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 We're a plague 
#494442 - 12/18/01 01:22 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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I just wanted to know if any of you fully grasp the magnitude of our effect on this planet.
It has taken our mother earth eons to develope a complex system of interdependance in nature, and we have almost completely destroyed it in a mere few centuries.
Just thought you should know. If your not part of the solution, your part of the problem. Please don't take me down with you.
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 Re: We're a plague [Re: ArchDruid]
#494447 - 12/18/01 01:30 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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yes I fucking know. can you please tell me where I can sign up to be a part of the solution, cause I'm running out of ideas.
just thought you should know.
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Re: We're a plague [Re: Ulysees]
#494449 - 12/18/01 01:37 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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live natural man, don't waste shit, don't buy stuff that comes in plastic containers, grow it yourself, live natural.
easy to say I know, still, many of us are working on it - I assume you are too?
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Re: We're a plague [Re: Traveller]
#494459 - 12/18/01 01:56 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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it's not going so good. I don't know where the point of no return is, but if we haven't crossed it yet, we're fast approaching. and with no back-up plan I'm getting worried.
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Re: We're a plague [Re: Ulysees]
#494464 - 12/18/01 02:06 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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dude I reckon we need to forget about WE and cut it down to ME, what am I doing? it's one thing to think about evil corporations and starving people and wars and this and that and it seems like an impossibly big problem but really what if I just learn the skills necessary to live a simple natural life in a beautiful place (you know land and houses are actually really cheap the further you get from the cities?) and live out the rest of my days happily with some good folks? what's all this about points of no return? every point is one of no return is it not? where do you want to return to? maybe if you practice shroomisms time travel meditation it can be done but so far it seems to me that we can only go forwards, so rather than dream of things being the way they used to be let's WORK HARD and live well. maybe you haven't found them yet but there are actually a whole lot of really good people out there moving things in the right direction. good luck!
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Re: We're a plague [Re: Traveller]
#494467 - 12/18/01 02:08 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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no offense meant there shroomism, I count you as one of the good people mentioned in that last sentence.
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Re: We're a plague [Re: Traveller]
#494479 - 12/18/01 02:22 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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"Simplicity, Simplicity, Simplicity. Let your affairs be but two or three."
Use this, Thoreau, such a wise man.
I think that we have a small and fading window of opportunity to slow and stern the process of extinction that will undoubtedly occur. Be concerned with yourself and what you can do, not what other people are mixed up in. Because in my opinion the majority of the population is hopelessly lost in there own delusions never to return to a discernable reality.
Even if what we do to help has no lasting effect, atleast I know that when I'm on my death bed that I tried. To me the effort far outways the result.
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Re: We're a plague [Re: ArchDruid]
#494485 - 12/18/01 02:30 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cool. Let's kill ourselves. Er, everyone BUT ourselves.. or you. How come everybody who wants to trim the population expects to not be part of the trimming?
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Re: We're a plague [Re: Sclorch]
#494491 - 12/18/01 02:40 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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Very true, Very true.
It's a common human trait( however un-desirable ), to assume that whatever your belief that it above all other is right; that whatever your moral standings that everyone else is below you.
While I do appreciate your comment, who said anything about population trimming. If that is what you gathered from my statemants I apologize. I meant that most are lost and should be left to there hopelessness, because they are beyond help; not to say that they do not deserve to live. I think that no matter how detramental every human deserves the right to life. But that good souled people should be concerned with themselves and there brethren, not with the ramblings of a lost and quite mad modern society.
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 Re: We're a plague [Re: ArchDruid]
#494496 - 12/18/01 02:51 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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we are not a plague. we are not inherently evil. there is goodness, or the capacity for it in all human beings. in thoughtless action we deprive ourself of the beauty that may be found in achieving fortitude and strength of spirit. we may learn from our mistakes and we may not. this does not matter. live your life to the best capacity you can . if we deserve fire and brimstone- if you feel that way- then that is all you will ever achieve. do your best to be part of the bigger picture.
"you are as much a child of the universe as the trees and the stars"- the desiderata.
practise universal love. it is the only true emotion. all others are variations or corruptions.
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Re: We're a plague [Re: ArchDruid]
#494525 - 12/18/01 03:35 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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while I agree that most seem to be beyond help I am also constantly seeing these same people, lost, ignorant but inherently good, waking up to their own ignorance and slowly coming out of it. at the moment one new friend of mine, a young guy who has lived his entire life in Shibuya - perhaps the most crowded area of tokyo, completely overrun by fashion and marketing, image, plastic commercial hell - this young guy is waking up!! for the past two months he has been coming out, through understanding the songs of Bob Marley, meeting brazilian rastafarian capoeiristas, training capoeira, coming with me to festivals and meeting real people who know many many things, discovering the ancient wisdom of his own culture....this is truly wonderful!!! his mind is whirling non stop these days so much that last week he really thought he was going insane but he is now just so full, literally bursting with joy at the discovery of what life really is and how beautiful it can be...i feel blessed to be a witness, and an active part of this process.
never give up on the dream. all of us can live together in this beautiful universe, circling around the sun under the stars playing music....no one is too far gone. we can't shout this dream at people and expect them to listen, but when they see it all but a few realise at once that it is real.
i'm starting to spout nonsense here so i'll stop, but I really mean this and I think we need to keep this dream in mind instead of dwelling on the negativity.
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Re: We're a plague [Re: ArchDruid]
#494527 - 12/18/01 03:39 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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What the Hell are you talking about? We didn't do shit.
99.9% of the species that have lived on earth are extinct....we didn't kill them, hey just died. We may wipe out our selves, but it would be pretty silly to think we could actually hurt the earth.
It will be here long after us, and once where gone it will be as fine as it ever was.
everything is biodegradeable eventually, and if its not its geo-degradable, Magma and the Mantle will make short work of it.
save the earth? what a bunch of crap, the earth is fine, save humans is what people are really concered about, its utter selfishness
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 Re: We're a plague [Re: ArchDruid]
#494533 - 12/18/01 03:44 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think that its good that your concerned about our mother earth and want to help stop the harming of it. I am very interested in learning more about sience so I can understand more about how to help earth. I think that we need to realize that we have a future and we need to ask ourselves if we want to live it buy protecting our planet earth and get rid of the harmful automobiles that effect our earth with invisible gases that we can't see but are there slowly killing our earths beauty till some day it will be to late to bring back its animals and inhabitants. There are other was to get places and even other resources for a way to have power for vehicles like electricity and solar power. Its disapointing to see so many people now not careing very much about the concept that there is a ozone layer that will remain to depleat as long as we drive any carbon monoxide produceing vehicle. The problem I know can be fixed if we take care of it quickly buy elliminateing cars and find another method. This is just my view point.
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Re: We're a plague [Re: growalot]
#494534 - 12/18/01 03:46 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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The planet doesn't need help, we need help!
realizing this is the first step towards human presevation
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Re: We're a plague [Re: growalot]
#494536 - 12/18/01 03:49 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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By the way, O-zone depletion has nothing to do with Carbon dioxide, they're only realted by ways of the that's the green house effect.
O-zone depletion is cause by CFC's and other such chemicals....didn't you ever watch Captain Planet?
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Re: We're a plague [Re: ArchDruid]
#494538 - 12/18/01 03:56 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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What a load of shit
we have not almost completely destroyed the complex system of life on earth called nature.
MeltingPenguing is right. The earth is fine.
Edited by Kid (12/18/01 04:01 AM)
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I dont like to see people poluting the earth and shit, but I mostly agree with the Penguin on this one. At the rate we are going right now we will easily wipe out ourselves and everything else thats left alive before we hurt the earth. People need to quit worrying about mother nature so much and start doing possitive things for people.
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Re: We're a plague [Re: Kid]
#494555 - 12/18/01 04:38 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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While it is true that the earth will always be able to heal herself even long after were all gone. In my mind that does not excuse the injuries we have caused her. You must realize that "That which befalleth the earth befalleth the suns of the earth."
Traveler - your not rambling in the least, I admire your view of the inherint(sp?) good in all. I do agree with you, I simple meant to illustrate that we cannot force people to realize what many of us have realized, they need to find it on there own. We should try and guide the lost, but how much of our precious time on earth should be wasted on the lost I ask. If a person is shown the truth and does not recognise and change his life accordingly, then that person is lost and will never find his way. You can lead a person to water but you cannot force him to drink.
While I do agree that the damage to this planet would have happened anyway, the fact is that a schedule of deterioration(sp?) over millions of years that has been exhorbinantly(sp?) sped up by our ignorance and foolishness. So we are at fault.
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Who said anything about you haveing to agree with someone , where ever your getting your ideas from you should consider the fact that we wouldn't be here in the first place if it wasn't for our mother earth and yes I am an environmentalist. I don't want to wake up in a place with garbage floating down the sidewalks , I think our suroundings are a mirror of our selves.
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Re: We're a plague [Re: growalot]
#494569 - 12/18/01 05:22 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thats exactly right. Especially as americans what the hell knind of reflection should we be seeing. We use 90% of the worlds resources and contribute 5%. Sickening.
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Re: We're a plague [Re: ArchDruid]
#494594 - 12/18/01 06:53 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think its too late anyway. I mean even if we started living naturaly (which wont happen) it would take over 100 years to make the transition. Simply because too many people are used to how it is now and wont want to change. And a large change like that would probably take forever.
On top of that, what about all the landfills on the earth? How long would it take before all the garbage that is already there to decompose? Probably a long time. I think that if the earth was in trouble we'd already be screwed and it'd be too late to do anything.
You may not agree with this but I think the nature has its own way of regulating our population (since the earth is overpopulated) But nature came up with AIDs to regulate it. I mean think of it. The way the HIV virus works is amazing. Its a sexualy transmitted disease (everyone has sex) and the make up of it changes all the time so the body has no way of fighting it and neither do the scientists. I think within the next 10 years theres going to be alot more people dying from AIDs.
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the earth will cleanse itself in time.
just give it time.
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I agree that the Earth couldn't care less if we are here screwing things up. She'll find a way to heal herself, that's not the problem. Nuclear waste is just as much part of the Earth as green grass and bunny rabbits. However, while the Earth is ambivalent, we aren't. If we fill up the Earth with our garbage and our pollution and our nuclear waste, its not going to be a very nice place for us to live. If we keep going in the direction we are now we'll surely end up killing ourselves before too long. Again, this matters little to mother Earth. If we are going to return to a more natural way of living, it is strictly to save our own asses, not for any other reason.
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First: There are already many many many (don't know the exact number) people dying from aids. I haven't looked too deeply into this problem, but from what I know Africa is suffering an aids epidemic right now.
Second: I, an individual, can do almost nothing to stop the planets plight. "Humanity" is the plauge, not me, not you. Humanity as it stands today is acting in a far greater way than the sum of its parts. Humanity is a machine spawning machines and no one human truely knows humanities impact. Some understand, but none know, for the machine is too large to be perceived by humans. It took humanity to create the beast, and nothing short of humanity will stop it. At this point I do not see humanity ever stopping it, for we've evolved a symbiotic relationship with this creature, we need it, and it needs us. The creature promises us freedom from nature, but all we recieve is a perversion of nature.
There is no going back for humanity. There is no way to cripple the machine without crippling humanity. There is no way back.
Perhaps humanity will never truely destroy the earth, but humanity can in fact make it uninhabitble for advanced life. And we're on our way to doing just that. Pessimistic? Yes, of course. Realistic? I'm not sure. Possible? Definately.
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Re: We're a plague [Re: Ulysees]
#495064 - 12/18/01 04:49 PM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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>> can you please tell me where I can sign up to be a part of the solution
Sign up here. Have fun.
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The penguin is right. The earth does not need to heal itself. There has been no damage done to it. How is it polluting the earth by burning fossil fuels? The carbon dioxide was already in the atmosphere, then it got incorporated into some organism that died, that turned to goo, that we burned to put the carbond dioxide back into the air. We can't pollute the earth with things that already exist on and in it.
The earth is not harmed one bit by anything we do, only people and some other living creatures are harmed. Owell, more will evolve, and go extinct, its the nature of the world. Hell if anything we are helping the earth. We are untying many elements and compounds from there bio prisons (aka coal, trees, people) I personally can't wait until the "end" as some call it, is here. When this civilization comes to an end, and it will, they have all come to an end. I am not one to say "down with everyone but me". Im gonna die, I just hope one day my dreams of no humans or very few (200 or so) come true. I'd love to see it, but eh. As long is it happens I don't care whether I'm alive or not. I just don't like people as a whole. Damn shaved apes.
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Re: We're a plague [Re: Traveller]
#495112 - 12/18/01 05:43 PM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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>>live natural man, don't waste shit, don't buy stuff that
>>comes in plastic containers, grow it yourself, live natural.
What's your computer made out of? Huh.... funny aint it?
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Re: We're a plague [Re: MokshaMan]
#495159 - 12/18/01 06:32 PM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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Though I've already subscribed to this idea (for more reasons than one), I'm happy to see there's a movement in place dedicated to it.
There're already enough children on this planet. If you want one, you might as well adopt. In animal breeding circles, you are pretty much looked at as evil if you breed without adopting. There're so many animals out there suffering and whatnot that these people really care, and are really pressuring to make a difference.
In the human breeding circle however, there are no such feelings. Despite the world being overrun with starving babies, we feel that we need to keep bringing more and more into the fray.
I like this idea so much, not only have I decided not to have any children (if I want one or two I will adopt) I have also decided to kill Luigi. Good bye old friend, you will be missed.
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again you say you don't think WE will start living naturally....well I know I will, and I know many people that are.
so there. enough of this unstoppable plague unsolvable problem past the point of no return doom death and destruction crap!!! the earth is still a fantastically beautiful planet and I plan to enjoy living on it.
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Re: We're a plague [Re: Ulysees]
#495542 - 12/19/01 12:35 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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BAH!!!!
what you're saying may be true in many ways but fuck!!! you as an individual have the power to live in harmony, in communion with all forms of life on this planet. in mountains, by the sea, in a desert somewhere, in alaska new zealand peru brazil africa america ANYWHERE there are loads of these places and if you learn to live naturally in any place like this then aren't you doing something? YES! you are MOVING in the right direction and you can never move like this by yourself, so therefore others will be moving with you, and others with them, and then maybe i'll meet you one day somewhere and we can rejoice and celebrate for we are blessed beyond measure to be living this life.
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Re: We're a plague [Re: Traveller]
#495546 - 12/19/01 12:40 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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http://www.earthship.org/
this is the type of house i'm going to build after i finish college. My girlfrineds is an expert on the subject, she desinged one already. This summer i'm going to new mexico to learn how to make them
and of course i'll have a special grow room ;-)
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Not natural? We are nature, we live in nature, what we do is what we do. I agee though, cause what we will do can be nice :> I hate to think of it like What will it be like for my grandkids. Cause i dont want kids right now, and uhh im selfish....Maybe something that will comfort you better is "What if i get reincarnated" where will you be living?
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I just read someone post on not beign able to hurt the earth more, and i agree. I mean we can try to live naturally, like humands did not exist, but if you want to, kill yourself, end existance, that may help. However we do exist, and if we want to live, live like we were plants or some shit and not evolve, not push the envelope, fuuucckk. I agree that maybe we will run out of shit, but hell im sure we can find some technology. I wouldnt mind becoming 99% robot, i coudl replace my brain with a new chip...they would both be sets of processing instructions, i wouldnt mind an upgrade. Lets all eat oil, not food.
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Re: We're a plague [Re: tak]
#495566 - 12/19/01 01:15 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've been reccomending this book here and there, so I don't want anyone to think I'm a Ray Kurzweil cyborg cultist, but if you want to read some cool things pertaining to the new evolution, that being the evolution of computers and technology, good technologies, you should check out The Age of Spiritual Machines by Ray Kurzweil. This guy's pretty brilliant, not just as a philosopher or prophet (read into that whatever you will) but as a scientist and inventor.
Check it out, it's very interesting, and written in such a way to rarely bog down even the shortest attention spans.
I don't know if any of you enjoy the band "Our Lady Peace" but they're not too bad and they did a sort of concept album based on the book, though it's based pretty loosely...
It's called Spiritual Machines I believe. It's pretty good if you're depressed or whatever, though you might think it's a little lame depending on your tastes. (I actually enjoy it quite a bit, but don't judge me on that, if you're the judgmental type.)
tak- you'll probably find more "joy" in this book than you will trying to revert to nature.
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Re: We're a plague [Re: Ulysees]
#495570 - 12/19/01 01:30 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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i find joy in masturbating, however i will check out the book, sounds nice because i happend to have a short attention span, suprise! :P Well i got 2 hands, and only need my eyes for one of them. Thanks mate.
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Re: We're a plague [Re: Traveller]
#495580 - 12/19/01 01:45 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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Traveller you are a good souls sir and I commend you.
We should rejoice togather everyday as a creed, and do no more harm to that which gave us life. Talk about ungrateful, by the way.
Yes we are blessed to be living this life, more so than most appreciate.That is why we are in the state of affairs that were in. No appreciation for the simplicities.
Yes there are still some places of refuge from the horde. But they are dwindling fast. I do plan on taking advantage while there here, but am internally saddened because they will not last long. I do not want to do it alone either, I hope to be joined by all you good souls out there.
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Re: We're a plague [Re: ArchDruid]
#495585 - 12/19/01 01:50 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would like to help, i try individually, however i feel that is not enough. I have plenty of faults though, and maybe that is the part of me that feels its not enough, cause i am not doing what i say. Maybe i should go live in hte mountains. If anyone wants to take a trip, ill go with them :>
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ArchDruid
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Registered: 02/08/01
Posts: 268
Loc: Oregon
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Re: We're a plague [Re: tak]
#495592 - 12/19/01 01:59 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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By even recognising(sp?) that you should be doing something your atleast on the right path. That means that you care, and in that your far ahead of alot of others.
Everyone has faults it's the ability to recognise(sp?) them and conquer them that makes one great.
You really should practice what you preach though. Otherwise thats a loss of integrity, I feel that should be your first indevor.
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" I have decided to become an example for others, although I have never been one for moderation. I have decided never to eat LSD while asleep, never to refrain while awake, and to never eat less than 10 hits at a time."
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Ulysees
Power of Lard
Registered: 10/06/01
Posts: 5,060
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Re: We're a plague [Re: ArchDruid]
#495594 - 12/19/01 02:10 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes, I am a bad soul... hehe
Do you spend your waking hours worshiping your mother? The one that carried you in her womb and then birthed you screaming into this world? Do you while away your days sitting in her lap while she nurses you?
Mothers are meant to nurture a child until the child is old enough to take care of itself, and eventually take care of the mother. To live off the mother is not taking care of the mother, to take care of the mother is to heal the mother, or at least, to ease the pain of her lifelong burdens. Everything must pass, and so shall our mother, and so shall we perhaps, but no mother wants to outlive her child. Our mother will pass one way or the other, wether by our hand or not, so what's wrong with growing up, and moving on? When the earth is destroyed, I hope there are humans who outlast her, humans who can carry on her legacy. Perhaps humans who take some reminders of the earth with them, an Ark if you will.
Perhaps it won't be humanity as we know it, or even evolved life as we know it, perhaps we will perish before the legacy is fulfilled. Why would this make me happy? Tell me why this would make you happy. Do you liken us to the retarded child of the earth? If your child was retarded would you sacrfice it as an inconvieniance? We may be flawed and blind, but we have potential. Don't look to our masses for hope, look to our brightest, our best. The weak invaribly will be left behind, and that is a shame, but don't take your joy, your hope from that dream. That is above all others a sinister dream, and to hold it renders you less than those you hate.
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missulena
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Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 251
Last seen: 22 years, 7 months
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Re: We're a plague [Re: Ulysees]
#512310 - 01/06/02 05:23 PM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ive said this before but it is important. I am not responsible for others actions, political correctness would have us believe that we are all clones all identical and are all responsible for the way the world is today but its not true at all, i had less of a part than most of the population, we must learn to discriminate again against those that are killing natural eco-systems
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