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OfflineMcdoopy
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Re: The Dream Idea [Re: ryanvergel]
    #4948893 - 11/17/05 08:49 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I had 2g of abort recently on 2hrs of sleep in 48 hrs... I'm sure the lack of sleep added to the experience..

Try it.

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Re: The Dream Idea [Re: ryanvergel]
    #4948908 - 11/17/05 08:51 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

heres what you do just around midnight or something go to bed and right before you about to fall a sleep eat some shrooms really quick and go back to bed
i want give it a try see if it work


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And ordered him to do the Dog
He wagged his tail and shook his head
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Re: The Dream Idea [Re: sunit]
    #4948916 - 11/17/05 08:53 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

you have obviously never tripped multiple days in a row grasshopper,
i dont give a fuck how tired you are, if you eat some mushrooms, youd better plan on staying up


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Re: The Dream Idea [Re: incubaby_421]
    #4948968 - 11/17/05 09:02 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

and it also sucks really bad to be super tired like 4 or 5 days without sleep and trip, all i can focus on is wanting so badly to go to sleep and not being able too, and i dont know if the affecs would be desirable, i wonder if some sleeping pills might do the trick, like pop 2 and wait 45 minutes and then pop a few vegi caps o' shroom


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"yet the more i dig, the more i consume, the more i unfold... the less protected i feel.
i am the spit on the hair of the son of an electron, swimming around the nucleus of a cell inside the sperm of a killer bee, and my purpose is as nebulous as why weve been bestowed with the capacity to give a shit" Brandon Boyd


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Re: The Dream Idea [Re: incubaby_421]
    #4949716 - 11/17/05 11:55 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

"You'll want to have them kick in during REM sleep, not before."

REM doesnt happen at one point of the night.

Sleep works in cycles, 90 minute ones.
First is 4 stages of Non REM sleep.
1
2
3
4
then counts back down
3
2
1
Then REM sleep.

Thats a 90 minute cycle, then it repeats. As the cycles go on, stages 1, 3 and 4 shorten, and stages 2 and REM get longer. Dreams are more likly to happen in the later part of your sleep, after the mushrooms wear off, as are lucid dreams, but lucid dreams can occur in ANY stage, not just REM sleep (all dreams can in fact, but especially lucid ones, they often spill into other stages).

It is also likly that like with alcohol, REM sleep will be inhibited, and hardly occur at all. Either way, I would guess it was no more likly that youd have dreams, possibly less..however I do think if you were to have dream, they would more likly be lucid, and more likly be interesting and more different then normal. Just a guess.


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Re: The Dream Idea [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4949799 - 11/18/05 12:24 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I say just try it out, then you can see for yourself if it's pleasant. You don't need to take a huge dose though. Let us know if someone does this.

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Re: The Dream Idea [Re: LiQuidSlim]
    #4951080 - 11/18/05 10:10 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Well, I haven't tripped on shrooms for over a year, but there was this one time I fell asleep after dosing....   
Took around 2-3gr in gel caps with a glass of water, and promptly fell asleep - for about 6 hours.... 
When I woke up, I was pissed because I had "missed my trip"....!   
I was in a good mood, but no effects to be noticed....   
I got up and went to the store to get some food and was back in about 45 minutes from waking up....   
And to my surprise, 10-15 minutes later my trip began....!?
Luckily I had nothing planned for the day....

I can't think of a logical explanation for this experience....!?
I am pretty sure that your stomach still works while you are sleeping.....
I have noticed an approximate 20 minute to 1 hour delay with gel caps, but not 6-7 hours....

Whooda~ thunk~ it...!?


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Re: The Dream Idea [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #4951101 - 11/18/05 10:14 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I have had up to 2-3 hours with gelcaps, if I ate before taking them.

Sleeping significantly slows down your digestion processes so that could also explain it..still a very long time to go without, I'd have expected them to kick in sooner.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay

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Re: The Dream Idea [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4951757 - 11/18/05 01:23 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

One could find a way to interrupt REM sleep for a while, inhibiting REM sleep will create the REM rebound effect, making the tendency or ability to fall into REM sleep much higher and faster.

I think this would make for an interesting psychological study. But yes, the only way I could personally do it is to keep myself up for a few days, and take gelcaps, and REM sleep should happen right around the times the shrooms start kicking in. It's very difficult to wake someone up during REM sleep, so you'd have to incude REM rebound to make sure that REM sleep was faster, happened for longer amounts of time, and was a bit deeper than normal. Then the effects could be right-on I think.


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