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Helltick
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Dry dog food.
#4931758 - 11/14/05 09:46 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Does the dry dog food method work with dunk-tek or does it have to be injected into the cake? And how well does it work? Thanks.
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Helltick]
#4931776 - 11/14/05 09:52 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dry dog food? New to me...
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Mcdoopy]
#4931785 - 11/14/05 09:57 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Helltick]
#4931893 - 11/14/05 10:39 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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What I gather by reading that is dunking would work too. As long as it's 10% of the water of your dunk. Never tried it, so couldn't tell you. Seems logical though...
Let us know how it works!
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Helltick]
#4933451 - 11/14/05 05:39 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wonder if WBS could replace the dog food? Its just the nutes/moisture were after right? I've searched google upside down and read that dextrose is used in pet food (dry dog food) for example.
Does WBS contain dextrose? The articles I've read on the topic just say pet food and not what kind of pet.
Do you think adding 10% dextrose to a dunk would increase potency since a better nute is now available as opposed to just the exhausted BRF nutes?
Please dont bite head off...just starting all this.
Thanks.
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Helltick]
#4933700 - 11/14/05 06:29 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I ground up some puppy chow(tek I read 2 yr's ago) and added to cakes(abt 5%) as making the 1/2 pt. jars. More nutrients.Got more weight but didn't do it enough to know if it really help. Went to horse poo and never looked back. Never tried injecting or dunking.Would think with out PCing you could be adding contams.
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Helltick
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: KaptKid]
#4933845 - 11/14/05 06:51 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks, I'm not grinding up the "puppy chow" and adding to the original mix...rather boiling it and simmering for an hour discarding the dog food and using just the remaining fluid in the pot...Then adding 1 part of this solution to 9 parts of water...then dunking my colonized BRF cakes for 15 hours prior to introducing to FC for the first flush.
I imagine the myc growth pretty much sucks the life (nutes) out of the cakes even before the first flush?
Anyway, does anyone know if dextrose is a leading factor on the final shroom potency?
Thanks.
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Helltick]
#4933867 - 11/14/05 06:54 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dextrose is a nute. If your doing PF cakes they're only going to be as potent as a cube really can be... If you want to maximize that, go to poo. If you want even more forget cubes and move up to Psilocybe azurescens or cyanescens...
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Mcdoopy]
#4933972 - 11/14/05 07:15 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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If your doing PF cakes they're only going to be as potent as a cube really can be
Thankyou...So does this mean that cube inoculated PF cakes will be as "effective" as they would be in the wild?
The active ingredient in horse shit is just nitrogen...Can I not just add liquid nitrogen to the "dunk-water" and expect the same results as far as quantity/potency from BRF cakes if done prior to first flush?
Thanks.
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Helltick]
#4934071 - 11/14/05 07:33 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Helltick]
#4934171 - 11/14/05 07:59 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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They strive for optimal conditions. Whether or not it happens there isn't a MAJOR difference. The thing with poo is, it more resembles nature, the way they were meant to grow. There is more to poo than just the nitrogen. If you research it a bit, you'll see what I mean. Both quantity and potency wise.
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Mcdoopy]
#4934249 - 11/14/05 08:16 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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musher_420
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And another my friend http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post4532477
I always found that to be a good read. I don't know why it's not in the substrate archive.
Edited by musher_420 (11/14/05 08:20 PM)
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To all the above advice ->
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Helltick
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OK...thats nice. But it just seems as nitrogen and sugar are the key...even with several flushed (dead) brf cakes or others. Thankyou for your time.
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Helltick]
#4934811 - 11/14/05 09:57 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Helltick said: OK...thats nice. But it just seems as nitrogen and sugar are the key...even with several flushed (dead) brf cakes or others. Thankyou for your time.
The REAL key is poo...
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Mcdoopy]
#4934824 - 11/14/05 09:59 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why can you not simulate poo?
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Mcdoopy]
#4934826 - 11/14/05 09:59 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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HAHA Doopy..lmao! You're stuck on poo before you've even done it!
Shit makes me laugh, although you're right! Poo is GOOD! I like it, I like it alot
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I'm baked
but I sure do love poo
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Mcdoopy]
#4934877 - 11/14/05 10:11 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm sorry guys...I am just having a really hard time understanding why in this day of age we cant replicate horse shit with something that comes in a bottle,tablet,or bag of some kind.
And No...I dont mean a bag of tenstud.
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Edited by Helltick (11/14/05 10:12 PM)
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Helltick]
#4934907 - 11/14/05 10:17 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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DID YOU READ THE FUCKING LINKS I FOUND YOU...I'm sorry but your reply comes off VERY rude. You can do your own searching from now on.
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Helltick
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Sorry Dude..didnt mean to piss you off.
And yes I red your links...Thanks for that.
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Edited by Helltick (11/14/05 10:24 PM)
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Helltick]
#4934941 - 11/14/05 10:23 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Helltick said: Why can you not simulate poo?
It's like data from star trek. We both know he wasn't a human, even though he simulates one.
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Mcdoopy]
#4934955 - 11/14/05 10:26 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mcdoopy said:
Quote:
Helltick said: Why can you not simulate poo?
It's like data from star trek. We both know he wasn't a human, even though he simulates one.
Fuckin pothead...you and your stoned analogies..
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Mcdoopy]
#4934964 - 11/14/05 10:27 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sorry.. I could have taking that a little the wrong way. Nice analogy Doop. Well can you create microscopic organisms? And can you simulate amino acids? I sure can't just luckily I can just go find a SHIT LOAD of them for free in a big pile of SHIT.. Sugar and minerals are not all of what its about. Are you thinking PLANTS? We are talking Fungi here. Think Protein..
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Mcdoopy]
#4934967 - 11/14/05 10:28 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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What...data is not human?
Okay..guess I just start looking into poo.
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(this one's for you!)
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Mcdoopy]
#4935012 - 11/14/05 10:36 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hpoo contains beneficial bacteria called 'FireFang'...this can't be created..
Hey Doops:
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Mcdoopy
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MMM... gotta love that 'FireFang'
(this one too)
Edited by Mcdoopy (11/14/05 10:38 PM)
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Helltick]
#4935327 - 11/14/05 11:40 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Helltick,I understand what your looking for.Maybe try advan. cult. Here horse poo is king, next to compost. Takes longer to make.There should be some way to synthetically make horse poo are something close to it. Again time equipment,testing and the people who like to do this kind of thing. Man don't stop wanting to experiment you never know what you may stumble upon.
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: KaptKid]
#4935353 - 11/14/05 11:47 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll smoke to that Kapt!
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Mcdoopy]
#4935362 - 11/14/05 11:49 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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As you venture off into the world of drugs always keep one thing in mind: natural is always better than synthetic
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Mcdoopy]
#4935367 - 11/14/05 11:50 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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You'll smoke to anything...(yes I'm still on
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Damn *cough* right!
Edited by Mcdoopy (11/15/05 12:01 AM)
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Helltick]
#4936079 - 11/15/05 04:52 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Helltick said: I'm sorry guys...I am just having a really hard time understanding why in this day of age we cant replicate horse shit with something that comes in a bottle,tablet,or bag of some kind.
And No...I dont mean a bag of tenstud.
lets start with expense, I'm sure synthesizing some thing thats usualy a free waste product would be a little too costly
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Re: Dry dog food. [Re: Helltick]
#4936157 - 11/15/05 06:47 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: Dog food ran its course
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