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Mairhair
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Edible species question...
#4981491 - 11/25/05 09:44 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Coprinus_micaceus - is this hallucinogenic or edible? (found at base of tree) Boletus zelleri - edible, right? (found in rotting stumps) Clitocybe nuda / Lepista nuda: The Blewit - edible? hallucinogenic?
thats all for now... i have pictures of these species but i think i have them properly identified. all characteristics match up. it's awesome to finally be identifying mushrooms properly... my only problem now is finding the good ones!!!
oye... Any known national forests in WA that are good? or is that a legitimate question... i know connifer and cedar but most woods up here have thosE!!! thanks all.
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Re: Edible species question... [Re: Mairhair]
#4981828 - 11/25/05 11:00 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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coprinus - micaceus is listed as edible, but it looks too much like other"ink" caps that contain coprine which will make you very sick if consumed with alcohol.
Boletus zelleri- also listed as edible, but just because it can be eaten doesn't nescessarily mean it should.
clitocybe nuda- the blewitt is edible and choice.
******* I would not recommend eating anything you found*****
Without taking spore prints and posting pics here,to get an accurate id, you could make a big mistake eating something, your "pretty" sure about. Especially if you thought any of those species are active, which they are not.
hope this info helps- norm
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Re: Edible species question... [Re: Mairhair]
#4982028 - 11/26/05 12:17 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Coprinus and Clitocybe are both species that are frequently misidentified. Both have similar lookalike species that should not be eaten. What specific features did you use to identify each one?
While the Boletus species is edible, I'm not aware of many people who have eaten it.
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Re: Edible species question... [Re: Mairhair]
#4982070 - 11/26/05 12:40 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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As far as eating Coprinus species goes I would only suggest Coprinus comatus.. it's far more easily identified and is thought of by most as a choice edible. I have to agree that the Blewit is probably not one of the safest things to try and identify for a beginner.. Personally, I like the species though. If you decide to eat it, I would suggest getting some input from someone that has experience with picking and eating it.
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Mairhair
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Re: Edible species question... [Re: Mairhair]
#4982362 - 11/26/05 07:02 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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in response to above...
here are pictures of the mushrooms in question... i'll post sporeprint information tomorrow. dont worry my new friends, i am not te kid in class who eats a purple paste stick because he's curious if it tastes like grape since it's purple...
so anyway, here y'are. hope the quality is okay... the 200k image size limit makes it hard. But i think i did pretty good with the quality i had to work with.. shrug? Who knows... anyway...

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Re: Edible species question... [Re: Mairhair]
#4983388 - 11/26/05 02:36 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Edible maybe i wouldn't try. For sure not active.
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Mairhair
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Re: Edible species question... [Re: pooppoop]
#4983596 - 11/26/05 04:04 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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yea, well the clitocybe (no sporeprint?) still looks good but we probably wont eat the boletes (beige sporeprint). probably will avoid the coprinus micaceus too (black sporeprint)
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Re: Edible species question... [Re: Mairhair]
#4986503 - 11/27/05 02:23 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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With the possible Clitocybe the spore print color is probably the most important feature to verify. For a Blewit it should come out pale pinkish tan, not rusty brown. Note that, for identification purposes, spore prints need to be done on white paper.
As a group Boletes are among the safest mushrooms to eat. All North American boletes that are poisonous bruise blue, have red or orange tubes or tube mouths, or both. If your bolete has neither of those features it's not poisonous, although it could still be inedible because of flavor. It could also just be nasty and not worth eating.
Of those three, the Coprinus are the most difficult to identify correctly. If they're Coprinus micaceus they should have some tiny mica-like particles (like glitter) on the cap surface. Try looking carefully with a magnifier.
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Mairhair
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Re: Edible species question... [Re: Mairhair]
#4987703 - 11/27/05 08:17 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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well i'm getting more comfortable with identifying the mushrooms i pick... now hopefully i'll find the right places to look and be lucky enough to get there first (you wouldn't believe how many patches i've come across that have been picked already, even deep in the forst!!! I'm planning on making a trip down to the olympic national rainforest. any tips?
Well, the sporeprints ended up re-enforcing my suspicions on the identity of those mushrooms... the micaceas left a black sporeprint and the rain probably washed away the mica like material. The blewit's sporeprint resembled a dull pink version of the gill color... i dunno, my best description but well within normal characteristics. As to the boletes, they actually have a good flavor when they're fried and cut the right way. We had them in spaghetti. A naturopath my girlfriend knows took a look and verified them as the zelleri, but the sporeprint had matched anyway, so i was pretty sure. I dunno. The problem though is that these are all pretty distinct kinds.
The only way i know how to determine a good mushroom from a bad one in the field is to see how it bruises (blue or no). Liberty caps and Cubensis are giving me the most trouble id'ing just due to the prevalence of lookalikes. I can always collect a bunch and take sporeprints when i get home, but i've brought home about 5 paper grocery bags full so far and haven't found a single active mushroom in the lot. It seems like connifers and cedars are the only trees growing in the forests i venture through, and i always go if not the first sunny day after a rain, the day after that... I mean, do i have to go hunting at dawn the day after rain? Is there something i'm missing here? I'm sure everyone has a trick and they probably dont want to post them on the internet for tons of people to read, because that might cut down on their harvest! but if anyone does have any tips that will help me find some active mushrooms here in the PNW that they'd be comfortable sharing with me, pm me or reply here.
ps- those of you with backyards that naturally have the right kinds of mushrooms growing, i'm green....
Edited by Mairhair (11/27/05 08:19 PM)
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