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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: DanKnugget]
    #2032106 - 10/22/03 11:01 AM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Aahahah, yeah....

Last summer, trip to Amsterdam, WAY too many Hawaiins. The night before we fly out, most amazing trip I have ever had, until I pissed my pants, the only clean pants I had left. That was fun, waking up in the morning to decide whether I got on the long flight back with clothes I had been wearing for days, or ones I had pissed the night before. I felt so sorry for those poor people sitting next to me.


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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: harken989]
    #2729944 - 05/25/04 09:25 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Let me just let the cat out of the bag:
My ultimate revelation from shrooming has been that all is one. Every person is the same and the thing you think is you is just the sum of your experiences, which has nothing to do with the HERE and NOW and that is all that exists in the entire universe. And on the issue of dose, it is a factor but the most important part is set and setting. Set refering to the mental set, read good books before you trip and if you are truly ready, the level five will bless you, just don't get scared if it is lonley because it is. I have found that with ego death on nine dried grams there was still experiencer and experience but the line between who was what was blurred. I felt as much a part of my environment as I did my body, and I absolutely loved everything! I translated that into I am alone in my own world of my own creation, created and trapped by myself. Can be scary but I believe this is he essence of a level five trip.


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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: mecreateme]
    #4901539 - 11/06/05 06:51 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

To my knowledge, Level 5 is the void. . . . I haven't been there, but, while tripping, I could definitely conceptualize it. It's always amazing how, as your reality expands, so does your imagination.

I also think that simply bombarding your mind with more chemicals isn't the trick. It's mostly chance, but your odds can be strengthened through set/setting.


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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: harken989]
    #4901628 - 11/06/05 07:17 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

""I've gotten over the fear of bad trips simply because there's no such thing. A trip is a trip in and of itself, it's when we start reading into it too much and trying to .. ""

not labeling bad/good..
still labeling levels..

No wonder..

ego = personality?

ego = trying to label others in your way, rather than theirs?

.. :P


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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: Gomp]
    #4901698 - 11/06/05 07:46 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I've reached lvl 5 before. I'd love to do it again but it isn't shroom season here any more.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4649166/an/0/page/0

it's pretty long, massive ego death. head death, i dont know... i was inexperienced and young.


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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: djd586]
    #4902309 - 11/06/05 09:54 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

You described level 5 very well djd586. There is almost an invisible wall between level 4 and level 5. 'Letting Go' is the way through that wall. The two times that I have reached level 5, it took me a couple hours to 'let go', so I didn't get to stay there long. I hope the next time that I reach it, that I am able to 'let go' early and actually spend a couple hours there.

For those having trouble breaking through with heroic doses(7g+), try powdering your shrooms and mixing with lemon juice. The community has an ongoing experiment and most people are reporting results of 2-3x potentiation of your dose. So 7g with lemon could be like 14-21g eaten, and would cause less nausea/stomach discomfort.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Forum1&Number=4714757&page=0&fpart=1


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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: Underhillmaster]
    #4903997 - 11/07/05 11:03 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

you don't need drugs to reach level 5. it is already within you, it is the nameless, the unborn, the beginner's mind, etc.

you cannot describe it, because it is completely beyond words. it is infinite. it is like describing God, and perhaps it is God. it is what monks devote their entire lives to understand, but damned if they could ever put it in words. it simply lies beyond it. it must be experienced. you don't need mushrooms to do it. but they sure make it easier, faster, and more hallucinatory! ;-)


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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: davinox]
    #4904065 - 11/07/05 11:27 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

It's always amazing how, as your reality expands, so does your imagination.




And it is amazing when you see that all that expanding and contracting are done by the same thing. Elaborate outward, and it seems you are learning new things. Elaborate inward, and you see the five sense trap.

More words only get farther away from it, the one. ONE OM O1 1 0
This unity is more than anyone who has never experienced it could possibly imagine. :heart:


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