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SystemTool462
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bulk producing ques.
#4983424 - 11/26/05 02:48 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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i am gonna grow some shrooms this time with a 5 gal. bucket and some cow manure and somee staw i have grabbed from a farm near my house...my final prduct i want to turn out somthing like this (http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2815070/an/0/page/0) i have the basic steps pretty much down and im ready to try to grow with this method...the only thing is i dont know how much poo/ straw to use for a 5 gallon bucket...i wanted to do about 70%-30% dung/straw ratio...and i am also confused on how you inject the substrate...can i use a mycelin syringe from a pftek cake? is so how much milky white fluid do i need and how do i add it....or could i use a spore syringe from a spore print? if so how much liquid should i add and how to do it i would rather avoid the agar techniques...cuz getting a fresh shroom is hard to do right now in my town...and i have done the spore and mycelin syringes b 4 and i know how those work and especailly the mycelin syringe...it colonizes in a very short amount of time any input would be nice thanks peace
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HippieChick
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Hey , first , learn how to post a link . You're not doing it right .
Inoculating bulk sub. with LC or spore syringe isn't going to work as well , if at all , as mixing with spawn . Didn't work for me , lol . Just tossed 86 quarts of that experiment .
Based on how your question read , you should really do a little more research .
Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony. Hippie Chick
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Edited by HippieChick (11/26/05 06:36 PM)
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SystemTool462
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Re: bulk producing ques. [Re: HippieChick]
#4983498 - 11/26/05 03:24 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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not too concerned with a pointless link...im sure it wasent to much harder for you to highlight it, copy and paste it while i was waiting for a response i read 10 to one substrate/spawn ratio when your using a grain spawn...could i use a verm/brown rice flour cake when it is fully colonized to inoculate the bulk substrate? and how do i do this...by just stirring it in with the poo/straw substrate? naww....i have done tons of research...i am to a point where i just have a couple vague areas..and i figure the best way to clearify what im trying to find out is to ask...so thats what im doin
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StrophariaShaman
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Re: bulk producing ques. [Re: HippieChick]
#4983502 - 11/26/05 03:25 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree with hippiechick, no offense, but it sounds like you need to put your face back in the books.
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Asc1189
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i luv hippiechick. she gets straight to the point
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SystemTool462
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"naww....i have done tons of research...i am to a point where i just have a couple vague areas..and i figure the best way to clearify what im trying to find out is to ask...so thats what im doin" -SystemTool462
i cannot figure a couple things out...i cannot find the answer in the text, no matter how much i am in the text books so far and how else should it be...there is no post on here that perfectly matches my situation and what i have and what im trying to do...and that makes me have a few questions maybe a simple yes or no....or someone directing me to a forum that they think might help...or someone who isnt lazy just typing up some help....either way i am asking....so maybe you could help
and also in my post i said that while i was waiting for a response i was found this....blah blah blah...POINT IS: my face will never leave the books...im gonna still keep reading and writing shit down and trying to do this perfect...just like i did before...so since i am gonna be researching anyways.....WHY NOT HELP? im just saying.....
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walkclothed
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if u got pf cakes going right now, wait until u have enough colonized cakes so that when u crumble them up, they equal about 20% of the volume of the poo ur spawning to.
if ur using a 5 gal bucket, ull probably use about 1-2 gal of poo/straw to get a good substrate depth. (use ur own judgement. u want a good 3-4" probably.)
whatever 20% of the volume of the poo ur using is, use that much volume of colonized pf cakes, crumbled really well, and mix it evenly in with the poop. then just let that incubate until its all colonized
then case it if u want to and birth
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poboy
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Bad way to get peeps too help you man.Use the lc to make rye or wbs spawn to spawn the poo. Use 20% rye spawn to the poo.Your new here so you should chill out.And if you are trying to use a lc to hit up a large bin of poo you dont know near what you think you do.Poboy
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Se77vN
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Re: bulk producing ques. [Re: poboy]
#4984011 - 11/26/05 06:15 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
poboy said: Bad way to get peeps too help you man.Use the lc to make rye or wbs spawn to spawn the poo. Use 20% rye spawn to the poo.Your new here so you should chill out.And if you are trying to use a lc to hit up a large bin of poo you dont know near what you think you do.Poboy
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HippieChick
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Quote:
SystemTool462 said: not too concerned with a pointless link...im sure it wasent to much harder for you to highlight it, copy and paste it while i was waiting for a response i read 10 to one substrate/spawn ratio when your using a grain spawn...could i use a verm/brown rice flour cake when it is fully colonized to inoculate the bulk substrate? and how do i do this...by just stirring it in with the poo/straw substrate? naww....i have done tons of research...i am to a point where i just have a couple vague areas..and i figure the best way to clearify what im trying to find out is to ask...so thats what im doin
If it's a pointless link , why did you say you want your final product to look like ......insert pointless link here .
No , not too much harder . Probably about as hard as you finding the answers yourself . Been doing all this research , a ton , and don't know if you can use a colonized cake as spawn , or how to mix spawn to poo , lol . That ton of research must have been WET weight , lol .
You say you have the "basics" down but are asking about spawn ratio and how , and what , to spawn to the poo . Those ARE the basics , lol .
I'm not trying to be smart here , Just letting you know , the more you know the better you'll do
Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony. Hippie Chick
-------------------- Peace,Love and Happiness HC Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose.............. I LUV My Greenhouse http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5545848#5545848 My First Pans http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6212058#6212058
Edited by HippieChick (11/26/05 07:47 PM)
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Re: bulk producing ques. [Re: HippieChick]
#4984108 - 11/26/05 06:36 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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SystemTool462
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Re: bulk producing ques. [Re: HippieChick]
#4986669 - 11/27/05 03:01 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2815070/an/0/page/0
there...are you happy now? how retarted...i was just saying that the link does not matter...its no big deal...i thought if anyone really wanted to they could get a visual of what i was doing but it really was not something important...
listen...i dont need you, or anyone on this shroomery to think that i have done enough research...i know i have done alot...im not some fuckin person that can devote 4 or 5 hours a day to this place i have a life its more like 20 mins twice a day and sumtimes during school ill read for a while.... and so some people who wont help me and just wanna applaud miss peace and happiness hippy chick for not helping me but trying to put me in my place...then fuck all of you...i dont care what the hell you all think...all of you sit there and act like im the new child of the shroomery, well sorry i dont sit here and waste my day posting alot, i work out and have a job and lots of friends that i am always with...so what anyone on here thinks does not matter to me at all...please understand that and i am very thankful for the one person who helped me out tho...i would of done the same thing if i could of helped
and i guess i mis used the word "basic" in my response before...i pretty much knew everything but that simple part of the process....because in most things i read there was just a part that says to add the grain spawn to the substrate....and yes some of them gave measurements for growing in things other than 5 gallon buckets...but i have the buckets and so i wanted to be a little more exact and ask some experenced people so that i dont have to do as much trial and error with this attempt to grow....cuz i found out with the PF Tek it can take a few times to get it sometimes...but i would rather just do it right the first time....so i mean looking through the reports over bulk production...going through tons of the pictures of peoples own attempts at growing in that big forum....and looking through the FAQ and other areas repots about agar and casing and ways to be steril and stuff.......so if doing that isnt enough then i dont know....i mean dammit isnt a forum usually for asking questions...some of the other one i get on somtimes thats all it is is questions...but one here and o shit lets tell him to take the whole day and do nothing but read....and dont ask!!! untill you read everything on here and know every single bit of it....damm...thats stupid... plus i hate time...it sucks i am always losing the damm day just like "Time" by Pink Floyd says...
Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day You fritter and waste the hours in an off-hand way Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town Waiting for someone or something to show you the way Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today And then the one day you find ten years have got behind you No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking And racing around to come up behind you again The sun is the same in the relative way, but you're older And shorter of breath and one day closer to death Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
damm good song...isnt it?? should of been my senior song but oklahoma hicks voted for country and ...ah...
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JoeyShmoey
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Just make sure your Poo and straw layer is at max maybe 4 inches thick. And LC will throw off your water content. Use grain for spawn. Oh yea just make sure you pasturize the bulk materials, poo and straw. GL
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lid
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Re: bulk producing ques. [Re: JoeyShmoey]
#4986806 - 11/27/05 03:43 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Someone is angry....Your best bet is to PM the guy who did the bucket grow, and ask him what measurements he used...And if you want to try inoculating a bulk sub w/an LC PM the other pro growers.
A lot of people who frequent the cult forum are getting tired of seeing vague threads, and redundant questions so they end up ignoring them (or they will just tell you to do more research, or find your own answers). After you've gotten good at cultivating, and know what you are doing you will understand why people are giving you some flak, you will know how they feel and will realize where they are coming from.
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Shnezbit
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Re: bulk producing ques. [Re: lid]
#4987055 - 11/27/05 05:14 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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well said lid.
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SystemTool462
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Re: bulk producing ques. [Re: Shnezbit]
#4987442 - 11/27/05 07:22 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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yep haha im not madd...what a waste that would be....im just right and kinda tired of people thinking their better....kinda like how these redundant questions annoy you...cuz omg! they just put such a damper on everyones lives...and i have to click on the forum and i deff have to put them in their place...o god the stupid questions man they ruin everything!!...... ...... haha...see why this mentality is dumb? im sure i have at one point or another been annoyed by a question and i will again like everyone else but never on a fuckin online forum thing...if i saw it was a stupid question i wouldnt even waste my time reading it...let alone try to tell them they dont know what the hell their doing in a smart ass manner...cuz even if i dont know exactly how to grow...the worst that would happen is a failed attempt at growin...no biggie..i was simply asking and i deff wouldnt waste my time putting in little icons celebrating the smart-asse's so called victory over someone she does not know and just asked a question cuz before i was ever going to maybe be a fag and say somthing to someone asking a dumb question...id stop and ask myself...where the hell would everyone be if they didnt ask a question every now and then when confused.... ahh o well this shit i stupid im just gonna ignore assholes and be better for it
i am pretty much done with this forum...thanks for the input everyone that helped....and thanks for teaching me a valuable lesson i pretty much already knew but aparently a online forum is a big deal...just ignore all the fuckers...
PEACE, corbin
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SystemTool462
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well said system tool
HAHA
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El_Flying_Mohawk
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Wow... Ok, I'll have to go with Hippiechick there... I don't consider myself having a lot of experience, but I did put my face in the books for quite a while before showing up here. I have asked a couple questions in the past weeks, and I always got more than complete answers (thanks to all), but I tried to be a little specific also.
If answering your question means doing an overview of an entire tek, the forum is not the place. Not only for the one who's gonna have to write the answer, but also for the readers. It's much more interesting to see an accurate answer, or view of a precise question, than another tek overview that we have all read something similar in the archive section(because most people here do or did spend time in the archives). It's not even a matter of being a jerk about a question and not wanting to answer it, it's about the hole idea of the forum.
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Edited by El_Flying_Mohawk (11/27/05 08:22 PM)
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HippieChick
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Yup . You nailed it .
I'm the biggest asshole on here . So is Backupward , the guy who posted the icon . We would rather do nothing but give peeps an undeserved hard time . We wouldn't even consider answering a question or doing anything to help a noob out . I apologize . Please forgive me .
LMAO
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Holydiver
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: Unproductive flame fest at this point.
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