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What keeps happening to the mods in the "smart" forums?
    #4934015 - 11/14/05 07:22 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Seriously. Cervantes got all huffy about something and he resigned as a Politics mod and Phred is no longer a mod in this forum it appears.

Sorry if this thread is a little too "OTD-ish" for this forum, but I am really curious why mods drop like flies in the brainy forums.

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Re: What keeps happening to the mods in the "smart" forums? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4934040 - 11/14/05 07:27 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Phred isn't a mod anymore? Didn't know that.

You would have to ask them why they quit.

"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: What keeps happening to the mods in the "smart" forums? [Re: Icelander]
    #4934226 - 11/14/05 08:10 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

These forums are cursed with a dark spell set in place by an evil warlock eons ago.


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Re: What keeps happening to the mods in the "smart" forums? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4934243 - 11/14/05 08:14 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I filled in here for a short time at the request of management until the two forums had been separated and a team of at least three moderators had been assigned to each.

Since Shroomism, Annom, and Phluck are all seasoned veteran mods, there is no need for a permanent fourth mod in this forum, so I asked to be released from my temporary duty. No mystery, nothing dark and devious about it.



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Re: What keeps happening to the mods in the "smart" forums? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4935333 - 11/14/05 11:42 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

And I told you why I am no longer a Mod, in your thread, in PA&L.

Cervantes said:
Here's the scoop, from my corner.

I quit because of politics in another forum, which I could not discuss in public, as a Mod... not honestly... not at all.

Phred and Rono have BOTH been close to the SAME type of Modship breaking point as I... on different occasions, and I did everything I could, even verbally fence MULTIPLE Admins at once, to help them, once again, feel secure in their jobs... and to KEEP THEM BOTH AROUND AS MODS.

In my case, both Phred and Rono, and most all of my other Staff friends, made it obvious that I had let them down. I spoke up publicly in OPPOSITION to The Staff, about the baseless (and seriously FLAWED) ban, of Swami, a veteran Shroomery Member... as well as a PA&L regular.

I was scolded privately, by The Staff (and practically EVERY one of my friends), for my public honesty.

You see, I broke a rule, Mods aren't allowed to PUBLICLY disagree with OTHER Mods or Admins... even when The Staff is LYING... and plans to ban someone, a LONG TIME MEMBER, for breaking NO RULES.

Aparently, BIAS BANS, are within the Shroomery rules, but disagreeing with them in public, as a Mod, is not.

I can see why Phred and Rono were disappointed by my actions, as with my friends Wiccan, Shirl, Ripple, geo... etc... but I kinda' thought SOMEONE in there would stand up for ME (even if they didn't agree with my crusade).

Since I WAS being honest... and I stood up for SO many of them in the past... I thought they'd TRUST me this once, when I decided, despite Staff CODE, that HONESTY was a better policy than premeditated BIAS... no such luck.

I HAD to step down, in order to STOP the public cover-up of this BIASED Moderation tactic; as a Mod, I would be breaking rules... and the Staff would have NONE of THAT. Yet, I would NOT remain silent... so, I QUIT, to be HONEST in PUBLIC... and STILL be safe, WITHIN the rules. At least, until this issue is fixed.

So, I became a regular citizen, and took my story to the public. In the process, MUCH of The Staff began to villianize me, which was NOT my intent... nor their desire, I imagine. Yet it happened. Hurts to think about, to this day.

I did not anticipate SO many of my friends, thinking I had turned on them, once I stepped down, and went public. That said, NONE of those friends has called me a liar, during this WHOLE situation. That, at least, is comforting.

I'd love to be a Mod again in here, but don't hold your breath. The Staff seems to think I am too evil... or something... for being honest to THIS COMMUNITY... er... to... "Stop the spread of misinformation"... besides, I made the mistake of ASKING for my job back... :wink:

Also, the problems with BIAS, and HONESTY, that caused me to quit, remain unsolved. So, it would be a little silly for me to wear green again, at this time, anyway. No?

I am disheartened by the Staff's lack of action. If they wanted me back, they'd have tried accomidating me by now. It may well be a lost cause. I mean hell, I supported... SWAMI!

In conclusion, let me say, I have the DEEPEST respect for the three Moderators of this forum. This forum is in VERY good hands. They have ALL been there for me since I started at this website... except that ONE, critical time.

I trust their opinions enough, to know it was time for me to step down... for they could no longer trust me, and THAT hurts me more than I wish to express, in here. Mods must trust their fellow Mods.

I couldn't work with a group who supported biased bans of veteran members who broke no rules, anyway... so the trust issue goes BOTH ways... no hard feelings... really, just hurt ones...

...although I'd be lying if I didn't say this is a FUCKED UP situation!

Thanks everybody for the wonderful experience I've had here, in PA&L. I LOVE this forum... I'm going nowhere. Although, I've been busy as hell, the last few months... and haven't been here as often as I'd like.

All I seem to be able to do now, is tell my story, and get chided by my friends.... who don't seem to realize what a HUGE part of my life, I gave up, to help FIX this UNSOLVED problem. It hurts me, that the problem persists to this DAY, and that my stepping down, may have actually SEALED THE COFFIN on UNJUST BANS.

The Staff seems to think I am being vindictive, with posts like this, really though, I just feel alone... and a bit empty. I gave up my Modship, told the TRUTH, alienated dear friends, and the bias still exists.

To be fair, IME, The Shroomery Staff is USUALLY very open and honest. In fact, aside from REPEATED baseless bannings of ONE MEMBER, Swami (A tradition which sadly, has been going on for a YEAR, really.)... and mistreatment those who questioned Swami's bans... The Staff follows the rules, OR APOLOGIZES every time they realize they've fucked up. For the MOST part, this Staff does a FIRST RATE job. I've seen it first hand. Is it any wonder I spoke up, when The Staff decided to start banning, "Annoying" Veterans who break no rules? Is it any wonder I feel betrayed, when I'm chided for my honesty?

For more info, use the search function please, as I will not discuss specific details further, in this forum. WAY too off topic.

See you around,


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