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OfflineNoviseer
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So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday
    #4905807 - 11/07/05 06:54 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

thats right :cool:

After I tried MDMA for the first time, I told my mom all about it, and she said, in a sort of off-hand way, that she'd love to experience it.  So yesterday I put two capsules of molly in a bag, and stapled it her birthday card. :sun:  I figured if I was a parent, and there was something that good out there, I'd want to know about it.  Also, my mom and I have quite similar personalities and share a very similar spirituality, and I imagine that MDMA would benefit her immensely, just like it did for me. 

I made it clear that she doesn't have to feel emberrassed if she chooses not to partake, but she definitely wants to.  The thing is, she wants to take it alone.  I think she's afraid it'd be too weird to do drugs with her son, her husband would be horrified, and her friends are all too square. 

Has anyone rolled with a parent?  How was it? 

What about rolling, for your first time, alone?  Would that be allright, or terrible.  We're both somewhat introverted, and she's always telling me how she loves being alone, so maybe that'd be allright?

Am I even doing the right thing here? 

What should I tell her?


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Re: So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday [Re: Noviseer]
    #4905819 - 11/07/05 06:56 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

You're really lucky to have that kind of relationship with your mom. Wish I could say the same about my parents.

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Re: So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday [Re: Noviseer]
    #4905830 - 11/07/05 06:58 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

umm... dont have sex with your mom.


j/k

Ive never done drugs with my parents, nor would I just on principle.


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Re: So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday [Re: Jim]
    #4905873 - 11/07/05 07:06 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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umm... dont have sex with your mom.





exactly... there's all this freudian weirdness in our society with regards to the mother/child relationship... plus Ecstasy has this association with sex (which I think is completely off-base, btw.)


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Re: So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday [Re: Noviseer]
    #4905875 - 11/07/05 07:06 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Taking it alone is an experience I definitely think everybody should try, but only after taking it with somebody else who knows what its like. Maybe it would be best if she took it with you while you were sober? If she has anxieties about taking drugs with you, chances are the MDMA will take care of that after the initial VRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

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I hope both of you get a great experience from it!

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Re: So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday [Re: Noviseer]
    #4905878 - 11/07/05 07:07 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I think it would be a great experience if you could roll together

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Re: So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday [Re: buckwheat]
    #4911682 - 11/08/05 10:15 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

i wish i could get my family to trip with me.

but they've started doing that with me in my dreams though... so maybe somehow their views on drugs are changing (they use to stalk me, confront me, etc)


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Re: So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday [Re: leery11]
    #4911795 - 11/08/05 10:41 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Never rolled with my mom, Although I've done plenty of other drugs with her (smoked, drank, yayo-ed ourselves out, and shroomed)

Rolled with my friend's mom though (total milf, tried to fuck her but she was on the rag...else she was down)


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Re: So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday [Re: jarroddupont]
    #4911817 - 11/08/05 10:44 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Taking it alone was a great experience for me. There is so much time to reflect and to just have a great time.

I dont see how X is associated to sex. Maybe something is wrong with me but my dick definitely shrivles up when I roll and it's VERY hard to get a boner. =/

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Re: So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday [Re: VoidOfsPg]
    #4911829 - 11/08/05 10:46 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I only become impetant (sp) when I roll after blowing like 3 pills...

1 pill and I'm fuckhappy like a mother fucker..


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Re: So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday [Re: VoidOfsPg]
    #4911830 - 11/08/05 10:47 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Seriously, its the last thing on my mind when I'm rolling.

Anyway its all going to work out, she has a good friend who's rolled before, so  mom's going to roll with her.  She seems very excited and has tons of questions with topics ranging from pharmacology concerns to eastern religion :lol: I think she's going to love it, I know I do. :grin:


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Re: So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday [Re: Noviseer]
    #4911847 - 11/08/05 10:51 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah she sounds like she's really excited about it. I bet she'll love it.

Sex really is never on my mind when I roll, thats weird. Its always fun to go to wal-mart when you're rolling. We usually pick up a ton of glow sticks and make a few new friends on the way. :smile:

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Re: So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday [Re: Noviseer]
    #4911970 - 11/08/05 11:34 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I might want to do it right before my mother's death or something. It's good that you have this kind of relationship with her. It would do her better if she could take it with your dad. It would really strengthen their relationship.








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Re: So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday [Re: Noviseer]
    #4912156 - 11/09/05 12:33 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I've used ecstasy with my mother, we split a tab of 140mg MDEA between us, that's 70mg each which was ample.

After taking it she got scared right out of the blue and really needed the guidance I could offer.

During the experience she was aglow and we did some great bonding that day.

Your mother should not take it alone but rather with you so she will have expert guidance by her own son. She'll likely be proud you're knowledgable about these things and it's a healthy reversal of roles that you're being the experienced one in these matters who watches over her.
And she needs to talk the hours away.

it can be the best afternoon or evening of the year if you do it together or a fun but upsetting experience if she does it alone.

And when she shouts aloud: "I never knew something this profound was possible!" don't grin too menacingly when you hand her the balloon of nitrous :evil:

seriously: you need to be there and when the two of you drift out of the experience enjoy a fine wine or so while you two descend to baseline. You'll have a lot to talk about.

I've shared MDEA, Opium and Cannabis tea with my mother. Elderly ladies need the comfort of feelgood-drugs more often than an upsetting experience like mushrooms IMO.


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Re: So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday [Re: Asante]
    #4912178 - 11/09/05 12:43 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Tell her not to take 2 at once. I have personally never needed more than one. I would imagine the crash would be pretty bad from two or more.

That is pretty cool that you have that kind of relationship with your mom. I think you guys should roll together. Doing it alone seems alot more of a waste (though not altogether).


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Re: So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday [Re: Asante]
    #4912262 - 11/09/05 01:12 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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And when she shouts aloud: "I never knew something this profound was possible!" don't grin too menacingly when you hand her the balloon of nitrous :evil:






:lol:

She's weighs 45 kg and is going to take 100mgs mdma, is that a good dose for an extremely healthy middle aged woman?  2mgs for kg is supposed to the "benchmark" dose :shrug:


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Re: So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday [Re: Noviseer]
    #4912345 - 11/09/05 02:11 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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She's weighs 45 kg and is going to take 100mgs mdma,




Umm no, thats an awful lot actually.

The benchmark dose has always been a 120mg pill, which given the average person boils down to 1.5mg/kg.
This sets you ABLAZE mind you, this is the full load.

If you put on top of that the fact she's older (which tends to mean drugs act more strongly) I would think 1-1.5 mg/kg is the ratio to aim for, with some 75mg being the ceiling dose, which is about the amount my 60kg mother got.

Remember that MDMA can have a mighty push which can feel forced. I must insist on you being present though.


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Re: So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday [Re: Noviseer]
    #4912379 - 11/09/05 02:40 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

if she wants to do it alone, let her do it,
on the stipulation that you will be in the other room
if she wishes to talk.

after she comes up, she wont want to be alone,
mdma makes you extremely social.


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Re: So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday [Re: Asante]
    #4915219 - 11/09/05 08:21 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

So I got a phone call today from my Dad, who's always been vehemently opposed to any kind of drug use (at least when dealing with me).  He said "I read the letter your wrote your mother."  Oh shit, I thought... I'm in trouble.  But no--turns out he and her are going to take it together!  Both first timers. 

So now it gets really tricky, and I need some advice on the dosage for each.

Dad: 56 years old, 200lbs, health nut, excellent shape: 1.5 hours of daily exercise, hasn't rolled before, doesn't do drugs (not even caffeine).

Mom: 50 years old, 100lbs, even better shape, even more of a health nut.  I'm particularly concerned about her dosage since she's so light... she has a very slow heart rate and low blood pressure due to her intense fitness routine and impeccable diet.  she's actually a nutritionist, go figure.  Drinks a moderate amount of caffeine daily, no other drugs. 

They're going to go on vacation specifically so they can experience the MDMA without the concerns of their normal home lives.  So I want them to roll nice and hard, but not to the point that one of them might be overwhelmed and afraid.  They've both had experience with cocaine, mushrooms, and lsd in their youth, but (to my knowledge) haven't done anything like that since the 70's. 

Any and all advice will be very much appreciated... I want this to go perfect for them.  Really stoked :grin:


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Re: So I gave my mom Molly for her birthday [Re: Noviseer]
    #4915242 - 11/09/05 08:26 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

that's awesome! i hope they have a great time. hell, i know they will have a great time.

i'm sure it will ignite new sparks in their relationship and bring them even closer together.

ask them what they though of it after. i'd love to hear what they thought. it would be very interesting to hear their oppinions about it.


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