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japanese green tea tek experiment
    #492717 - 12/16/01 10:55 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I'm on an interesting experiment now, i usually drink a lot of japanese green tea and i wanted to recycle it naturally...
So i 'm trying it as a substrate with Tasmanian strain.
After PC the tea ( a tea i have drinked before ) i inoculed with colonized agar ... it grows very fast ! Looked like big buds ... What i want to experiment is if it will be a good substrate for fruiting ...let's see. If yes, i will never buy any other substrate because i drink green tea every day ! I don't know if it could work with black tea but i'm sure the nutrients are more interesting in the green tea, chinese or japanese. Did someone here ever tried this substrate ? Would it works for Pans...after all it's like a kind of straw isn't it ?
Please give some feedback for this experiment, it's interesting and i would like to see other people trying it to compare ...
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Re: japanese green tea tek experiment [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #492857 - 12/16/01 02:48 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: japanese green tea tek experiment [Re: puscle]
    #492987 - 12/16/01 04:57 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Huuuk !!! It's the first time a salmon tell me such thing ...
No, why ?


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Re: japanese green tea tek experiment [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #493595 - 12/17/01 08:26 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

hm... nobody tried tea substrate before ?!


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Re: japanese green tea tek experiment [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #493599 - 12/17/01 08:34 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

nope, but how's the progress? are you going to try another strain?


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Re: japanese green tea tek experiment [Re: felix]
    #493608 - 12/17/01 08:58 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I'm going to try it with gulf coast and a "wild" print of Florida just received from a nice friend ...
The jars are progressing ... i've just putted one in fruit chamber ...
The problem with the green tea is the green color ! Difficult to look for contamination ... but in an other hand the mycelium is very visible and looks so nice with the green background !!!


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Re: japanese green tea tek experiment [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #493683 - 12/17/01 12:22 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

i would think it would work, but watch out for contams.


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Re: japanese green tea tek experiment [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #493803 - 12/17/01 03:37 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Let me know how it goes.

Did you sterilize or pasturize? I would think green tea might naturally fight contaminants. I dont know why just a thought. Not black tea though for sure.

I might try it in the future.

Good Luck


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Re: japanese green tea tek experiment [Re: srivatsa]
    #493996 - 12/17/01 07:14 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

It does in fact have certain antibacterial properties, for a time...not sure when it runs out though...should be eneugh time for the mycelium to take hold, just make sure it is damp but not soaked and You should be allright. I would be curious to try this out myself...keep us posted.

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Re: japanese green tea tek experiment [Re: SThomas]
    #494586 - 12/18/01 08:29 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

No contamination at this time ... and i'm not paranoid about my sterility procedures, i must admit ...


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Re: japanese green tea tek experiment [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #494673 - 12/18/01 11:37 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Interesting thread...

I used to grow Kambusha, and that grew very well in sweetened raspberry tea...(different kind of fungus though)...I've thought about trying this as a liquid growing medium, but not as a casing material...I'm with Srivatsa on the black tea though...Stick with something that's naturally caffiene free...Good luck with your experiment...Keep us posted!!!


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Re: japanese green tea tek experiment [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #494737 - 12/18/01 12:53 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Idea just for fun.


Just pretend that girl is really tiny and she is holding a teabag! Thats my idea. Training small people to cultivate mushrooms on tea bags.



Actually I was thinking of taking a bag of green tea..., make tea, hang bag by string and shoot spore or mycelium water into it. Then just let it colonize and fruit on the bag hanging.

Hmmm........ Would look cool anyway.. I'm interested in decorative mushroom growing. Displays where mushrooms can grow in view. Like an indoor or outdoor mushroom garden. Plants and mushrooms combined. I'm already working on this. I do bonsai..... so that would be the ultimate. Bonsai with moss, mushrooms, and gem stones. Next year I'm looking for local fly agarics to try to grow with my bonsai. Imagine a bonsai with litle fly agarics popping up around it. I will post maybe next summer or fall.


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Re: japanese green tea tek experiment [Re: Fantazee]
    #494825 - 12/18/01 02:47 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Green tea contains catechin (tannin), flavonols, caffeine, vitamins, minerals and chlorophyll. Regular tea drinking offers an opportunity to relieve stress and stimulate the nerves as well as to appreciate unique flavors. Recently, green tea has been discovered to have anti-cancer properties.

Black tea is merely green tea ehere the semi dried green shoots are ruptured by rolling achieved from a rotary movement. The rolling process ruptures and twists the leaves. When tea leaves are crushed an oxidation process begins, which is followed by firing and commonly known black tea is produced.

Just thought I would clear this up...but green tea is considered by most to be healthier than black as the oxidization increases the caffeine content and some of the beneficial compounds are lost. That is not to say however that black tea in moderate quantities are bad for you...black tea also has it's benefits.

The better choice for using as a growing substrate would probably be green tea, which has not been oxidized, and will contain more vitamins, and be closer to a natural straw substrate.

Sorry for this long essay, just thought I would clear some things up. I do think this would make a potentialy great substrate.

Good luck, I think when I get my grass loving strains in I will try this as well. Keep us posted as to your progress.

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Re: japanese green tea tek experiment [Re: SThomas]
    #494902 - 12/18/01 04:08 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

so what do u think about combining green tea in a straw tek?

cause i know that quantities of that stuff are rather expensive, and if u just save every tea bag, u'll have to wait a LONG while b4 u got enuff of it for even a small casing


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Re: japanese green tea tek experiment [Re: aka]
    #494918 - 12/18/01 04:28 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Start a new life ! Drink green tea every day and you'll not wait LONG time ...
In fact there is cheap chinese green tea, it is called the " Gunpowder" type, because of the aspect of the leaves. I think you can find it in all asian grocery of the world ... but i did not tried it yet ...


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Re: japanese green tea tek experiment [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #495134 - 12/18/01 08:13 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Buy the loose leaves, they are the cheapest. Make the tea with a tea ball or bag, save the waste in the freezer, until you have eneugh for a jar then go nuts. It shouldn't take that long to get eneugh substrate...cheers.


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Re: japanese green tea tek experiment [Re: SThomas]
    #495177 - 12/18/01 08:51 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

werd, i've been drinking more tea lately, but not the plain ole "Green Tea" variety, more like blends from Celestial Seasons :) hehe

but at least its been varieties of greet tea (mint, honey, lemon, etc..) so i'll invest into the bulk variety of pure green tea and a ball for percolating.

but i'm thinkin of droppin the tea into my dessicant chamber just to dry them, for better preservation :) it might even absorb some of the psylocibin via osmosis from the dryin shroomies (one can dream right? :) )

i'll post something later on if this succeeds in any way

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Re: japanese green tea tek experiment [Re: aka]
    #495598 - 12/19/01 04:26 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Hm, i think it's not so easy to dry soaked tea ... why not PC it and case it for later ? I fear you will not help your mushrooms to become dry ...?


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Re: Japanese Green Tea Experiment [Re: aka]
    #495682 - 12/19/01 07:54 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Wow I have been thinking of exactly the same thing and I almost used green tea in my last substrate mix only I decided that because the tea wasnt organically made that it might contain fungicides so I didnt .

If anyone does do this or has done this please tell us what happend/happens .

TIA

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Re: japanese green tea tek experiment [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #495995 - 12/19/01 04:11 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

well, i kinda see the reasonin for PC'ing the stuff, but not just yet, cause i was plannin on that when i have a batch big enuff to mix with something.

and as far as dryin, my dessicant chamber is pretty efficient, so i'm not really worried about introducing too much water in there. i think they'd dry fast even if there was a cup of water standing there :)

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