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janelle1502
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Re: Oh brother! [Re: sirreal]
#4967557 - 11/22/05 09:29 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok here's my two cents:
Your feelings about the situation are valid.
You have absolutely no control over other peoples actions, regardless of your relationship to them.
You do, however, have a choice in how you deal with your situation. Noone can tell you how to do that.
I usually choose not to be around inconsiderate assholes.
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Re: Oh brother! [Re: sirreal]
#4967565 - 11/22/05 09:31 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's fair enough man, she probably is an inconsiderate asshole. I personally don't see anything morally wrong with what they did though. There is so much evil in this world, two adults having consensual sex is nothing to worry about.
I can see where you're coming from, i jsut think it would have been better for all involved if you had just ignored it and perhaps confronted your sister the next day.
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sirreal
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I actually do feel a little better about the whole thing after reading all of these posts.
You are right, it really isn't my concern expect for the fact that she was totally inconsiderate.
I am totally disgusted with my sister and I will have to deal with that. One of the ways in which I am going to deal with it is to never let her bring alcohol around me again.
I wonder what would the responses have been like had it been a thirty-six year old brother fucking his eighteen year old sister.
I never claimed it was morally wrong. I don't think so either.
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Edited by sirreal (11/22/05 09:53 AM)
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Re: Oh brother! [Re: sirreal]
#4967752 - 11/22/05 10:28 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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i don't know... i got the impression from reading your initial post this was a moral dilemma for you. you felt sick being around her... she needs to be held accountable... she got him drunk and seduced him...
then you post:
"I wonder what would the responses have been like had it been a thirty-six year old brother fucking his eighteen year old sister."
good question bro...
while we're at it, i wonder if it would be ok for dad to jump his daughters bones? or for mom to "make love" to her son?
seriously... this isn't a matter of you being sexually hungup...
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Re: Oh brother! [Re: cateyes]
#4970202 - 11/22/05 08:51 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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My intention was not to pass moral judgment on my sister. My sister must determine her own morality. I do have hangups about the situation, I never suggested that I did not. I have already made clear the hangups that I have. Fucking our brother on my living room floor for all to see and hear is the big one. The disregard for my feelings being the next. She is in charge of her own conscious, not me.
It does raise some moral questions though. I am just not very good at drawing a line between right and wrong unless the consequences are immediate and clear. The consequences for this are hard to know. I just know how it made me feel. What if my brother decides never to drink again and gets his shit together. Then this might have been a good thing for him.
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Edited by sirreal (11/22/05 09:04 PM)
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Re: Oh brother! [Re: sirreal]
#4971730 - 11/23/05 07:34 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
sirreal said:
I do have hangups about the situation, I never suggested that I did not. I have already made clear the hangups that I have. Fucking our brother on my living room floor for all to see and hear is the big one.
sirreal... i just want you to understand that i wasn't saying you had hangups.
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Re: Oh brother! [Re: cateyes]
#4971781 - 11/23/05 08:00 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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One of the ways in which I am going to deal with it is to never let her bring alcohol around me again.
probably the best conclusion I have seen in this thread so far... you have to wonder, was this truly an act driven by sexual energy... or was it driven by alcohol.
I would have to lean more towards the latter, however I'm not sure how I feel about the moral issues... I've never had brothers or sisters.
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Re: Oh brother! [Re: cateyes]
#4972434 - 11/23/05 01:23 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just because you don't adamantly oppose something doesn't mean you promote it. This is kindegarten stuff people.
Incest? Who fucking cares? In the end we're all fucking ourselves anyways 
I see no problems with incest as long as both parties are capable of making emotionally sound decesions.
Though "emotionally sound decesions" become tricky because there are two types of incest that children can experience, covert and overt. Overt being touch and covert being emotional. Covert comes into play in that it could be argued that someone raised in a househole where covert incest was the norm was not provided with a sound emotional base from which to make the future decesion to fuck a family member or not.
When people hear the word incest they throw up red flags and neglect the fact that an incestous relationship should still follow the same rules as a non-incestuous relationship. I.E a 35 year old man should not be fucking a 15 year old, daughter or not.
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Edited by Smoker For Peace (11/23/05 01:30 PM)
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Re: Oh brother! [Re: cateyes]
#4981364 - 11/25/05 09:15 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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cateyes said:
... some people enjoy humping their sisters it seems...
More people than you know. Incest is not abnormal, it's just not talked about partly because of reactions like this:
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bert said: Frankly, I'm appalled that Icelander is promoting incest. It seems to me as if he is simply playing the devil's advocate just for kicks. Incest is not simply some unsubstantiated modern cultural taboo. Health/genetic issues aside, it's not mentally healthy to be unable to differentiate familial and sexual love (especially for the brother at such a young age and with hard liquor involved to boot...)
I guarantee there have been incestuous relationships in your family and probably that of everyone else that has posted in this thread.
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In my freshman year of high school I knew these two kids a guy and girl who lost their virginity to each other. Their parents where both single parents and met through their kids and married. So they ended up becoming step brother and step sister living together. I thought that was fucking rad. They weren't going out anymore though by the time their parents marriend and they had to live together.
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