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Re: Apperson [Re: coda]
    #4940201 - 11/16/05 01:05 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Apperson [Re: coda]
    #4940202 - 11/16/05 01:05 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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that wasn't pickards first lab dude :wink:




Yeah biO, you're just thinking that the thousands of potential hits the feds caught him with that never made it out or something.



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Leary- You could be right, i know he ratted on someone (and i could have sworn it was LSD cooks), but im foggy right now on who.  Still, im a firm believer in taking one for the team so to speak.  Why drag others down for your mistakes, it doesnt make sense in any application of the phrase.  Regardless of whether or not people go to jail, if you fuck up, man up.  period. :smile:




Absolutely.  There's no excuse for narcing.  I do however think he should be applauded for creating all of that acid.







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Re: Apperson [Re: Learyfan]
    #4940228 - 11/16/05 01:16 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

and i agree, like i said, anyone who produces quality LSD for the right reasons should be revered.  I did some digging and searched through some of china's posts that i have bookmarked (<3) 

taken from LSD Crystal to Blotter


Pickard was family many years ago. He has been busted for manufacturing 3 times. On his second bust he ran his mouth to the feds about other drug activity within the scene resulting in several people getting prison time. After that he was shunned and nobody in the family would work for him. That is why he had to work with such shady people in Kansas. Had he been working with family he wouldn't be going to serve a lifetime prison sentance, he wouldn't have been busted at all. On his second bust instead of bitting the billet and keeping his mouth shut like Sand, Scully, and Owsely, he chose to make a deal. Many years later now he is going to prison for life because he was betrayed in the same way. Karma can be a bitch, I know from experiance.

I do hope that Pickard can get out of prison before his life ends. He has a new kid that was just born and a new wife. He has done a great service to man by making LSD. I would hope that after a few years he can get released and live his remaining years with his new family. I doubt he will be so lucky though.
Even though somebody who narcs to save there ass is lower than scum in my book, I can't wish anybody to be in prison for a nonviolent drug charge.

If there would be a mans word to trust on this issue it would be chinacat's.  He doesnt specifically mention who gets busted, but my reading between the lines indicates LSD.  I could be wrong, but thats just what it feels like.  It does suck he's in jail, and that no new people will experience his LSD, but he just shouldnt have narced.  Such a shame.

LSD is like a cockroach, even after a nuclear war its still going to be around :wink: hehe If it goes into hiding for a while it sucks, but maybe its for the better, sometimes you truly dont know what you have til its gone, then when you get it back its all the much sweeter.  Lucy, where are you? :smile:


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Re: Apperson [Re: coda]
    #4940231 - 11/16/05 01:17 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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im sure someone out there who doesnt dose a lot may have some. But id say it'd be a rare find.




Yeah, and I don't know how you could verify for sure that it was his. It could have been family acid or some other chemist's batch.

I remember a story on here a while back about some guy who got busted by the cops for having some OLD psilocybin pills that he had just kept as a collectors item. I think it was Sandoz, too.









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Re: Apperson [Re: Learyfan]
    #4940238 - 11/16/05 01:20 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

is psilocybila the name of the pill, or just a fuck up on psilocybin?


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Re: Apperson [Re: coda]
    #4940241 - 11/16/05 01:21 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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If there would be a mans word to trust on this issue it would be chinacat's. He doesnt specifically mention who gets busted, but my reading between the lines indicates LSD.




I think that I remember him elaborating on this. I believe he said that Pickard narc'ed on meth chemists and justifiably, no family member would work with him after that just for the fact that he had narc'ed at all.







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Re: Apperson [Re: Learyfan]
    #4940246 - 11/16/05 01:23 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

well right on man, thats the post that i had remembered it from. Like i said, im not sure 100%, and im guessing if you read it through one of his posts then its most definitely true.


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Re: Apperson [Re: coda]
    #4940256 - 11/16/05 01:27 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

That's if my memory serves me correct.  :wink: 

If it doesn't then I've been walking around with a higher opinion of this man then I should.  Someone will know for sure.







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Re: Apperson [Re: Learyfan]
    #4940260 - 11/16/05 01:28 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

man i wonder how diluted that ampule of LSD liquid is.  And i definitely love the comparison of "legitimate" to "illegitimate". To me that says "this is the way its supposed to be" to "the crap that gets pushed on the street" :laugh:


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Re: Apperson [Re: coda]
    #4940312 - 11/16/05 01:55 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Yes yes yes...it was awful what he did. John Bonham is going to eat his soul when he dies.

On the other hand...he did society a great favor with his work.

Besides family that are here...how many of you have even seen/known the name of a recent LSD chemist? Well heres one right here.


And leary...I guess I had Pickard/Apperson mixed up. Oops, and sorry.

Narcing is completely unacceptable, but meth and LSD differ greatly. I honestly believe meth has no chance at changing the world.

If anyone else has any factual evidence on this...please chime in!

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Re: Apperson [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #4940525 - 11/16/05 06:53 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I just dont understand why someone would cook in the US. I mean, if you can get the necessary precursors HERE, surely you could get them in Bumfuck, Canada. And acid has to be one of the easiest chems to smuggle across the border. Especially THAT border....

Setting up in an abandoned missile silo in Kansas just does not seem like a smart career move....


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Re: Apperson [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #4940906 - 11/16/05 09:45 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

actually its pretty damn impossible to find precursors for LSD in the US.


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Re: Apperson [Re: coda]
    #4941330 - 11/16/05 11:33 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Thats what I'm saying. They're nearly impossible to get here, but he had the hook-ups to do that. So why go through the risk of a life sentence making acid here, when you could make it in another country and smuggle into the US, thereby protecting yourself from alot of the risk...


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He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: Apperson [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #4942288 - 11/16/05 04:18 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

im pretty positive you'd have to travel to other places besides canada to acquire some precursors, even so, he didnt get busted because of the govt. He got fucked over by shady people in his op. Like china said in my quote, had he been working with family he wouldnt be in jail right now. Yes our govt fucks you for synthing LSD. im pretty sure if he got busted in canada he'd face some pretty heavy sentencing as well.


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i really am glad you came back to us instead of taking the other path. *hug*

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Re: Apperson [Re: coda]
    #4942420 - 11/16/05 04:42 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

plus if he got busted prior to this and had a criminal record.... moving out of country may have set up a red flag that he was making more acid.


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Re: Apperson [Re: leery11]
    #4944366 - 11/16/05 10:44 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I think that synthesizing your LSD in Canada would be much smarter than doing it in the US. Not just because you would probably get a more lenient sentence if you got busted, but because Canada doesn't quite have the hard on for it that the US does. The US government will never forget the problems that the hippies gave them about Vietnam, etc..








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