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Qi Gong/Abdominal Breathing
    #493890 - 12/17/01 03:32 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Most of the books I've read on meditation and Qi Gong say that you should breath into your abdomen instead of you chest, but I feel like I can take in more air when my chest expands. Is it just because I'm not used to breathing into my abdomen, or is abdominal breathing more effective even though you take in less air?



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Re: Qi Gong/Abdominal Breathing [Re: Shogun]
    #493939 - 12/17/01 04:25 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

it seems like you take in less air at first but that is because your diapraghm is underdeveloped. with practice this muscle will become stretched and very strong and you will get a nice pot belly that contracts into a rock hard six pack when you tense it.


an excellent excercise is three part breathing: inhale into your abdomen, then your chest, then throat (inhale as much as you can and then practice inhaling even more in the area around your throat...(this takes some practice with some people but you will get it) then breathe out slowly in the same order - abdomen, chest, throat....this is one method of yogic breathing. a lot of qi gong comes from the chinese martial arts and therefore involves strong abdominal breathing which is necessary for striking with power but apparently not necessary for excellent health. the yogic three part breathing method is great for breathing but not so good for martial arts sinice breathing into the higher areas of the chest raises your centre of gravity making it very easy to lose your balance.


oh and normal "deep breathing" in the chest actually creates a lot of tension in the chest and shoulders, raises the heart rate and excites the mind, all things you want to avoid in qi gong or meditation.


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Re: Qi Gong/Abdominal Breathing [Re: Shogun]
    #493946 - 12/17/01 04:30 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

The idea is to have the abdomen expand more than the chest on the inhale.. pulling the air effortlessly very deep into the lungs. You should be able to take in more air through abdominal breathing. It is very relaxing.


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Re: Qi Gong/Abdominal Breathing [Re: ]
    #494287 - 12/17/01 09:58 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Shroomism, would you recommend performing sitting meditation before or after Qi Gong practice?


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Re: Qi Gong/Abdominal Breathing [Re: Shogun]
    #494300 - 12/17/01 10:10 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Yes...and keep the spine straight. Breathe deep, deep into the lungs. Like the pulling in of the air is coming from the stomach, under the lungs.


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Re: Qi Gong/Abdominal Breathing [Re: Shogun]
    #494456 - 12/18/01 01:49 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

try both! if you sit before your qigong (are you talking about standing qigong here?) your qigong practice will be much better, and if you sit after your qigong practice your meditation experience will be different!

generally though it is good to start with perfect stillness first thing in the morning (and last thing before lying down to sleep), then warm up a little bit (if you're learning qigong then presumably you've learned some good whole-body stretching routines), then stand still, and then move on to more dynamic excercises.


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