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Syngenor
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The Truth about 9/11
#495484 - 12/18/01 11:22 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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The proof will be when we are forced to live and work under the conditions that currently exist in China and Bangledesh(sp); any organization/protests/strikes against such conditions will be prosecuted as terrorism under the USA PATRIOT act.
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: Syngenor]
#497173 - 12/20/01 05:35 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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i would like to know how much the president + v.p. are profitting from starting this war. i heard the other day that 18 of 19 members of the usa cabnet(highest level of government) are millionaires, i just dont get it they must be reptiles? DEATH TO CAPITALISM!
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: YouInfoIt]
#497244 - 12/20/01 07:04 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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****i heard the other day that 18 of 19 members of the usa cabnet(highest level of government) are millionaires**** MILLIONARES...AARRGGHH..Get the ropes boys we got ourself a witch hunt...How dare they be millionares. I say call out the national guard they need to be killed!!!!! I can answer your post with two words: SO WHAT?
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: Innvertigo]
#497318 - 12/20/01 08:32 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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well...1. there are many people starving all over the world. its all a game to these people, who can get the most money is the best or some shit. 2 the fact that you have to be rich to have a say in your own country is disgusting.
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YouInfoIt
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: YouInfoIt]
#497515 - 12/21/01 12:45 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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its a hoax! looking back at the pictures of the wtc's towers i noticed that the first plane struck very near to the top of the tower, those buildings stuck quite far above everything else around them, it would not have been too difficult to hit the tower in the center therefore causing thousands more deaths. by the time the second plane struck most people had escaped from the building. and notice how much lower the second struck, curious.
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: YouInfoIt]
#497615 - 12/21/01 03:37 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh come on. The planes hit, people are afraid. Plan worked. It wouldn't matter a bit if 10000 had died instead of 3000.
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: PjS]
#497799 - 12/21/01 12:08 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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its all a bit fishy, if they really wanted to kill as many people as they could they would have hit the first building as close as they could to the ground, the second plane really only destroyed the building. after the attack it was said 6000 or so people were killed, now their saying 2900. i've heard the city of new york really wanted to get rid of the towers because of the huge insurance costs. all in all, the attacks are doing great things for the military industrial fuckers. and another thing, those bastards never made it to the moon, its impossible. who saw the fox special? we'll see for sure when china tries in a coulp[e years.
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: YouInfoIt]
#497855 - 12/21/01 01:04 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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and another thing, those bastards never made it to the moon, its impossible. who saw the fox special? we'll see for sure when china tries in a coulp[e years. your not using the heavy duty aluminium foil, are you? remember to use heavy duty with shiny side out for faxxor protection against CIA brain scans.
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: PGF]
#498184 - 12/21/01 08:22 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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sure ting bosss
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: YouInfoIt]
#498408 - 12/22/01 12:56 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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will you just shut up already..before you make yourself look more like an ass
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: PjS]
#498413 - 12/22/01 01:01 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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"It wouldn't matter a bit if 10000 had died instead of 3000." hahhahaah... what a vicious thing to say
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: YouInfoIt]
#498416 - 12/22/01 01:03 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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"after the attack it was said 6000 or so people were killed, now their saying 2900." there was ALOT of duplicates on the list at first
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: delysid]
#498430 - 12/22/01 01:19 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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>> "after the attack it was said 6000 or so people were killed, now their saying 2900." >> there was ALOT of duplicates on the list at first As well as people reporting relatives they thought were in the building when they were not.
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: Innvertigo]
#498619 - 12/22/01 01:41 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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"SO WHAT? " so maybe some of us have a problem with a country that proclaims all men equal and free when the only thing that really matters is how fat your pocket is.
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: jihead]
#498832 - 12/22/01 07:11 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't think 'body count' was the only thing they were going after. They wanted to hit the symbols of America.. I saw in the news where something like 51leaders of Countries all over the World condemned the attacks but at the same time, a majority of these Countries said US Policy helped bring it about. US Policy that helps promote dictators and corrupt gov'ts as long as they can be bought and Let US business interests dominate. Not that the rest of us Americans don't benefit as well, with cheap oil, or bananas or clothes, etc... What's really humorous, is how so many Americans actually think the US actually promotes Democracy and fairness around the world. Hell, they even try to hold it back here in the US, as seen in the last Presidential election..
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: jihead]
#498851 - 12/22/01 08:21 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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feel free to move to another country that's better...
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: Innvertigo]
#499138 - 12/23/01 03:07 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ya man, that's the one constant through every argument isn't it... I like to keep that one in mind. (Though there are actually a lot of places to live, some arguably better depending on what you're looking for.) Still, you have to look past that fact in the interest of change. (if you know what I mean. If you just say "could be worse" over and over again, and you don't worry about what's going on around you "cause it could be worse", then sooner or later it just might be worse.)
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: Innvertigo]
#499468 - 12/23/01 05:04 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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ulysses makes a good point there. and maybe id rather work towards improving the situation here instead of running away. the problem is exactly as ulysses said.
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: jihead]
#499469 - 12/23/01 05:08 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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****ulysses makes a good point there. and maybe id rather work towards improving the situation here instead of running away*** Your not running away?...That's all you little socialists do is run from challenges? ie: political correctness....
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: Innvertigo]
#499491 - 12/23/01 05:35 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Bah. That was one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard. To counter it I'll offer this: All you rednecks ever do is... shit, I can't think of anything to counter that gem. Good on ya Innvertigo!
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: Ulysees]
#499647 - 12/23/01 09:02 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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ho hum...so much for the enlighted flame fest i was looking for...;)
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: Innvertigo]
#499747 - 12/23/01 11:30 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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hey innvertigo, why do you sit around your computer all day and recite the "truths" as told by aoltimewarner-cia. open your eyes there are other possibilities to what you are told. love, yii
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: Innvertigo]
#499811 - 12/24/01 12:39 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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You don't always get what you want Innvertigo... If it helps, you could hire a dominatrix to make you feel weak and stupid.
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: YouInfoIt]
#499932 - 12/24/01 06:40 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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****hey innvertigo, why do you sit around your computer all day and recite the "truths" as told by aoltimewarner-cia. **** eh what? are you as dumb as i think you are?..yeah i also agree with everything CNN and MSNBC spout..ha ha..sheesh...back in the bunker with ya. ****open your eyes there are other possibilities to what you are told. **** I have entertained the thought that you're a complete kook...does that count?
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: Ulysees]
#499934 - 12/24/01 06:43 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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****You don't always get what you want Innvertigo... If it helps, you could hire a dominatrix to make you feel weak and stupid. *** I gues that would be the only way i guess...trying to deal with the utter briliance on this site won't do it....minus you ofcourse...you entertain me .....and doobie
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: jihead]
#500596 - 12/25/01 04:05 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not to start shit or anything, but what are you doing to fix the prob. other than posting on a mushroom growing site? (Which doesn't do anything except give you something to do.) I'm sorry, but I think our govt. is way to corrupt for us to do anything about it now, it's out of control(our control that is) The govt. can do anything they want cause they can cover up anything they want.
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: s8nluvs69]
#500860 - 12/25/01 01:51 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Funny... Nixon thought the same thing... worked well for him didn't it. Oh wait the CrEEPs were caught and Nixon was found trying to cover it up. Hold isn't that small change compared to what happened on 9-11... so they can't keep a secret about breaking into a building, but training and paying people to fly 4 planes into buildings that they can hide.
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: MokshaMan]
#500927 - 12/25/01 04:04 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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"feel free to move to another country that's better... " I used to hear the same thing when we were protesting the war in Nam. Macho guys like Invertigo would get bumper stickers that had the peace sign and a 'Sign of the American Chicken' tag line. LOL , They are real brave when they have you outnumbered... but I seem to remember the protestors and the Vietnamese winning that battle.. Funny how these dumb flag wavers used to jump our ass if we wore something with the American flag on it (Tommy Smothers?).. There was a statute that forbid it and they would arrest your ass. Now these same idiots go out and decorate everything they own with it and it's OK. Shit, they even have American Flag socks! Posting on a Mushroom growing site may not be much, but at least one can counter the tough guy bullshit that idjits like invertigo throw out. They haven't a wit of intelligence and are best at slinging logos and slogans Here's a sample of the types of poetry that these guys like.. Saw it on a bumper sticker = "Can't feed em, don't Breed em" Seems appropriate on Christmas, don't you think? What jerks...
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: ElPrimo]
#501095 - 12/25/01 08:04 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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i've noticed that for a democracy, there sure are a lot of people who would like to lynch anyone who supports a non-capitalist ideology. i don't hate america, i love the constitution, i just think that there are a lot of attitudes and policies that should be changed. i guess it's this democracy thing that i was taught in school, made me think i was allowed to have a say in my country's government... too bad democracy is useless if the people are brainwashed to agree with the financial elite.
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: Amoeba665]
#503381 - 12/28/01 03:15 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's because it really isn't a democracy we live in, like everyone is told in school. We live in a representative republic. And the rich are able to buy their representation.
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The shame is that most people would probably support programs to help fund education, protect the environment, have a National health care system, Campaign Finance Reform, a decent minimum wage, sane drug laws and other progressive policies. But, as the man states, we don't get a vote on these things... The conservatives are efficient at focusing on side issues and keeping people from uniting. Their biggest draw is to the White male.. they prey on his pride, homophobia and fear of losing his exalted position and so they encourage his resentment against minorities. It started becoming a major plank of the GOP after the Liberal Dems passed the Civil Rights Act in '64. The Republicans have subsequently gone out and catered to the White Southern male voter. That's why all the Southern Dems began switching Parties (Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmond, Phil Grahm, etc) . The GOP keeps using this race card to win votes... It is a terrible thing and has resulted in over 90% of Blacks voting for Dems. What are we going to end up with - a 'White' Political Party and a 'Minority' Political Party? Trouble is... there are more and more minorities and soon they will outnumber Whites. That said, I expect the conservatives to work to create a big wedge between the Hispanics and the Blacks. You see this in our prisons, where racial gangs proliferate (keep them fighting each other and they won't fight the system). It is no mistake that the election laws discriminate against the poor and hence disadvantage the minorities even further. This was shown in Florida, where the Conservatives stole the election. Oh well, things can change fast and I have hope that this coming fall the GOP loses the House of Representatives..
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Re: The Truth about 9/11 [Re: YouInfoIt]
#504547 - 12/30/01 01:17 AM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey YouInfoIt! Death to Capitalism? Those guys arent rich because of capitalism, they're rich because of socialism. Socialism Gives ALL the power to the government, while Capitalism gives the power to the consumer. Those guys are rich because of tax dollars, if we were living in a truly Capitalist society, the only role of the government would be to protect people and their property, and punish people who threaten someones security or property. If we were living in a truly capitalist society, drugs would be legal and people could make their own decitions without the government telling them what to do.
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At Last! [Re: Buddha]
#504569 - 12/30/01 02:13 AM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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Finally! Someone who understands what Capitalism is about! Looking forward to seeing some more posts from you, Buddha. pinky
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Re: At Last! [Re: Phred]
#505026 - 12/30/01 04:09 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's always nice to have someone agree with me when I'm talking about capitalism. Rare indeed.
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Re: At Last! [Re: Buddha]
#505088 - 12/30/01 05:19 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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Buddha, feel free to contribute to the thread entitled "Pure Capitalism". http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum14&Number=451831&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=
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Re: At Last! [Re: Phred]
#505853 - 12/31/01 12:42 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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There is no Pure Socialism or Pure Capitalist societies. The US has literally hundreds and thousands of socialist programs and many have worked quite well. Things such as the National Highway program and School funding. The problem with most idealogues is they don't have a wit of creative intelligence and as such must rely on absolute dogma.... It is not surprising to find so many conservatives are religious wackos... And there are two separate things involved here One is a Political System ....and the Other is an Economic system.. Something conservatives either don't understand or prefer to lie about so as to confuse the average individual.
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Re: At Last! [Re: ElPrimo]
#506310 - 12/31/01 11:55 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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ElPrimo writes: "There is no Pure Socialism or Pure Capitalist societies." Agreed. Nineteenth century America was the closest the world has ever seen to a Pure Capitalist society, but technically speaking it was still not quite PURE Capitalism. "The US has literally hundreds and thousands of socialist programs and many have worked quite well. Things such as the National Highway program and School funding." That's the problem. Two or three or even fifty out of thousands is a pretty shitty track record. "The problem with most idealogues is they don't have a wit of creative intelligence and as such must rely on absolute dogma.... It is not surprising to find so many conservatives are religious wackos..." Agreed. I have no respect for idealogues of any stripe. Right wing dogma is just as hollow as left wing dogma, and religious dogma is the most absurd of all. As an atheist and a proponent of individual rights, I find myself at odds with both the right and the left. "One is a Political System ....and the Other is an Economic system.. " Not quite true. Both are political systems. Obviously Pure Capitalism is strictly a political system. It CANNOT be labelled an economic system since the government is specifically FORBIDDEN to have anything whatsoever to do with the economy. In a Pure Capitalist society, every aspect of the economy is left entirely in the hands of private individuals. Those individuals are free to utilize any of myriad economic systems, from communal living to the barter system. But I must disagree that Socialism is strictly an economic system, since the government is inextricably involved with the economy. Socialism must therefore logically be classified as a political sytem, too. "...Something conservatives either don't understand or prefer to lie about so as to confuse the average individual. " I can't speak for conservatives, but anyone who claims that Capitalism is not a political system is confused. pinky
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