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Psilocybe caerulipes (pics)
    #492247 - 12/15/01 06:40 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Funally here are the long awaited pics, If they are not what I think they are, then I have no idea.





















That is it, so are they indeed caerulipes? I believe so, note the blueing, the spore print was purple brown, the cap had a removable gelatinous pelicule. the smaller ones blued extremely upon handling. Let the ID begin.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: SThomas]
    #492273 - 12/15/01 07:20 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Nice!!!!!!! those almost look like big old cubensis, what were they growing in?


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: Azurepower]
    #492319 - 12/15/01 08:52 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Wow SThomas, nice find!!! Those don't look like any of the species I'm familiar with. My guess is you have the real deal (caerulipes). :)

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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: spores]
    #492397 - 12/15/01 10:35 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

They were growing in wood mulch at my favorite park. In December!!!, where I live that is a first...hehe.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: SThomas]
    #492536 - 12/16/01 01:16 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

No way those are caerulipes...


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: cardboard]
    #492600 - 12/16/01 02:38 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Ok Cardboard...now how about some reasons why they are not. Have you ever seen them with your own eyes? I live in the geographic area where they are found, they have blue feet, purple/brown sporeprint, the right smell, they stain moderately blue and they match the description in the Audubon guide. I don't know what else to say...but this is the conclusion I have come to...if anyone else has any proof as to them being something else, I will be more than happy to listen.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: SThomas]
    #492784 - 12/16/01 11:18 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

I would come to the same conclusion,considering habitat,color,geographical location and other physical characteristics,that they are caerulipes.What would lead me to beleive otherwise would be their size.I've always assumed that caerulipes was a small to medium size mushroom.Those things look huge.Big and meaty.But as seeing as how I've never actually seen caerulipes (for sure anyway), I can't make an ID either way.
They sorta resemble weilii's also.That's LK's department.They're definitely not what I found earlier.My mushies were small.
Levi7 needs to take a look,he's the only one I know of that's possibly picked caerulipes.I'm not even sure if MJ has picked that species,although it seems he has a friend in Ohio (or somewhere like that)that has picked the caerulipes.Let some of these other folks take a look.
Like I mentioned earlier, the only thing that would lead me away from'em being caerulipes, is their size,and I'm probably just pissing in the wind on that one.
Of course they may be Psilocybe sthomas.Sounds like a winner to me,anyway ; )

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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: doo]
    #492807 - 12/16/01 11:47 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Those are way to big to be caerulipes. I would be very suprised if those are an active psilocybe, they look more along time lines of some kinda of stropharia to me. I dont think Levi7 has ever picked an caerulipes, he lives in the pacific northwest with me. I have no experiance with caerulipes i admit but i have picked a shitload of psychoactive psilocbyes to know the characteristics and those just arent doing it for me. I would be alot easier to tell what those are if they were decently fresh and in more prime condition.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: SThomas]
    #492944 - 12/16/01 02:18 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Sweet discovery SThomas!

Im not sure why your thinking Caerulipes..

I am not sure what they are, but i will keep them in mind and try to helpya get a +i.d.

Lizard King, Mj & Woodsman might have the most educated of guesses here. =)

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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #493405 - 12/16/01 11:37 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Hmmmm...I'm stumped, but I'm also stoned at the moment :) I need some time to study this one, its very interesting though. It is definitely an active Psilocybe, no doubt about it, but from just looking at those pics and making general measurement estimations, those are't Ps. caerulipes or Ps. quebecensis. They do sorta resemble Ps. weilii with the yellowish stem, but they are definitely not Ps. weilii either. I would guess it may be a new species or a species that is known but not this continent(Hope my stoned ass spelled that right :) It may be something that is known from europe, there are lots of species that paul doesn't list in his book. It kinda resembles Ps. natalensis, but your mushrooms don't have the long stem small cap look that is a consistant feature of Ps. natalensis.

Anyways, I'm stumped for now. Great find though, and great pics ST!!

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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #493408 - 12/16/01 11:40 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah where is LK when you need him, kudos on MJ, Levi7 and Woodsman too. I am drawing a blank, if they are not caerulipes then what? I strongly believe they are active though...whatever they might be. They were found just after a snowfall, so they are not prime specimens...but I grabbed some of the mycelium and half of the woodchips are npw colonized, will have to see what the fruits do look like in their prime condition, without slug or snow damage.

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    #493988 - 12/17/01 05:09 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: SThomas]
    #495541 - 12/19/01 12:35 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

154 thread views and only a handful of replies...of those that did I thank you. If Lizard King is right and they are a new species then that is pretty cool, either way they look and smell like magic to me...anyone else have an educated opinion on these?


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: SThomas]
    #495578 - 12/19/01 01:41 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

educated peopele often refrain from comenting when they just dont know :)


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: Mitchnast]
    #495703 - 12/19/01 06:57 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Hehe, thanks Mitchnast. I guess it is better than getting dumb answers.....hehe


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: SThomas]
    #496721 - 12/20/01 05:47 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

well i'm disapointed MJ or someone very experienced hasn't come into this post and identified this species yet. what's goin on guys? c'mon, let's get this fucker identified!

did you send the pictures to stamets?


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #498240 - 12/21/01 09:41 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

MJ just asked me to send him some samples, which I will do if I don't get an ID soon. The problem is with these I only found a few, and did not get the greatest spore prints out of them...only on paper towel, and off of the cap of one...seen in the first picture...that was underneath the other one. I have just sent a lengthy e-mail to one of Canada's most experienced mycologists, who happens to operate a herbarium nearby for the government. He has discovered a new psilocybe species in the area a few years ago, and identified some of the others in our area..so we shall see what he has to say. I may send the same e-mail off to Stamets as well...including my pics. If not I will send some of the samples to MJ...which I would have already done if I had some more...cheers.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: SThomas]
    #498827 - 12/22/01 07:01 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Good luck, St. Thomas!
It's a possibility that you've found a new species. At least, I'm hoping so! Hehe!
Those mushrooms are quite meaty, man!
The bluing is so vivid!
Definitely a Psilocybian! Although, it may not actually be a Psilcoybe species. I'm thinking Stropharia, based on the pics.
Nonetheless, I'm betting she'll take you for a ride or two! Hehe!
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: Levi7]
    #499966 - 12/24/01 08:46 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks Levi! Well nobody seems to be able to give them a positive ID, so it would be cool if they were a new species, I would be very happy to have discovered a new one. Will keep you posted on my ID progress.
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: SThomas]
    #504016 - 12/29/01 10:35 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Hello SThomas,

I was looking through PMOTW today,
and i thought of ya when i read the description
for - Psilocybe makarorae Johnston & Buchanan (1996).

P. makarorae is a newly described species found growing in woody debris - in New Zealand.

Stamets also comments that it is very closely related to
- Psilocybe caerulipes.

No photos are with the description - butcha might want to check that out!

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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #504299 - 12/29/01 06:58 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks GG...I will have to do that. I have just sent off the pics and query to this mycologist in the area, I am going to see what he says...then I will let you guys know, I will also let him know this new info, if he can't figure it out.

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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: SThomas]
    #526173 - 01/20/02 12:55 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Ok this mycologist never got back to me...hmm...still baffled. How about you woodsman? what do you think?


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: SThomas]
    #674979 - 06/12/02 01:16 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Just thought I would stir the waters up a bit with this one again...anyone figured this mushy out? Sent some samples to Workman last fall...dunno if he tried anything with them.

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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: SThomas]
    #4873211 - 10/30/05 10:40 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Hi all,
Im Eric, like to hunt and eat shrooms..not really an expert, but was thrilled at the possibility that this exact same mushroom i found along the ottawa parkway was psilocybin containing and picked several did massive amounts of studying, checking and rechecking making many spore prints etc. well after not really 100% verifying whether these were caerulipes or not, i decided to eat them anyway in the hopes that i didnt die but had a great high. Well they may not be caerulipes though they look like them, i can assure you that those mushrooms u found and posted pics of are definately 100% fun to trip on, i now pick them every year, they start best in late october around here in ottawa i found...at least along the parkway, and a smaller cap gets u pretty buzzed but 1-2 of the medium to larger caps gets u off to never never land. I would never recommend eating mushrooms your not sure of....but i figured that on the philosophy of what doesnt hurt you makes you stronger and im glad i ate them. So yeah thats my advice...they taste like shit tho...way worse than semilanceata or silvatica the latter of which also grow along the parkway...but these suspected caerulipes grow fairly abundantly and give a great ride. Also if i could ask anyone here for an easy way to grow these over winter as i would like to have some winter time fun....please let me know sincerely Eric


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: ottawaeric]
    #4875144 - 10/31/05 12:35 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Could you post some pics Eric? It would be interesting to compare.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: SThomas]
    #5587518 - 05/03/06 08:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I pick P. caerulipes quite often, three different variations of them, and those look quite different from any that I have seen.

I have posted pictures in the past, but I am planning on posting new pictures, as these mushrooms have adapted a more potent form as well as odd physical characteristics (swirling gills and a more "meaty" texture). They actually resemble P. azurescens, but it is extremely unlikely.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: cardboard]
    #5587753 - 05/03/06 08:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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I would be very suprised if those are an active psilocybe


What? Really?? I'd be very surpsied if they weren't! Not saying they are, but damn, they definitely display all the right characteristics of Psilocybe mushroom.

Can't say I'm very experienced picking anything put P.Cubensic and Pan.Cyanascens so I dunno. That's just my 2c.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: oO_wombat_Oo]
    #5587857 - 05/03/06 09:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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cardboard said:
I would be very suprised if those are an active psilocybe


What? Really?? I'd be very surpsied if they weren't! Not saying they are, but damn, they definitely display all the right characteristics of Psilocybe mushroom.

Can't say I'm very experienced picking anything put P.Cubensic and Pan.Cyanascens so I dunno. That's just my 2c.




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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: Gumby]
    #5587908 - 05/03/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

all i know is they look like they have been to hell and back


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: DaveTX]
    #5587913 - 05/03/06 09:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

BTW is that you or your mother on that picture?


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: DaveTX]
    #5588267 - 05/03/06 11:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

5 years old lol. Shit aye.

Still I wonder what they were. They look like some unidentified psilocybe to me. But I'm far from an expert.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: DaveTX]
    #5588280 - 05/03/06 11:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Psilocybe(Stropharia) caerulea/ aeruginosa group..........EDIT: with a face only a mother could love.....can actually be quite striking...possibly the most beautiful of all shrooms in some varieties......


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: shroominDole]
    #5589304 - 05/04/06 08:36 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Surprizingly there is still alot of questions regarding the activity and toxicity of this group of mushrooms....


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: shroominDole]
    #5589460 - 05/04/06 10:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

My Bad, I thought this was shroomey Dan's post on P. caerulipes. They are as ShroominDole says, belong to Nooderloos Psilocybe genera of non-active Stropharias renamed into Psilocybe.

They are not psychoactive whatsioever. The slimy caps are a distinct feature of those particular Stropharias which were recently renamed int he genus Psilocybe.

Why Paul Stamets puts non-active species in a book on psilocybin musherooms is beyond my comprehension.

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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #7264823 - 08/06/07 12:44 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I revisited this sample and have a tentative identification (better late than never, right?). The chrysocystidia and viscid cap place it in the genus Stropharia. The microscopic structures are in the ranges of the closely related blue Stropharias (S. pseudocyanea, S. aeruginosa and S. caerulea). Without a fresh specimen it is difficult to get an exact ID but it most resembles S.caerula. An attempt is being made to reanimate the dormant spores on the gills but the sample is very dirty and significant numbers of spores of other mushrooms were visible in the sample. I am also still working on a good cheliocystidia image to complete the composite.



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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: Workman]
    #7265071 - 08/06/07 03:28 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Please keep it up!


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: shroominDole]
    #7266055 - 08/06/07 11:45 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Psilocybe(Stropharia) caerulea/ aeruginosa group..........EDIT: with a face only a mother could love.....can actually be quite striking...possibly the most beautiful of all shrooms in some varieties......




Heh, I didn't even notice that shroominDole already got it. Oh well, now its confirmed.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: Workman]
    #12988959 - 08/02/10 02:37 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I stumbled across this post, and although the debate was dragged through some 8 odd years, it was never resolved. I am fairly sure those are Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: Gridlock Prones]
    #12988962 - 08/02/10 02:37 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: Gridlock Prones]
    #12992131 - 08/02/10 05:52 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

a beautiful post, nice vintage shots, any word on any recent finds of this kind?


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: SThomas]
    #21295734 - 02/18/15 08:58 PM (9 years, 7 days ago)

and I quote Paul Stamets: "If it [the mushroom]has purple-brown spore prints and bruises blue, give it a try. Eat it."

he went as far to say that any purple-brown spore print with blue bruising are least wont be poison.

he said this in his talk at the psychedelic conference in Amsterdam, easilyy googled, within the last twenty minutes.

if it isn't Caerlipes it's likely another active species.

you give hope to the eastern woodlands.

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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: Naushnabe]
    #21296633 - 02/19/15 01:03 AM (9 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

Naushnabe said:
and I quote Paul Stamets: "If it [the mushroom]has purple-brown spore prints and bruises blue, give it a try. Eat it."

he went as far to say that any purple-brown spore print with blue bruising are least wont be poison.

he said this in his talk at the psychedelic conference in Amsterdam, easilyy googled, within the last twenty minutes.

if it isn't Caerlipes it's likely another active species.

you give hope to the eastern woodlands.

:smile:



Shit's 13 years old, mayn. And it's not an active species, it's Stropharia I think.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: SThomas]
    #21326290 - 02/25/15 01:50 AM (9 years, 1 day ago)

Hey brother i know it was 13 months ago, but those look exactly like P. Caerulipes that grow natural to my region of southern ontario, CANADA. so i think you got what you think you got bro, Deffenitly the right area to find them they love the areas of wood, you can find them in forests on logs in southern ontario and half of the upper states below southern ontario. so i think you got em bro (:


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: Gandalfthestoned]
    #21326370 - 02/25/15 02:41 AM (9 years, 1 day ago)

Years, this thread is 13 years old.
Also I think these mushrooms might be a blue Stropharia which is not a psychoactive species.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #21327061 - 02/25/15 09:18 AM (9 years, 1 day ago)

is it a full moon?

oh.  i know!

lots of kiddies home from school due to weather.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes (pics) [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #21352776 - 03/02/15 04:50 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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maynardjameskeenan said:
Years, this thread is 13 years old.
Also I think these mushrooms might be a blue Stropharia which is not a psychoactive species.




Wow, I've read this thread a few times in my years here. Cool, but yeah, probably a bluing Stropharia, probably not Psilocybe, definitely not Psilocybe caerulipes. These are caerulipes, and they look QUITE different





I just want the proper information spread, I don't want others to be be misinformed.


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