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dorkus
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Re: Dropping out. [Re: Organic]
#4921221 - 11/11/05 06:34 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Foothills of himalaya if possible, but anywhere recommended would do fine. some country where stuff are cheap.
We have no plans yet, but will try if experienced people say it can be done.
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Re: Dropping out. [Re: dorkus]
#4921240 - 11/11/05 06:42 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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dr_mandelbrot said: Happy birthday! Our estimate is that we'll have about 50.000 dollars to start up with. Could it be done?
thanks and it depends, it cost me $300k for the land and some equipment, unless you are just growing suplimental food you'll want machinery, you need to know the weather for each season as well as what can be grown in your climate, some foods can be stored for long periods and many foods cant be stored together because gasses given off by one may speed decomposition of another
do a great deal a research before you consider it seriously
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u know that if your goal is to work as little as possible, farming is just the opposite of as little work as possible. Unless you mean like real jobs, like in an office or something like that. and nepalese girls are nasty dude. theyre all like 3-4ft. very little people. so unless your gonna be gay with your 5-7 buddies, i suggest you get a girlfriend to go along with you. you also need to learn the native tongue. and new languages arent all that easy, especially asianic languages with no slavic or latin influence.
i love your idea though. i don't think you know what you're doing though. i mean, if you intend to do something this serious, you need to read a few books on the country/region you want to move to. you dont know where to farm because you dont know much about the region. the only thing you'll likely be farming is rice in the himalayas. and if theres a drout or a flood(for example) you might lose your crop for the year. so you also need to learn how to ration incase you run out of crop. because if your starving and the next market is 200 miles away and the only way u can get there is by yak or donkey...
and u do have a lack of motivation. you have what is called amotivational syndrome; in modern society atleast. so, if i were you, i'd lay of the pot and the other drugs for like 6 monthes, do your work, and see if your mind changes. because think of how much your life would change. and if you still want to go to the himalayas, then you do it.
shit like this takes years of planning and saving. i'd stock up on books, spore syringes/prints, porno, and seeds before u go though :-P
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Prisoner#1 said: in relation to farming, factory work is easy, I'm farming right now.
while i agree with the spirit of waht you're saying i cannot possibly imagine how the hell you spend as much time here as you obviously do and yet manage to slave yourself to a farm.
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Re: Dropping out. [Re: dorkus]
#4921349 - 11/11/05 08:02 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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i'd personally stay in norway. most beatiful country i've ever lived in, hands down. 
but, it would be possible to buy land for cheap in, say, india. the problem would be having the connections to pay off the proper people so you'd be able to stay there without getting harrased by whomever. if you just wanted to try out the sustainable/semi-sustainable farm life, i'd recommend volunteering somewhere with wwoof.
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Re: Dropping out. [Re: dorkus]
#4921601 - 11/11/05 09:48 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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dr_mandelbrot said:

OH MY GOD!!!!! LUCKY BASTARD
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Re: Dropping out. [Re: dorkus]
#4922578 - 11/11/05 02:53 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't really know anything about Norway, but what about taxes on the land? How would you pay them?
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Re: Dropping out. [Re: dorkus]
#4922665 - 11/11/05 03:13 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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I subscribe to Entrepreneur magazine and in the November 2005 issue they have a Snapshot article on Cyd Szymanski, founder of Nest Fresh Eggs Inc. Basically, she decided to start her own business producing cage-free, organic shell and liquid/frozen eggs. To start this farming operation, she had to invest $28,000 for the first flock of chickens in 1991. Her 2005 projected sales are over $5 million! Here's an excerpt:
After enduring a childhood filled with the daily rigors of farm life, Cyd Szymanski vowed never to do anything farm-related again. But when her father and brother called her in 1991 with a captivating idea - producing cage-free eggs - Szymanski agreed to market the new business. She didn't agree, however, to be left fully in charge with $68,000 in debt after her family backed out a year later.
Determined not to crack under pressure, Szymanski immediately set to work winning customers. She convinced reluctant dairy managers at [supermarkets] throughout Colorado to carry her product, assuring them she would assume the cost of any broken, bad, or unsold eggs. The managers agreed, her eggs sold, and orders doubled. "We were on the cust of organic product growth," says Szymanski. Nest Fresh Eggs products are now carried in major markets and health-food stores in 11 [US] states. Szymanski's hard work has not only freed chickens, but farmers as well. By outsourcing some production, she has enabled 10 local farmers to continue farming. This holds special significance for Szymanski, whose own family lost their farm when she was young. "We need people connected to the earth and the animals, who can do a job that's hard," says Szymanski.
Now I'm not sure what type of farming you're thinking of doing dr_mandelbrot. If this is to self-sustain yourself, or to actually become profitable. I only wanted to include the above article as a window into someone who has gone the farm route and turned it into a multi-million dollar business over the spance of a decade. Of course, their timing was exceptionally good, and they did need a fairly sizeable chunk of change to finance the start-up. My advise (reiteration of the article) is to find ideas in niche markets that have not yet been saturated by other farmers, involve your friends in order to garner the necessary investment capital, and try to strategically place your business either in an area close to other farms (if you are considering expansion and rapid development) or in a small isolated market (if you prefer small-scale self-sustainability without as many near-term growth prospects). Don't forget that communication and customer service is just as important as offering a good product, and make sure your friends are truly dedicated before laying out the financing.
At any rate, good luck and I wish you great success!
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Re: Dropping out. [Re: dorkus]
#4922780 - 11/11/05 03:40 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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sounds like an awsome idea if you can pull it off. Good luck with it man!
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Re: Dropping out. [Re: XUL]
#4922812 - 11/11/05 03:47 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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i say do it experience is the best teacher
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I'm not going to bug you as the others are, but they do have a point.
Cucumbers, lettuce & peas are good for farming because you can harvest 2 or 3 times a year. Things like tomatoes take all year but, really its the joy of farming. My perants have always had a vegetable garden throughout my childhood, so I find pleasure in outdoor work such as farming.
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dorkus
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Thank you all for answering. We'll have to delve into it a little bit, don't want to exhaust ours elves.
Have a dazzling weekend.
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PeyoteZen said: i say do it experience is the best teacher
experience is also a killer
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Re: Dropping out. [Re: dorkus]
#4925257 - 11/12/05 08:02 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's awesome! I have a strong urge to do the same thing, but I need to go to college and learn! It's my calling for right now... maybe things will change.
If I were you I would check out Paul Staments book "Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms." This book contains everything you would need to know in order to incorperate mushrooms into your self-sufficient farm and make it more efficient.
Mushrooms are invalauble as decomposers and can easily be used to recycle agricultural waste products (like corn cobs, hay, wood, manure, etc.) to produce food and medicine. Several different species can be used successively on the same substrate until it is completely decomposed into a fertile topsoil which can be used for crops again.
You want to learn how to find a balance with the plants and animals you tend, and your environment. For example, you can grow legumes in between your other crops to replenish nitrogen in the soil. You can have sheep as well as a sourch of wool for clothes. If you could grow hemp in whichever country to choose, you could use that for clothes, rope, paper, etc. You could grind the hempseeds up for food and use the buds for trade with neighbors.
If you can afford some solar cells, or wind-turbines, then you could have the convenience of electricity via free energy!
Good luck dude, I seriously hope it works out for you! 
p.s. Seriously though, you've got to bring some chicks, and prepare for when someone breaks up or fucks another member of the group besides her boyfriend... Believe me, it WILL happen.
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