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OfflineXAZIA
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what the hell am i doing?
    #495766 - 12/19/01 10:55 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

okay...
i innoculated 13 1/2 pt. jars of brf & verm. with some honey water i made from 1cc of a pf classic syringe. jars colonized in about 8 days. i have never cold shocked so i decided to cold shock half of the jars for 18 hours and not the other half to see the difference it made. i birthed the jars into a new grow room i have constructed http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum2&Number=482832&Forum=Forum2&Words=grow%20room%20suggestions&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=3weeks&Main=482832 .....
about 2 weeks went by and there was little to no pinning, then finally i got about 5 medium sized shroomies (between all 13 jars!!) and about a gram & a half dried of abhorts. but some of the cakes were still doing NOTHING.
so...thinking my magnificent grow room was failing somehow i put the cakes back in the trusty rubbermaid with perlite will revisions are being made.
a slight improvement on the cakes that all ready had pins was seen after about a day or two. but some of the cakes are still doing NOTHING! its been over three weeks since birthing and only four cakes have growth (fat asses) of any kind (one of the cakes was thrown out for suspicious growth sprouts that were green on the tips???) which left me with 8 cakes.
last night i took action and decided to case them with straight verm and see what happens.

question #1: should i have left them alone, since they have been exposed to light for three weeks and then put back "under ground" will this confuse them more and result in an even suckier pin set.

question #2: why aren't my cakes doing anything???? what am i doing wrong?

last night i made some major overhauls to my grow room and i'm just waiting on filter disks to complete it and get it back up and running. i switched to and ultrasonic and created a pvc exhaust for each shelf with the humidifier outside the grow room.

any suggestions, replies, criticism, is all welcome, thanx!
PEACE!


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Bob Marley

Remember, EGOISM is the beginning, the source, and the root of EVIL!

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http://www.mycotopia.net/teks/hongus.html


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OfflineXAZIA
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Re: what the hell am i doing? [Re: XAZIA]
    #495933 - 12/19/01 02:52 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

bump


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Bob Marley

Remember, EGOISM is the beginning, the source, and the root of EVIL!

http://www.fanaticus.com/pf-tek.htm
http://www.mycotopia.net/teks/hongus.html


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Re: what the hell am i doing? [Re: XAZIA]
    #496024 - 12/19/01 04:42 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

i would try the pf double casing tk next time around when you do cakesI find that depending on the strain CAN take Three weeks or more for pinning to start without the double casing your cakes are in danger of drying out during this time I would also put the cakes in your rubbermade terrrarium until they start to pin and then move them to your grow room and grow them out it sounds to me as if thats what happend to yo your cakes they probably dried out too much to flush by ggoing back to your casing method with them they probably will recover when the moisture level stabilizes and they will fruit in the tray I have found that with cakes you should always do the double ended casing tek the pf site says to do it after the first flush but I do it right at birthing and havnt had a dried out cake since and my yealds have increased greatly I now get about 7 dried grams per cake or more this way...... just my two cents hope it helps


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Re: what the hell am i doing? [Re: Sporecloud]
    #496055 - 12/19/01 05:16 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

colonized in 8 days? maybe the center of the cakes are still partially uncolonized


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OfflineBeppoMarx
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Re: what the hell am i doing? [Re: Sporecloud]
    #496094 - 12/19/01 05:53 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

holy fucking run on sentance.
and even when birthed if parts of the middle were not fully colonized; which they probably were if teh whole outside was; then it would have colonized within a day or 2.


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maybe theres a tek out there to explain how to use it!
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Re: what the hell am i doing? [Re: XAZIA]
    #496100 - 12/19/01 06:07 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I too am having the same problem, I have birthed 6 cakes. I get a few shrooms on each and then, nothing. The cakes turn blue and just sit there.

HEEEEELLLLPPPPP

Thank you


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Re: what the hell am i doing? [Re: XAZIA]
    #496102 - 12/19/01 06:09 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

-- question #1: should i have left them alone, since they have been exposed to light for three weeks and then put back "under ground" will this confuse them more and result in an even suckier pin set.

Casing your cakes now should be just fine. I have cased cakes after their first flush, and gotten 2 more large flushes from the casings.

-- question #2: why aren't my cakes doing anything???? what am I doing wrong?

Chances are the cakes were only colonized on the outside because of the liquid culture innoculant. Eight days or even less is not uncommon for a liquid culture innoculant, but a fifth innoculation point at the center of the jar will help ensure a more even mycellium growth.



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Re: what the hell am i doing? [Re: Shdwstr]
    #496817 - 12/20/01 10:59 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

the fifth innoculation point sounds like a nifty bit of advice. i will definitely try this next time.
update:
this morning the 4 cakes that do have shrooms growing are imoproving more and more in the rubbermaid. seems my problems were in my set up. i will make more adjustments and see what hapens. i will let you guys know what happens with the casings although i'm sur know that they will be alright. thanx for the help guys!!


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Bob Marley

Remember, EGOISM is the beginning, the source, and the root of EVIL!

http://www.fanaticus.com/pf-tek.htm
http://www.mycotopia.net/teks/hongus.html


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Re: what the hell am i doing? [Re: XAZIA]
    #496880 - 12/20/01 12:58 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Consult the following XAZIA... this might shed light on your problems..

http://annonymer.members.easyspace.com/GROWTH_PARAMETERS.htm


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Re: what the hell am i doing? [Re: Hammerloaf]
    #496904 - 12/20/01 01:35 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

link is broke.


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"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds."

Bob Marley

Remember, EGOISM is the beginning, the source, and the root of EVIL!

http://www.fanaticus.com/pf-tek.htm
http://www.mycotopia.net/teks/hongus.html


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Re: what the hell am i doing? [Re: XAZIA]
    #496908 - 12/20/01 01:38 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

ok.. try this:

Cubensis Growth Parameters

should work.


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