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Offlinewacked
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Is it possible to O.D. on Shrooms?":
    #491742 - 12/15/01 06:07 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I have eaten alot of Shrooms at once before but I am curious if anyone knows of anyone who has ever O.D.ed on Shrooms before. I have never known anyone.
I did know one British girl while we were in Koh Phangan Thailand and ate Omletts at a restraunt in Haad Rin with shrooms in them we didnt eat alot maybe 6 fresh ones each.
and she had a good trip in the beginning but it went sour and she started freaking out screaming and getting destructive with her things and herself. After a couple days of it I had to take her to Bangkok and I had to find a mental hospital for her she was seriously freakin, like in the movie exorcist. She would punch people and spit on them and fight with me when I tried to get her in a cab to go to the Hospital. Had to get the Police involved so she could get admitted. Her wacked out insanity lasted for a couple weeks in the hospital. She was released from the hospital and went straight to theAirport.
It wasnt O.D. just a long bad trip


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Re: Is it possible to O.D. on Shrooms?": [Re: wacked]
    #491856 - 12/15/01 10:19 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

As it has been often said you would have to eat approximately your bodyweight in mushrooms to OD, so its not likely to ever happen. Go mental off a dose? yes. that can and will happen to some people. Not usually to your friends extent though, I feel there is more to the story that maybe you know though.


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Re: Is it possible to O.D. on Shrooms?": [Re: flaw]
    #493042 - 12/16/01 05:56 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

The biggest acount I've ever come accrossed(sp?) was 56 dried grams of cubensis. I found it on erowid.
I personnaly have eaten a little over an ounce with no bad shit that happened.
I think that there is a danger of liver failure though, it may be obscure but still there. If you drink alot or if you do alot of damage to your liver in other ways, you might want to be more cautious when eating them. The danger of liver failure is real if its over worked.


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Re: Is it possible to O.D. on Shrooms? [Re: ArchDruid]
    #493059 - 12/16/01 06:16 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

When I was younger and dumber I once ate three full plates full of dried PF Classic 'shrooms!! Man it was about the worse trip of my life. For over eight hours I layed in bed fighting off the aliens that had insect bodys in my bedroom. It didnt matter if my eyes were open or closed, I seen Alien faces of all sizes everywhere that I looked. I could not shake the feeling that the aliens had planted the spores on our planet, from another galaxy, in order to merge with humans to become one species. Shit I even seen a female alien shaveing what apeared to be very atracted human female legs in my bathtub!! (and yes, she wanted me... but I said "no")

The worse part about it was that the mothership never really left our planet. Nope.. they simply parked it in a near by Wallmart parking lot waiting for another 'shroomer to fuck up.

And, no I'm not makeing this up. I really seen this shit that day. Now here come the FLASHBACKS!! NOOOooo!


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Re: Is it possible to O.D. on Shrooms?": [Re: wacked]
    #493734 - 12/17/01 01:34 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Techinically...yes it is posible to overdose on shrooms (possible to overdose on ANY drug, for that matter). In reality you would have an incredibly hard time getting to the point of overdose. Don't worry about it. As someone already said, you would have to eat somewhere near your body weight in mushrooms before you could overdose.


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Re: Is it possible to O.D. on Shrooms?": [Re: trendal]
    #494237 - 12/17/01 10:55 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

The overdose level for psilocybin is 12 grams of the pure chemical.. so thats a lot of mushrooms.. you'd puke way before eating that many mushrooms.


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Re: Is it possible to O.D. on Shrooms?": [Re: wacked]
    #496979 - 12/20/01 03:21 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Ooooops! Sorry, my "off the top of my head" figures turned out to be "off the wall"... Here's the correction-with the math...

5grams of P. cubensis=about 15mg of a combination of Psilocybin/Psilocin. The LD50 for Psilocybin=280mg divided by the 15mg=18.6 5gram doses (the high figure for a level 5)=93.3grams of dry P. cubensis to give you a 50/50 chance if you're a lab animal... So an O.D. is about 3.1oz for dry and about 1.9lbs fresh...and like "optikal trip" pointedout..."you'd puke way before eating that many mushrooms".

I think the LD50 for psilocybin (lethal death in half the incidence, where half the lab animals given an amount of the drug die) is about 280mg (don't quote me) which to save a lot of scientific stuff is equal to about 18.6 doses to reach level 5... (5grams per dose/a high figure I realize/normal dose dry is around 3.7grams to account for some potency loss in drying) That's about 93.3grams...to OD...and it is possible... (that is if you're a lab animal given this much-you'd have a 50/50 chance) but hey-I can enjoy 3-7 drinks and get up the next day with no side effects... What I mean is, if I want to enjoy alcohol-I don't need to drink a 30-pak and blitz myself! I think alot of people need to apply that thinking to shrooms. Don't buy the "hype" that to trip really hard makes you someone special. Don't over do it or hurt yourself with anything. Micro dosing can be fun as well...

---Live safely and wisely---.......Tannis


Edited by Tannis (12/21/01 08:28 AM)


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Re: Is it possible to O.D. on Shrooms?": [Re: optikal_trip]
    #497575 - 12/21/01 04:52 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

i have puked once from eating shroomies. it was gross. i have seen several pepole bugg out from eating too much. but actually die of them no i don't think you could achive this


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Re: Is it possible to O.D. on Shrooms?": [Re: mystic1]
    #497930 - 12/21/01 04:05 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

According to research by Jonathan Ott the od level is 19.5 grams of dried material or your body weight in fresh shrooms. However I shoulld remind all that it is impossible to eat your body weight in fresh shrooms or any kind of food for that matter.

See my section on mushroom poisoning and treatment and effects in my field guide at my site at:

http://mjshroomer.yage.net/species.html

Actually about ten pounds of food might kill you but then again thats a lot of food. Maybe five pounds of food I am sure you would puke.

mj


Edited by mjshroomer (12/22/01 05:00 PM)


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Re: Is it possible to O.D. on Shrooms?": [Re: mjshroomer]
    #498662 - 12/22/01 04:49 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Quoting a lethal dose for psilocybin or psilocin is misleading because, unless I am wrong and if I am please correct me, magic mushrooms also contain several mildly toxic alkaloids, so really the lethal dose is a bit more complicated than simply looking a how much of the psychoactives you are taking.

Fortunately, I think you can probably eat a dried ounce and live (why would you want to?). My friend ate 15 grams dried once and lived, though he said he was quite terrified. Whether or not eating a lot of shrooms damages internal organs I don't know. Hopefully someone more learned than me will reply.

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Re: Is it possible to O.D. on Shrooms?": [Re: wacked]
    #498767 - 12/22/01 07:32 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

any thing you can't controll is a o.d years ago i ate 6 pizza size fly agarics,and belive me i thought i was dead
i fell asleep in what my friend said was like a comma state ,but a awoke after a hour so alive ,and such a wild amazing trip,before i went into to comma state my guts were like a washing machine full of shoes,i thought i was a peace of history


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Re: Is it possible to O.D. on Shrooms? [Re: BoneyDragon]
    #502616 - 12/27/01 07:35 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)


" magic mushrooms also contain several mildly toxic alkaloids "

I too, believe so !


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Re: Is it possible to O.D. on Shrooms? [Re: Hermes_br]
    #502857 - 12/28/01 01:03 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

You would be surprised how much some people will eat. I dont think you can OD on mushrooms, and if you can it is WAY over how much you can eat. The most I have stomached down is 14 grams in a couple hours...Very queezy stomach. It would be much more funny to see what would happen to someone who drank like a quart of liquid LSD though. That would be fucked.


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Re: Is it possible to O.D. on Shrooms?": [Re: wacked]
    #504648 - 12/30/01 08:26 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

What you describe is most definitely an overdose (for her anyway). An overdose by definition is not necessarily a fatal overdose, but the ingesting of too much for the desired effect.


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Re: Is it possible to O.D. on Shrooms?": [Re: mushymuncher]
    #504657 - 12/30/01 09:01 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Fly Agarics are entirely different magic mushrooms that contain Muscarine and not Psilocyibin as their main psychoactive ingredient .
So OD potential is therefore not likely to be the same .

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    #504663 - 12/30/01 09:25 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Is it possible to O.D. on Shrooms?": [Re: wacked]
    #504759 - 12/30/01 01:42 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I think it may have been Hat Rin. That place is what Hell would be like. And shit man Hell is not a good setting for a trip.


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Re: Is it possible to O.D. on Shrooms?": [Re: wacked]
    #506031 - 12/31/01 06:15 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Hey Whacked,

A quetion of importance.

How come you took this girl all the way to Bangkok when there is a large hospital right there on Koh Samui.

It is in Downtown nathon onthe island of Koh Samui and is quite large. ALso you might want to read my paper on shrooms from Koh Samui and Koh Phag-nan, Thailand.

There were numerous case studies of Eupoean restaurant owners on Koh Samui and elsewhere who, when shrooms are not in season, or avaialble, were known to put liquid LSD in omelettes with edible shrooms gathered fromthe wild or from the fgrocery stores. This in turn, amounted to people having experiencing 10 to 12 hours or more of hallucinations and then going to the Koh Samui Hospiotal for treatment.

I just wondered why you took her to Bangkok when a Hosputal was right at your doorstep and most tourists know of the hospital in Koh Samui, as do the clinics all over the Island.

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Re: Is it possible to O.D. on Shrooms? [Re: Food]
    #506037 - 12/31/01 06:18 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Hey Food,

Where do you get your information.

Muscarine is not the active ingredient in Amanita muscaria and Amanita panterina.

Ibotenic acid and Muscimole are the active ingredients, although the Amanita's do contain muscaine, it is initself not a psychoactive compound.

It causeds rorfuse sweating and vomiting in those who eat shrooms which contain it.

mj


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