about the 'deepest' thing i had happen to me.
anyway, then we went to starbucks, talked a little lot. then went back to my dorm, we each ate a xanax, then we smoked a little bit and went to bed.
ok... now the weird siutaiton that happened, and then my questions.. (sorry agian this is so long ) ok... this seirously FUCKED with my head hardcore... after eating the third hit, my friend was like 'lets listen to strawberry fields by the beetles." i had never heard the song before (yeah, shut up). so, we downloaded it and played it. ok.. i was lying on the ground and my friend was listneing to the song. he was like "dude... this part of the song is way slower than nomral. this must be a bad version."
so, i came and listened to the song. the part where he says "nothing is real........" and his voice gets all low. that part was SOOOO low.. it was like practically like my computer got all choppy and slowed down. and then he picks up and says "but its nothing to get hung about.." and that was so high. we listened to it over and over.. and the song definitely played normal speed.. and when he would say 'nothing is real' his words would then sloooowwwww doooowwwnnnnnn and then they would pick back up after it to normal speed. it was like someone took a record and slwoed it down with their fingers literally 5x slower.
we listened to other normal songs and they were normal. so in the mroning i listened to the song again.. and his voice DIDNT slow down. the same mp3 was completely back to normal. i know it could be 'placebo' effect or something.. but you dont understand. it was slowed down way more than placebo effect should have granted....
im so confused about that .. it was definitely fucking weird.
now for some questions..
1. i had very tight jaw clenching, and my jaw actually clicked out of place one time .. also, my back was very sore in the very bottom of my spine, like right above my tail bone. so no matter which way i lay when i was coming down i couldnt feel comfortable. is this normal, and is there any way to help it?
2. in all honesty, how hard do you think i was tripping? (based on what ive said). personally i dont think i tripped that hard, i had hardly any visuals except some, but defniitely nothing like a cartoon with 2-d shit jumping around and very bright colors and stuff. at the same time though my thoughts were incredibly scrambled... i felt very uneasy the whole time too, except for a small part in my room (i think that was in my mild peak). it mainly felt like coming up for a long ass time... very uncomfortable, no visuals, but crazy thoughts.. and then a small peak of being comfortable, seeing traces and weird thoughts, then coming down and being unfomrfortable again.
3. if i took this same acid, how many hits would you guess id have to take to have a full blow psychedlic experience.. such as awesome visuals like cartoons and stuff?
4. i feel now how acid is very different htant shrooms. it felt very mechanical, organized, structured, and ic ould feel my thoughts working like an infinite fractal. shrooms is more like a bombardment of senses and youre just like 'whoa... " .. maybe its because i wasnt tripping thathard though. because acid seemed like more of a 'thinking' drug to me.. i can see how it changes your thought processes a lot more than shrooms. is this true? after a 5g shorom trips.. it was all fun and games but i didnt feel that different afterwards. even after this mild acid trip though.. i can feel my thoughts slightly different right now... anyone have nayhting to say on this? i feel nervous about taking more.. because i see how fragile my mind is with acid. like something bad could permafuck my brain.
anyway.. sorry ggain about all that tahnks for reading if you got this far.
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Edited by Limelight (12/03/05 01:27 PM)
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Re: Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?! [Re: Limelight]
#5010475 - 12/03/05 01:30 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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ps. i would like to add shit was definitely indeed different. i DO think i was tripping.. i just have nothing to compare it to. like.. there were points in starbucks when i went up to get water. and in my head i was like "um.. how do i get water?" and my body would be standing in line.. and my head would be like "um, your in line now.. i guess you should wait here." by the time i got done thinking that, my body already had a cup of water in my hand... and id think 'how the hell did i get this? well i guess i should sit down now" and by them im already sitting down. its like my thoughts couldnt keep up and stuff just pulled me in certain directions.
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Edited by Limelight (12/03/05 01:33 PM)
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Re: Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?! [Re: Limelight]
#5010481 - 12/03/05 01:32 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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as a last thought... (sorry .. grr.. so much to say and think about)..
right now im having a very hard time going and making normal converation. it seems like i go off on so many tangents. as you can see from this post.. its defniitely not that orgnaized, and could beb made a lot shoerter and to the point. will this feeling go away eventually? i dont like it.. i cant talk to anyone without feeling stupid.
i know hardcore acid heads ive talked to go off on tangents that never end.. they can talk four hours on end and never answer your question. i feel like this is a long term effect, and if i do this a lot, i get the impression this 'effect' wont go away and will be somewhat permanent. ir eally hope that doesnt happen though
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Re: Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?! [Re: Limelight]
#5010513 - 12/03/05 01:41 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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"i DO think i was tripping.."
i dont get it? so were you tripping or not? there shouldnt really be any hesitation when asking yourself that
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Re: Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?! [Re: nonick]
#5010520 - 12/03/05 01:43 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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nonick said: "i DO think i was tripping.."
i dont get it? so were you tripping or not? there shouldnt really be any hesitation when asking yourself that
i really dont know
i definitely was.. but im guessing it was like a levle 1 trip. shit was definitely different. thats why im so confused. my thoughts were very different, yet there were no visuals. i thought its the opposite of what acid is supposed to be. less head fuck and al lvisuals
i guess thats sort of why im conflicted in my head
its like at some points i thought "hmm.. im not tripping hard at all.. this is like a constant come up." and other points i would think "damni this is really crazy" and it would just go back and forth.. so i guess it had both interspursed.
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Edited by Limelight (12/03/05 01:44 PM)
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Re: Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?! [Re: Limelight]
#5010524 - 12/03/05 01:44 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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ive done acid a lot of times and i dont feel that i go off into tangents more because ive done acid. there are a lot of stereotypes that get put on acid heads and i think people believe these false myths and since they believe this stuff to really happen if you use acid they just see what they want to see in reguards to acid head freinds "going off on tangents". perhaps if you used it weeks on end u might get a bit spacy but nothing that wont go away with discontinued use.
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Re: Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?! [Re: LedHead]
#5010533 - 12/03/05 01:46 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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alright thats good to know.
i just say that because ive talked directly to this older guy who took it like 500 hundred times as a kid. he displayed characteristics that i have now.. just going on and on and on and never really konwing what youre saying. i experienced that first hand because i heard him talk for 4 hours non stop about random stuff, and never really getting to the point at all. im just guessing it was from the acid, because thats how i feel right now, just not nearly on such a greater level.
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Re: Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?! [Re: Limelight]
#5010537 - 12/03/05 01:47 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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i just cant get to the fucking point, and my head is so scrambled and unorganized right now.
so yeah.. sorry this post is so fucking long and dumb. but thats why
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Edited by Limelight (12/03/05 01:48 PM)
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Re: Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?! [Re: Limelight]
#5010542 - 12/03/05 01:49 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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When I was on acid, there were heavy parts where things got very weird, and then more mellow parts where it felt like I wasn't even altered.
I had two hits of white unperfed blotter.
I didn't have many visuals on my acid trip. I'm more a shroomer...visuals whenever I shroom are always crazy intense.
Acid was DEFINATELY a "thinking" drug for me. I couldn't stop.
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Re: Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?! [Re: MOTH]
#5010551 - 12/03/05 01:52 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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plus man you just tripped yeserday, your thoughts will clear up in a day or so. your just experiencing after effects from the trip. peace
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Re: Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?! [Re: LedHead]
#5010554 - 12/03/05 01:52 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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thanks 8-)
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Re: Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?! [Re: Limelight]
#5010562 - 12/03/05 01:54 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Limelight said: i just cant get to the fucking point, and my head is so scrambled and unorganized right now.
so yeah.. sorry this post is so fucking long and dumb. but thats why
Make yourself a warm mug of tea or hot chocolate, snuggle up in a blanket and focus on letting yourself relax. You'll be able to think much more clearly about your experience in a day or two.
Now, it's time to just be.
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Re: Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?! [Re: MOTH]
#5010583 - 12/03/05 02:00 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Limelight said: i just cant get to the fucking point, and my head is so scrambled and unorganized right now.
so yeah.. sorry this post is so fucking long and dumb. but thats why
Make yourself a warm mug of tea or hot chocolate, snuggle up in a blanket and focus on letting yourself relax. You'll be able to think much more clearly about your experience in a day or two.
Now, it's time to just be.
thanks. i love the shroomery just for this reason
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Re: Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?! [Re: Limelight]
#5010595 - 12/03/05 02:04 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Chill man, acid takes it sweet time with you. You may be feeling it for a day, or two, or week. It will lighten though, relax. Give it time. Analyze yourself and your trip. Sounds like you got acid to me, the jaw clenching and "thinking" trip you desribe nail that one.
Sounds like you have preconcieved notions about what was going to happen. It can lead to a lot of confusion, aye? It is better to just let things come as they do. That part about the Beatle's song is not that freaky, cmon now, slowing and speeding up, that's it? Music slowing down is a pretty common thing with acid, as well as speeding up.
And, acid heads going off on tangets? I think you need to look at yourself. Does a person need a reason to go on for four hours and talk to you? I think you have notions in your head that everything everyone says must have a point and must lead logically to it. Do you think people are mentally "messed up" because they go off on tangents? That is strange thinking. Sounds like you have programming from parents or authority figures left in you. It comes out in your writing.
WTF happened is it seems you tripped and had ideas in your head of what it was supposed to be like BEFORE IT HAPPENED. Bad idea right there.
Most of all, relax, watch some good movies, and give yourself some time to recover. It seems like this trip was probably a big thing to you, you probably just don't seem to be able to recognize it yet. That is the way sometimes.
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Re: Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?! [Re: MOTH]
#5010604 - 12/03/05 02:06 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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You were tripping. Some people just get less visuals from LSD than others, some times you may need to do more.
The sore muscles/etc, is because of the vertigo you can expierence, you tend to twist and hold your body in odd ways while tripping and not even notice it - just do some stretches, take some muscle relaxants, or see if someone can give you a massage - thats pretty normal.
The slight metallic taste is also normal, espically if it was on small normal sized blotter - while acid is generally tasteless, there is can be a slight metallic like taste to it, I think I read someone compare it to "like placing a spoon on your tounge". Aslong as it wasnt overtly bitter/vile that you felt like you HAD to swallow it because it tasted so bad.
The speeding up/slowing down of music? Thats normal for me. I love how LSD affects my perception of music, I find that lower tones/notes seem to get proccssed at a different speed then high pitched notes, this creates a rather interesting effect in how I hear the music.
I remeber listening to a hawtin remix of Dr. Bootygrabber, he completly fucked up with the vocals in it, would have the vocals layered overtop of eachother, one of them running at a slower pitch, and another going at a higher pitch - the end result was a total headfuck of a song that I *LOVED*
Its like, I'd hear the lower part first, it'd get proccssed slower/deeper, then the normal pitch would come in,a nd it'd be like hearing them at different times but at the same time at once.
I also find that LSD has a tendancy at times of, 'not realizing your tripping while your tripping' - you may think you're 100% sober (still seeing things, but just not 'registerng' the visuals), then BOOM - it sneaks back up on you.
LSD at times, can be like a sinister push into another reality. Other times, LSD is a subtle little creature and you're off your ass and dont even know it untill you look back on the night and reflect on your expierences.
On point #4 - exactly, LSD is /very/ different from mushrooms, its why it's so hard to compare the two.
Also, I've found that some times, LSD just takes a long time to really get into the full swing of things.
But, as listed on erowid - common negative side-effects of LSD
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# anxiety # tension, jaw tension # increased perspiration # nausea # dizziness, confusion
As for the come-up/etc.
^ Erowids LSD chart.
The comeup can take around 1.5 hours - sometimes a bit longer, some times a bit faster. I've found that theres been times where after 1.5 hours, I *think* I am at the peak of the trip, then it ebs down again (like in the graph), then at around the 2 hour mark, it'll kick into an even stronger peak.
At this point, you'll start to have periods of increasingly intense expierences, then mild out, then more intense, then mild, and slowly it will start an eb/flow back down to baseline.
But, I'd venture a guess that my 2-2.5 hour peak, is more intense than my 'first peak'.
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Re: Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?! [Re: mecreateme]
#5010625 - 12/03/05 02:11 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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mecreateme said: Chill man, acid takes it sweet time with you. You may be feeling it for a day, or two, or week. It will lighten though, relax. Give it time. Analyze yourself and your trip. Sounds like you got acid to me, the jaw clenching and "thinking" trip you desribe nail that one.
Sounds like you have preconcieved notions about what was going to happen. It can lead to a lot of confusion, aye? It is better to just let things come as they do. That part about the Beatle's song is not that freaky, cmon now, slowing and speeding up, that's it? Music slowing down is a pretty common thing with acid, as well as speeding up.
And, acid heads going off on tangets? I think you need to look at yourself. Does a person need a reason to go on for four hours and talk to you? I think you have notions in your head that everything everyone says must have a point and must lead logically to it. Do you think people are mentally "messed up" because they go off on tangents? That is strange thinking. Sounds like you have programming from parents or authority figures left in you. It comes out in your writing.
WTF happened is it seems you tripped and had ideas in your head of what it was supposed to be like BEFORE IT HAPPENED. Bad idea right there.
Most of all, relax, watch some good movies, and give yourself some time to recover. It seems like this trip was probably a big thing to you, you probably just don't seem to be able to recognize it yet. That is the way sometimes.
hey, thanks for the post. ill try and go into what you said.
about the beatles song. i realize there were auditory hallucinations.. but this was wayyy more than it should have been. we compared it to like 10 other songs to see if they slwoed down too, and they were all normal, even songs which change tempo. that one song though would slow down literally.. like taking 5x longer htan it should. it like seemed as if it slowed time down.. i geuss its not that uncommon then, it jus tseemd a hell of a lot mroe than what should be 'allowed' for how ahrd i was tripping.
btw, i dont think everything needs a point. it was great chitchat. i just noticed the way he answered my questions, he never really answered them, he would get sidetracked before then. lik ei would say "how was....?" and he would never get there. im not sayni ghti sis bad, i just figured it had a little to do with it.. because thats hwo i feel now but on a lesser level. i wasnt really judging ora nyhting.
and i DONT think people are mentally messed up at all, i just wondered if that was in fact a side effect. that guy was one of the coolest poele ive tlaked to. and could you please clarify 'what comes out in my writing'? im seriously interested now more about waht you are saying by this.
annd yea.. preexisting expectations isnt a good idea. haha
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Re: Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?! [Re: Limelight]
#5010637 - 12/03/05 02:15 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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great post kaniz. i especially agree with not thinking youre tripping and it sneaks up on you. thats definitely how i felt and i can relate to that.
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Re: Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?! [Re: Limelight]
#5010642 - 12/03/05 02:17 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've taken mushrooms before and not felt at all trippy, but then something TOO BIZARRE will happen, and then I'll realize, "Ohhh yeahhh...I'm tripping."
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Re: Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?! [Re: MOTH]
#5010653 - 12/03/05 02:20 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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hahah! a lot of stuff like that happened.
as a sidenote, how would i get more visuals, just take more? im not looking for 'just eyecandy' .. but i would enjoy that part, as im very artistic person and i love the idea of just seeing pretty colors and stuff. i also like the mindfuck aspect too.
i think thats where my pre-expectations lead me astray. i expected even a little visuals. so even though i had hardcore mind anomalies, there were no visuals so i kept thinking i wasnt tripping... despite the fact that i WAS, simply based on my thought porcesses alone.
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Edited by Limelight (12/03/05 02:21 PM)
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Re: Tried acid for first time... WTF happened?! [Re: Limelight]
#5010659 - 12/03/05 02:22 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can't exactly pinpoint it as I don't have time, just taking into account all your posts I have read over time. This is not something that can be magically fixed. It is not something that is necesserily wrong either. That is a personal judgement. I am talking about changing parts of oneself. Timothy Leary and Robert Anton Wilson have much to say on the matter, I think you might be well directed to them.
Stop looking for visuals and start looking for what is right in front of you.
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Edited by mecreateme (12/03/05 02:24 PM)
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