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 AIRDOG
 
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 Re: increasing psilosybin  [Re: Humidity]
#502396 - 12/27/01 12:19 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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mushrooms make psilocybin to rule over mankind, and its slowly taking over, now more homo sapiens grow these mushrooms incontrollably, and i doubt some psilocybes will be extinct while we are still here... what a mechanism for survival huh???
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 Humidity
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Re: increasing psilosybin [Re: AIRDOG]
#502402 - 12/27/01 12:26 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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Its too bad that this thread got polluted by all of this junk, because it started out as a normal conversation. Many of the replies do not even belong in the Advanced Cultivation Forum. Please go somewhere else if you are not serious about mushroom cultivation.
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Edited by Humidity (12/27/01 12:27 PM)
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nobbik
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Re: increasing psilosybin [Re: Humidity]
#504047 - 12/29/01 11:33 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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as i've said up top ... i think it was the first reply.
no.
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Tlaloc
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Re: increasing psilosybin [Re: srivatsa]
#511751 - 01/06/02 12:11 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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In reply to:
Posted by srivatsa (srivatsa)
Posted on 12/20/01 02:07 AM
I think these active plants and mushrooms were created with the use of them in mind.
I don't believe the darwin evolution. Where are all of the variations of species inbetween states of evolution? There is none. This is a bogus theory that should not be taught in schools.
omfg. go back to kindergarten. Have u not seen feathered non flying dinosaurs...early small eliphants,..etc.
my god man, compare yourself to your parents. E.V.O.L.U.T.I.O.N. Fucking evolution,
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yellowshark
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Re: increasing psilosybin [Re: Humidity]
#511844 - 01/06/02 01:46 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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So, if the optimal psilopsybin production conditions differ from the optimal growth conditions, what might they be?
Also, I thought I had read that enriching the substrate with psilopsybin precursers (like tryptamine HCL or N,N-DMT) would result in increased production.
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Humidity
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Re: increasing psilosybin [Re: yellowshark]
#512025 - 01/06/02 10:35 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes, I forgot to mention adding the right precursers to the substrate will increase potency. As far as the optimal psiloc(yb)in producing conditions, I have not found anything that gives exact conditions, but there is plenty of information on increasing secondary metabolites for industrial purposes (antibiotics, ect.) and every book that I have read said that optimal growth conditions are different than optimal metabolite conditions. Usually optimal metabolite production occures at temperatures less than optimal growth temperatures.
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mycofile
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Re: increasing psilosybin [Re: AlphaWave]
#517984 - 01/11/02 11:11 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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"Truth is, contrary to what ANYONE will tell you, is that nobody has any idea why shrooms produce psilos. Well, I guess a better way to put that is that EVERYBODY has an idea, but nobody has any reason to think that their idea is any better than anyone elses. "
I stick by what I said. The pepper tek was a mistake. Believe me, I lived through it, even tested because the original "discoverer" was so insistent on it's validity.
I don't think that I would consider psilos to be a "poison" as some put it. And I don't think they are a protective instrument. Why to slugs like to eat them? Why do racoons, mice and squirels eat them? Why do insects like flies and their larvae attack the mycelium as well as the fruitbodies? Try growing outdoors and then tell me that psilos are a protective mechanism.
And the anti-evolution stuff, oh, yeah, ok. Whatever makes you feel safe and secure in your idiology.....
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MeltingPenguin
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Re: increasing psilosybin [Re: Tlaloc]
#518125 - 01/12/02 03:00 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think these active plants and mushrooms were created with the use of them in mind.
I don't believe the darwin evolution. Where are all of the variations of species inbetween states of evolution? There is none. This is a bogus theory that should not be taught in schools.
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Zylo
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"I don't believe the darwin evolution. Where are all of the variations of species inbetween states of evolution? There is none. This is a bogus theory that should not be taught in schools. "
Again, will repeat the response given by most other people to this remark.
ah ah ah ah aha ha ha aha ha ahah ah ah,
Oh my god I can't believe you said that!! You have to be joking right? ha ah haa,
Variation in species? Are you totally unaware of how many Snake species there are? You do know there is more than 1 snake species right? Each species of snake has evolved to suit where it lives. And, you do know there are more than 1 type of elephant, tiger, ant, turtle, grasshopper, and every other animal species right? Even humans.... Have you not noticed Chinese people look different then us? Just an example here..... I'm sorry, your just plain stupid for saying that.
But, I will say this. God does NOT exist. There is zero SCIENTIFIC proof or evidence to say he does exist... But there is TONS of SCIENTIFIC proof provided that Darwins theory of Evolution is correct...
God = Blind Faith, No proof at all. It's basically a crap shoot if he's there or not 
Evolution = Hundreds of books, research, archaelogical and biological evidence. TONS of proof this is correct.
You had to have been kidding....
And I do apologize for talking about this on a mushroom cultivation board.. But that is just ridiculous.... What the hell made you say that anyhow to begin with?
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arkendave
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 Re: increasing psilosybin [Re: Zylo]
#542350 - 02/06/02 10:23 AM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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You people fight too much. Why don't you just ask the mushrooms about evolution. this topic is right up their alley. Some of the things I read makes me think you people don't even "know" the mushroom. (some of you)
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mr_minds_eye
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Re: increasing psilosybin [Re: Slamgauge]
#542541 - 02/06/02 01:24 PM (21 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would think that a group of people who supposedly are expanding their minds to some extent would be able to think outside the box a little more. We all ARE the result of "The Big Bang" and things do evolve/adapt. Does that mean that Darwin was entirely right? No, there isn't a single living being that I know of at least who knows everything. And even the truth can lead to misconceptions. The thing is just because something seems to be insignificant doesn't nessisarily mean that it is. I personaly think that everything happens for a reason. If you change one little thing you just might potentally alter everything. My point is that psilocybin/psilocin aren't just some "poisons" that just happens to be there. I would suggest that all of you read DMT The Spirit Molecule by Rick Strassman. Anyways I hope some one out there will tell us some kick ass working tek for making our mushies more potent
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