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OfflineAngeloWish
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Cobweb on casing?
    #4982958 - 11/26/05 11:59 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Hello... i think this is cobweb, this is my first casing so i don't know... what do you think? Is there anything i can do?

DATA:

- 3 Puerto Rico Cakes
- Cased 50/50
- 7 days since cased

Thanks a lot




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Re: Cobweb on casing? [Re: AngeloWish]
    #4983446 - 11/26/05 02:59 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

It does indeed look like cobweb. I believe you can kill this off by using a spray with hydrogen peroxide in it. Use about 4 parts Peroxide (sold at 3%) to 96 parts water in your solution. If you have no success with this percentage, step up the concentration a bit. 3% Peroxide is commonly sold as optical lense cleaner. Hope this helps.


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Re: Cobweb on casing? [Re: HyphalTryptamin]
    #4989020 - 11/28/05 08:48 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

omg thats gonna spread dude take care of that cobwebed nightmare


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Re: Cobweb on casing? [Re: bongtoke]
    #4989530 - 11/28/05 12:44 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

you'll want to cut that out and fix that IMEED. and 7 days is pretty long for the casing to not have colonized yet.


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Re: Cobweb on casing? [Re: ShroomArtist84]
    #4989594 - 11/28/05 01:02 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't been able to fight it back with h2o2... i hope it is not too late to recase... also this sporeworks puertos took ages to colonize the jars with a very slow growth and not rhizomorphic at all (like 32 days)... i dunno if it would take too much time to colonize the casing... i have other casing with PF Standard and they are taking too long too (7 days now) to poke through the mix (only one spot visible)...

Is there anything i am not doing right here??? I cased 1 1/2 cakes per tray using 50/50 verm-peat, colonizing at 84 degrees. Guideance is apreciated.


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Re: Cobweb on casing? [Re: AngeloWish]
    #4990409 - 11/28/05 04:14 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

seems like your doing ok. are u spraying every now and then with some h2o?

you might need to recase, if i were you i would try just tossing the casing in the FC after 3 more days.

its worked for me before, worth a try before just chucking them out.


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Re: Cobweb on casing? [Re: ShroomArtist84]
    #4990450 - 11/28/05 04:25 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

oh i have been spraying... but it won't back off...
i'll recase but what do u mean with tossing after 3 more days... reacase and wait 3 days, is that it?


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Re: Cobweb on casing? [Re: AngeloWish]
    #4993179 - 11/29/05 06:35 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Make sure to add some lime or another PH raising material when using peat for a casing layer. Peat's acidic and will allow cobweb to grow like that without lime being added to the casing mixture. Before you recase, allow the freshly cleaned off substrate 24 hours to heal up from cleaning and that should help slow down the cobweb mold after you recase the substrate. A mild bleach misting (1:200 ratio) after you've cleaned off the contaminated casing layer wouldn't hurt either. Make sure the air gets exchanged plenty also. Cobweb loves stagnant air....


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Re: Cobweb on casing? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4993379 - 11/29/05 09:08 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

OK... i understand but have some questions:

1. Where should i put the tray while the substrate heals for 24 hrs.?
2. My other casings and this one included, have just one or two little myc spots that have poked through the mix and 8 days have passed... my case is like 1/2" wet verm at the bottom, 1.5" - 2" substrate and .5" casing mix. Is there anything i am not doing well???

BTW: The casing mix has calcium carbonate sand like a 10%

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Re: Cobweb on casing? [Re: AngeloWish]
    #4997852 - 11/30/05 09:53 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

AngeloWish said:
OK... i understand but have some questions:

1. Where should i put the tray while the substrate heals for 24 hrs.?
2. My other casings and this one included, have just one or two little myc spots that have poked through the mix and 8 days have passed... my case is like 1/2" wet verm at the bottom, 1.5" - 2" substrate and .5" casing mix. Is there anything i am not doing well???

BTW: The casing mix has calcium carbonate sand like a 10%

Thanks




Just lightly cover it with foil. Just lay it on top of the tray and store it for 24 hours anywhere at room temperature. Make sure to patch the new growth spots on the casing layer with new casing material so you can allow the rest of the mycelium time to catch up. Keep patching the casing layer until you get an even rhizo coverage comming up to the top of the casing layer. This will give you the best chance at a nice, even pinset....


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Re: Cobweb on casing? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4998875 - 11/30/05 03:13 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks a lot man...

patch before transfering to fruiting chamber or while it is there?


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Re: Cobweb on casing? [Re: AngeloWish]
    #4999546 - 11/30/05 05:13 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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AngeloWish said:
Thanks a lot man...

patch before transfering to fruiting chamber or while it is there?


However you do it. Just get the rhizo coverage nice and even through patching and then induce 12 hours of white light a day, the proper humidity, and frequent air exchange to promote pinning. See the rhizo patches starting to come up in pic 1? You'll want to patch over them with moist casing material so the rest of the rhizo growth can catch up. Pic 5's the wrong one and I can't upload the right one until tommorrow. But you'll get the point....


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Re: Cobweb on casing? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #5001802 - 12/01/05 09:53 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Thank a lot man! Well... eventhough i have no rhizo myc i haven't patched but i will... i just thought it didn't worth it since there are just a few tiny spots of myc but i guess even those are important. Thanks for the pics and all... i just hope to make it.


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Re: Cobweb on casing? [Re: AngeloWish]
    #5001877 - 12/01/05 10:23 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

The tiny patches of mycelium you're talking about need to be patched over so they don't get exposed to light and fresh air. The light and fresh air will cause the tiny patches of mycelium to start to knot up and fruit. Having an uneven rhizo set on the casing layer will cause uneven pin setting and will knock the total yeild of the crop down. Patching is a good habit to get into for growing any types of mushrooms. With the coverage being even, you'll get a nice, even pin set and there's no interuption of the mycelium from a premature pin that pops up. When that happens, the premature pin or pins can have a large impact on the rest of the casing layers ability to fruit well. Good luck and have fun....


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Re: Cobweb on casing? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #5002398 - 12/01/05 12:56 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks a lot for your patience and explanation. I really apreciate all the info provided and thank you. I will post when i manage to fruit something, i hope :wink:

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