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 ArchDruid
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While your point is taken.
Answer me this, what will it matter what we have been ACCOUNTABLE for as you say when were on our last breath.
I certainly don't plan on wasting my only prized possesion, meaning my last breath and last thought on this earth, on trivial bullshit.
But you know what, que sera sera.
To each his own. I respect and value all of your points of view.
Live life, and enjoy the journey friends, thats what is truely important.
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 Re: IT IS COMING...  [Re: ArchDruid]
#495311 - 12/18/01 08:54 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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i also can appreciate everyone's point of view here, although i find myself siding with senordoobie... yes the fact is that death is inevitable and this may easily justify the assertion that nothing matters in th long run. but we don't know what death is. maybe every action we make *will* have a repercussion, maybe none will. but i have to think that because of the fact that we are all living and doing and that we *are* affected by each other's actions, *everything* we do matters, maybe not necessarily after death, but now it certainly does because it affects our reality. what i've always wondered about people who seem to not care about anything, is, why do they go on? why don't they just, say, get themselves a bunch of heroin and go out with a bang of ecstacy? really, i want to know.. is it because they simply get more enjoyment out of the journey than absolute ecstacy?? if thats the case, wouldn't you want it to be a more pleasant journey, one where people are held accountable for their actions?
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ArchDruid
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 Re: IT IS COMING... [Re: Amoeba665]
#495373 - 12/18/01 09:49 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree.
The reason I go on is simple because of the fact that I enjoy this life however meaningless in the longrun it is.
Life as well as death is but a journey, why not enjoy them both in there own time?
Yes we are affected by the actions of others, and they by ours. But I still hold to the fact that it really doesnt matter.
Case and point(I practise what I preach): I knew someone who killed a very close friend of mine. I was not upset by this, that is not to say that I did not mourn his passing. I simple took the appropriate time to mourn, appreciated the impact it had on my path then continued on my journey. I forgave that person in person, I feel Im a better person for it.
No matter what happens ever, the sun will rise in the mourning. So what does it matter, as long as there is another day to live. That is why I hold to the theory that nothing matters but the journey.
I think when people can realize this they will be more at peace, don't sweat anything my friend.
Another case and point: I recently lost my job and my apartment, and contact with my daughter, and contact with my girlfriend, and my insurance(I just happened to get very sick the very day). All of this within 2 days.
Now I don't tell you these things for pity only to illustrate something. If I had a weaker mind, this would have broken me, in my opinion possible any man. But I realized after the 5th day without these things, while sick in bed. Hey the sun came up, wow life goes on, what a concept.
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Re: IT IS COMING... [Re: ArchDruid]
#495556 - 12/19/01 01:01 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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SherlockDrubu - I can appreciate the magnitude of your trip. Isn't it funny that all trippers at some point or another have an exact trip. I believe that that is not a cuincidence(sp?). I think that the universe is trying to show us the simple truth that I illustratred. Some people need to be showed this on a "trip" through use of a sacrament of some kind. Some are open to this without, but however you reach this truth bravo for reaching it your life should be exhorbinantly(sp?) more peaceful.
Well put. My words on the internet are pretty out there, and in no way represent the true me. I feel as thought i have shared this 'trip' or 'truth' with many people, i cannot put it into words, but i know, you know, i know you know, and thats all that matters. A big smile. The part about people not being allowed drugs is a given, i think most people are not ready, including me to an extent. Ive been clean for over 6 months now, cause ..idunno?.. but before i felt like i could take anything, no drug could outpower me, i was super-tak...i learned my lesson the hard way, and i consider myself pretty in touch, and mentally stable. Alot of people i know think this too, i cannot explain to them that they have a limit, and they too will probably learn the hard way. Im sorry. The tv thing, i just felt as though me and my 'friend' some person i created, were getting into a car, and we were ourselves, however we had a specific role, and were someone else, as thoguth we were actors, on a television show. Pretty weird.
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ArchDruid
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Re: IT IS COMING... [Re: tak]
#495586 - 12/19/01 01:51 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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I recognised the real you under that.
By the way about that trip, BELIEVE me brother I do understand (probebly more than most). It takes throwing yourself off a cliff in a sence (you know what I mean), to realize maybe thats far enough for now. Consider yourself a conquerer for surviving mentally, many are to weak.
You'll get there, be patient.
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Re: IT IS COMING... [Re: ArchDruid]
#495588 - 12/19/01 01:56 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree that each has his own journey. I came across strongly in my previous post because I felt insulted by another post in this thread. It had a self-reightous ring to it and I reacted.
At any rate, good luck to all of us.
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Re: IT IS COMING... [Re: ArchDruid]
#495589 - 12/19/01 01:57 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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I love you <3 goodnight
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ArchDruid
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I recognised the defence mechanism and tried to show the upmost respect for your view.
I apologise for the self-rightious ring, it was not my intention.
At any rate this was one hell of an in depth conversation and I valued every minute of it.
Indeed, good luck to us all, whatever our path.
I love you too TAK. Hell I love all of you.
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Re: IT IS COMING... [Re: ArchDruid]
#495608 - 12/19/01 02:49 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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ArchDruid is right... nothing really matters.. just ask Metallica!!
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Re: IT IS COMING... [Re: wacamaster]
#495618 - 12/19/01 03:08 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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the vices that we call reality, mechanisms of forced mental slavery, suspension of disbeleif marred by direct relations with self-image because it IS self image.
billions of self images, just in case you missed anything.
the ultimate subconsious goal of philosophy, complete understanding. complete oneness with ID and EGO
loss of body and completion of mind. the peonix is us.
how close are we now that we know so strongly what it would be like, learned bit by bit how to arrive there, and seen for ourselves the result?
the vast majority of men live a life of quiet desperation.
a clock is a metranome for the music of ones soul.
the hand that sets the tempo....the hand that rocks the cradle, is the hand that rules the world.
before the long and short of it finds reason to pass, one or more individuals (individuality = indivisable dualty) will find the secret and have the guts and desparation to reach, why oh why does one of them have to be you? yes you. maybe the only one. welcome to my studio. here is the hub of all creation. start here and go anywhere. anywhere at all. or nowhere, it is no different.
open your eyes and see for the first time the sea from land, standing ashore and above it all, this slowly consuming sea of corruption becomming farther and farther obscured with pseudo-success of technological advancement.
the technology you dont know however is the master program. but you are close. so close. just remember, is it what you want? because yoiure really close to making it happen and its not too late to turn back as you have already proven to yourself.
someday however, it will be. do not be afraid of change, and fear not becomming that which you pity.
good luck
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Re: IT IS COMING... [Re: Mitchnast]
#495623 - 12/19/01 03:18 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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i don't see why people bother talking philsophy in a seriouse manner, when it has already been determined that meaning is meaninless. Post-modernize, stop thinking so hard, and you'll realize how pointless, and utterly comical dicussions like this are. I mean you can go deeper, and deeper, but you just going to drownd, drownd in a vivid pool of exerstencializm, and there will be an octopus there, and the octopuss will say, "hey gimmi a nugget"
and you'll say "i don't have a nugget"
and he'll say "well buddy, come back when you do!"
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Amoeba665
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agreed. but that's always been our problem, hasn't it? getting ahead of ourselves and doing things there's no reason to do? and then doing more to make up for the problems created by the others things we did that we didn't need to do, and then doing something else to make up for the problems that created, and on and on until, finally, we...stop?
nah, never happen...
btw cool pic
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