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OfflineMuShi_KiNg
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tripping with mixed shrroms
    #491950 - 12/15/01 11:00 AM (23 years, 1 month ago)

say like 1.5 grams cambo 1.5 grams b+ Any idea's anybody ??????

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
    #491953 - 12/15/01 11:07 AM (23 years, 1 month ago)

I haven't tried it but I would think you'd just be modifying the ratios of alkaloid constituents perhaps changing the trip slightly.

Edited by _JJ_ (12/15/01 11:08 AM)

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: _JJ_]
    #491960 - 12/15/01 11:18 AM (23 years, 1 month ago)

I have a subquestion for this topic.....
Ive read posts where people talk about how one strain gives more visulars, and others just give body buzzes...
I dont see how the strain could do this...
Wouldn't it just be a series of factors that go into this?
How much is ingested, the setting, your mood, the events...
Etc?

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
    #492075 - 12/15/01 01:53 PM (23 years, 1 month ago)

somebody Please :)

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
    #492076 - 12/15/01 01:54 PM (23 years, 1 month ago)

somebody Please :)
will

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
    #492077 - 12/15/01 01:54 PM (23 years, 1 month ago)

somebody Please :)
will it

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
    #492078 - 12/15/01 01:54 PM (23 years, 1 month ago)

somebody Please :)
will it be

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
    #492079 - 12/15/01 01:54 PM (23 years, 1 month ago)

somebody Please :)
will it be dangerous e

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
    #492080 - 12/15/01 01:54 PM (23 years, 1 month ago)

somebody Please :)
will it be dangerous ect...

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
    #492081 - 12/15/01 01:54 PM (23 years, 1 month ago)

somebody Please :)
will it be dangerous ect... thanxz

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
    #492086 - 12/15/01 01:57 PM (23 years, 1 month ago)

weird dunno wtf happend there :(

sorry

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
    #492087 - 12/15/01 01:58 PM (23 years, 1 month ago)

>will it be dangerous ect...
No.

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: Anno]
    #492093 - 12/15/01 02:09 PM (23 years, 1 month ago)

Mixing strains will not be dangerous, have done it on more than 1 occassion and had no problems...I don't understand what people mean about the different strains and having different feelings...Psilocybin/psilocin stay the same chemical no matter what, I don't experience a difference between strains other than potency. Interesting to hear what others have to say about contrasting different strains of mushrooms that contain psilocybin/psilocin. We often seem to forget about the lib caps that grow so abundantly here in the great NW.


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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: conphormant]
    #522606 - 01/16/02 03:34 PM (23 years, 27 days ago)

what about psilly's and amanitas? or???...is there other differently active shrooms??

shitakiis are really good for people i hear, i had no luck growin them thugh

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: conphormant]
    #522843 - 01/16/02 07:58 PM (23 years, 27 days ago)

I definately experience common and unique characteristics with not only different species of psilocybe, but at high doses between cubensis strains.
As an example - ps.cyanescens always give me no come up what-so-ever, just a plateau effect with large amounts of mind distortions and sound hallucinations but little visuals.
On the other hand, Ps.Suaeruginosa sometimes gives me an anxious and jittery come-up, no body load at all, normal mind set, but strong visual halluncinations at high dosages.
Ps.Australiana give me a giggle fest that only increases with dosage.
I put these variables down to the presence, or absense of the other alkaloids that are practically unstudied - such as baeocystin, nor-baeocystin, aeruginacine and tryptophan and the unique levels of all the alkaloids in each fruit.
Ps.Cubensis usually gives me the most anxious come-up of any mushroom - however i have found this to definately be spore-race dependent. As an example, if i eat a large dose of fresh tasmanian, Lipa Yai or PFClassic cubensis i will nearly always get a really fidgety anxious come-up - whereas if i eat the same dosage of Mazapatec (beautiful), Golden Teacher or B+ i never have this experience only pure bliss.
Secondly, i also have noticed a definate difference in potency between cubensis that is sporerace dependent - as an example : Lipas and B+ are not as potent as PRs, GTs or Tasmanians - and this is from repeated cultivation and consumption of these spore-races.
As for crossing mush, i often do this - as an example, to avoid that anxiety at the start of a high tasmanian dose, i start by eating four dried PS.Cyanescens and then after the initial effects begin, i eat the cubensis - this works fine.


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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #523053 - 01/17/02 12:09 AM (23 years, 27 days ago)

man i thought it was only my wookie friend who had this anxious come up with cubensis! he says that the local cubes come up is the most fucked up of all... cambos can be fucked too. he cant wait to try another species like azures or cyans in order to see the difference!

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: felixhigh]
    #523066 - 01/17/02 12:39 AM (23 years, 27 days ago)

Each variety, depending on environmental factors, contain different concentrations of the active compounds that get yallz high. Some strains are very similar to others and have virtually almost the same exact trip and feeling. They all react differently depending on the person. I've found that mexi cubes in general don't give you as much visuals but give you more of a body high at 2.5 grams They also tend to fuck with your head(ie. you get anxiety attacks, but it could just be the tripper:) Equadors, on the other hand, grown in the same exact conditions, are very body and visual at 2.5 grams. They feel very clean and don't speed you out nor give you anxiety attacks at MODERATE doses. Treasure coast, under the same conditions and amount mentioned above, fuck with your head and are very visual and body high. Cyanescens, unlike cubes, creep on you very fast and are both very visual and give a strong body high at 1.4 grams

Edited by Azure (01/17/02 12:41 AM)

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: Azure]
    #523124 - 01/17/02 02:16 AM (23 years, 27 days ago)

Sometimes does mind fucks and anxiety attacks are a bitch, but hey. 4 -7 hours later, you'll be feeling like a super hero cause you survived that shit. Way to go shroomers! I know it boosts my confidence a notch for a couple days afterwards too. All in all a good deal right?


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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: mrdasani]
    #523129 - 01/17/02 02:21 AM (23 years, 27 days ago)

So whats the most visual shroom u say?

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
    #523215 - 01/17/02 06:08 AM (23 years, 27 days ago)

different shrooms carry different levels of psilocybe and psilion so yes they can be different because of that...but mood etc.i think makes a bif difference too....
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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: tomatofarmer]
    #523219 - 01/17/02 06:13 AM (23 years, 27 days ago)

like my post says - there are lots of other alkaloids that are only present in some psilocybes - such as aeruginecine in some Australian natives.
As for Cubensis, i dont know anyone who doesnt get some level of anxiety while coming up on say 4 - 5 grams dry plus.
whereas a trip of the same magnetude on pan cyans or ps.cyanescens or other woodlovers may not give you any noticable come-up nasties - but at the end of the day its all part of the fun.


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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #523553 - 01/17/02 01:48 PM (23 years, 26 days ago)

so, according to your experiences guys, what would be the calmest and the most anxious come ups of _cubes_???

i vote on cambos for a very anxious come up.

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #523561 - 01/17/02 02:20 PM (23 years, 26 days ago)

On the contrary, bluemeanie, Ps. azurescens gave me the worst anxiety trip during the initiation phase and I only consumed 0.6 grams dried. This same attack occurred at the same exact time as my friend, but I think he transferred the vibes to me and I merely experienced what he was feeling. The reason I felt it was because azures hit you very fast-about 15 minutes later you're already in that "atmosphere." Also, I ALWAYS get tired after eating shrooms, and just when I feel like going to sleep, it hits me and keeps me up. HOwever, as pointed out earlier, it's probably psychosomatic...

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: Azure]
    #523894 - 01/17/02 09:22 PM (23 years, 26 days ago)

sorry - i dont know about that particular wood-lover - i live in aussie so ive never seen, let alone tried Ps.Azurescens - maybe one day though! Ps.Cyanescens and Subaeruginosa are as close as we get to those...


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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #524531 - 01/18/02 12:33 PM (23 years, 25 days ago)

so no one has a story about amanitas+psilocybes?

i read in my audobon book that the amanitas in north america are posionus but the ones in europe/asia are hallucinogenic.
this is bull yes?

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: YouInfoIt]
    #525396 - 01/19/02 08:03 AM (23 years, 25 days ago)

Some (many) species of amanitas are VERY poisonous, shut the liver down 2 days after ingestion. Followed by agonizing death. Do your homework if picking wild. It's obvious which to pick and which not to. Never mixed amanitas with cubenses, but did mix half an eighth of cyan. with half an eighth of cubensis (not sure what strain) and had a crazy time. Talking trees, dancing Indians, ground shook when walking, all that good stuff.

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Re: tripping with mixed shrroms [Re: YouInfoIt]
    #525423 - 01/19/02 09:03 AM (23 years, 24 days ago)

amanitas are bad man! shouldnt be a nice mix!!!
though one cant mistake a big red a. muscaria var muscaria with lots of flies arriving and taking off its cap...and i wonder... what do the flies do on amanitas caps???

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