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Offlinehawksapprentice
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Re: Clemency for Crip Co-founder? [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #4962763 - 11/21/05 02:01 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I would not see any closure in that for me. Especially since the wounds are not new. If my sister were one of the dead i would still not support him being executed.


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Re: Clemency for Crip Co-founder? [Re: gregorio]
    #4962780 - 11/21/05 02:09 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I dont like the idea of execution, but what are you supposed to do? How do you punish someone effectively when they have a life sentence without making people pay to take care of him and without killing him? I don't agree with violence, but at the same time I dont feel like I should have to pay to keep a person in prision until they die. Nobody uses their money to keep a roof over my head, or food on my plate. This a tough question indeed.


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Re: Clemency for Crip Co-founder? [Re: lid]
    #4962796 - 11/21/05 02:14 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

If they let someone who founded one of the worst gangs in America and killed 4 people(who knows how many he really killed/what other things he did) live, then they are making a mockery of the death penalty. If this was a klansman there would be no argument.


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Re: Clemency for Crip Co-founder? [Re: daimyo]
    #4962821 - 11/21/05 02:23 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

It would still be an arguement from my perspective. I dont like violence. I dont think that killing him will really do anything. Making an example of him serves no real purpose, it will do nothing. Klansman or no, I don't agree with the death penalty.


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Re: Clemency for Crip Co-founder? [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #4962968 - 11/21/05 05:05 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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hawksapprentice said:
I dont like violence. I dont think that killing him will really do anything. Making an example of him serves no real purpose, it will do nothing. Klansman or no, I don't agree with the death penalty.





I wont play the devils advocate but I will say this, most violent criminals that
are incarcerated for long periods just become more violent, the prison system is
not about rehabilitation, it's about punishment and in prison you learn more
about how to commit these crimes as well as many others with less risk of apprehension

Lets take Williams for a moment, killed four people during a robbery, if he
recieves clememcy and isnt executed, what lesson do others learn that have
chose to follow in his foot steps, does writing a few kids books make him a
better person or is he still a murderer, what chance at life did he give his
victims, the man has alerady had 25 years more than they did, what of the
families of his victims, dad didnt come home to help little johnny with his
homework or practice batting for the little league game, he ensured that there
were far more than just 4 victims to these slayings, how will clememcy affect
those that have been victimized.

each year it costs almost half a million to house death row inmates, that
180million each year of our tax dollars for those 3600 inmates, why would
we want to support these people for 25 years or more, why wasnt he executed
long before now instead of costing us 12.5 million (think you'll make that in
your lifetime?)

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Re: Clemency for Crip Co-founder? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4963015 - 11/21/05 06:02 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

But money really shouldn't be an issue here. I understand the reasons for his execution. Earlier in this thread I brought up the point of money to house this man. I see the point. But what if someone is on death row and they did not commit the crime, they were innocent.

In my opinion that one innocent death nulls any benefits from executing 10,000 guilty ones.

And innocent people have been on death row.


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  Edward Abbey

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Re: Clemency for Crip Co-founder? [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #4963089 - 11/21/05 07:23 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

There are bad people in this world, sometimes hugs and kisses won't fix everything.

He killed a family, put a bullet in his head.


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