|
FreeLaws1_6
No Hippy Here
Registered: 01/11/05
Posts: 427
Loc: Tejas
Last seen: 18 years, 6 months
|
Re: We work jobs we hate... [Re: RandalFlagg]
#3764553 - 02/10/05 10:55 PM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Quote:
RandalFlagg said: I masturbate to your avatar. Do you have a bigger version of it?
Hahaha! Were you talking to me? Its a photo called "The Kiss". Im sure you could google it and find it. Enjoy!
-------------------- Free Laws: Things to understand before I am Free 1. I am alone 2. There is Nothing 3. I must actualize myself 4. Sex is a tool for pleasure, not status 5. Dependency restricts me 6. Emotions are dangerous if not administered properly
|
Fliquid
Back from being gone.
Registered: 03/18/02
Posts: 6,953
Loc: omotive
Last seen: 8 years, 8 months
|
|
I just hate working, I rather spend time with my kids. So I can teach them the true meaning of living. And how to read people, and not see the world.
I have so little time for my children.
-------------------- My latest music!
|
Scarfmeister
Thrill Seeker
Registered: 10/31/02
Posts: 8,127
Loc: The will to power
Last seen: 4 years, 8 months
|
Re: We work jobs we hate... [Re: Fliquid]
#3765320 - 02/11/05 02:21 AM (19 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
I love people driving in their new Mercedes feeling all good about them selfs cause i know that a few years down the line they will just be another chump in a shitty Mercedes wishing they where driving the latest model.
-------------------- -------------------- We're the lowest of the low, the scum of the fucking earth!
|
looner2
ABBA fan
Registered: 06/20/04
Posts: 3,849
|
|
Fight club is the greatest movie of all time, and I find it interesting how many different ways it is interpreted. To me, that quote doesn't mean shit about capitalism, working, or anything about bringing down the "system". Without going into details, I feel the quote represents an inner struggle, not a battlecry for the lazy.
-------------------- I am in love with Acidic_Sloth
|
saukkomies
Stranger
Registered: 10/28/05
Posts: 12
Loc: Upper Peninsula, Michigan
Last seen: 18 years, 4 months
|
Re: We work jobs we hate... [Re: looner2]
#4901207 - 11/06/05 05:22 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I think I can tell from your post that you are younger than I. I'm a middle-aged Baby Boomer (on the tail end of the Baby Boom), and you sound very much like my wife who seven years younger than I, and is a Generation X-er. I have a lot of empathy for you, but I just can't quite totally relate because I was engrained in my youth to believe that even though the fight seems insurmountable it is still worth tilting at windmills.
Please know I cast no judgment on you for your feelings of angst and betrayal - hey, I know very well how it is because not all of us Baby Boomers got all the breaks either - especially the ones who came after the big wave and all the cheap real estate and nice jobs were already taken.
But I also really like what you said about the capitalists! I myself am a socialist, and I am calmly biding my time while the capitalists manufacture the rope that is used to string them up to a tree when the workers finally revolt. It's coming.... the Revolution, that is...
Since someone else included some quotes in this thread, I thought I'd join in and provide a couple too - these are from Karl Marx:
"Men make their own history, but they do not make it just as they please; they do not make it under circumstances chosen by themselves, but under circumstances directly encountered, given and transmitted from the past."
"It is a bad thing to perform menial duties even for the sake of freedom; to fight with pinpricks, instead of with clubs. I have become tired of hypocrisy, stupidity, gross arbitrariness, and of our bowing and scraping, dodging, and hair-splitting over words. Consequently, the government has given me back my freedom." --Letter from Marx to Arnold Ruge on 25 January 1843, after the Prussian government dissolved the newspaper 'Rheinische Zeitung', of which Marx was the editor
"All that we want to do away with is the miserable character of this appropriation, under which the labourer lives meraly to increase capital, and allowed to live only so far as the intrest to the ruling class requires it."
"The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them."
"The rich will do anything for the poor but get off their backs."
"A class of labourers, who live only so long as they find work, and who find work only so long as their labour increase capital. These labourers, who must sell themselves piecemeal, are a comodity, like every other article of commerce, and are consequently exposed to all the vicissitudes of competition, to all the fluctuations of the market. The worker becomes an appendage of the machine, and it is only the most simple, most monotonous, and most easily acquired knack, that is required of him. Hence, the cost of production of a workman is restricted, almost entirely, to the means of subsistance that he requires for his maintenance."
Oh, and BTW, I happen to love my job, really.
|
barfightlard
tales of theinexpressible
Registered: 01/29/03
Posts: 8,670
Loc: Canoodia
Last seen: 14 years, 3 months
|
Re: We work jobs we hate... [Re: looner2]
#4901301 - 11/06/05 05:44 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
looner2 said: Fight club is the greatest movie of all time, and I find it interesting how many different ways it is interpreted. To me, that quote doesn't mean shit about capitalism, working, or anything about bringing down the "system". Without going into details, I feel the quote represents an inner struggle, not a battlecry for the lazy.
I think it's both.
-------------------- "What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I fuck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?" - Bill Hicks
|
Shroomism
Space Travellin
Registered: 02/13/00
Posts: 66,015
Loc: 9th Dimension
|
Re: We work jobs we hate... [Re: barfightlard]
#4901576 - 11/06/05 07:01 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
--------------------
|
MushmanTheManic
Stranger
Registered: 04/21/05
Posts: 4,587
|
Re: We work jobs we hate... [Re: CagedHominid]
#4901677 - 11/06/05 07:38 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
The psychology of most domesticated primates causes them push their problems outside of themselves.
|
Acidic_Sloth
Acidic poly-Sided Di-slothamide
Registered: 05/29/02
Posts: 43,732
Loc: ainrofilac
|
Re: We work jobs we hate... [Re: Shroomism]
#4901687 - 11/06/05 07:42 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
that makes me hungry.
i hate you. <3
-------------------- -- Accept my heart warming gift of TREE SCRATCHIES!!! I absolve thee!! -- JaP: 30,000 lines of gay, cock, and fag can't be wrong Ped: only in #shroomery is "smuggle opium in her ass" followed by "i don't want shitty opium" which is followed by " *** Joins: PENISSQUAD" -- JaP: What would this place be without random sluts? JaP: Nothing, I tell you.
|
headset
Stranger
Registered: 12/02/04
Posts: 874
Last seen: 18 years, 2 months
|
Re: We work jobs we hate... [Re: kadakuda]
#4901728 - 11/06/05 07:54 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
kadakuda said: all i gotta say is, get my property and its bye bye society.
I like my Native friends perspective;
"ill just squat government land and say its my own. Ill allow all brothers and sisters to reclaim the land with me."....
talking half fantasy about land ownership, squatting, and stand offs.
Anyways.. i feel the struggle and identify very much with the movie. At this point im pretty much one of those crimethinc kids...
ive quit my last 4 jobs in bizare and unfair ways on a whim, and at my current one, never showed up all last week, and never called for 3 days - i think ill be fired shortly. So im hitch hiking to ontario this week..
i guess its only after youve lost everything that you can start seeing things clearly..
radical culture is interesting to pick apart, but actualization and sustainability are 2 big lifestyle issue's..
|
Shroomism
Space Travellin
Registered: 02/13/00
Posts: 66,015
Loc: 9th Dimension
|
Re: We work jobs we hate... [Re: headset]
#4901753 - 11/06/05 08:02 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
headset said: i guess its only after youve lost everything that you can start seeing things clearly..
This is true for some people. It was for me. It also took that, to realize what I had in the first place and how good I had it, and can have it.. without being a 'slave to the man' or whatever.
--------------------
|
Silversoul
Rhizome
Registered: 01/01/05
Posts: 23,576
Loc: The Barricades
|
Re: We work jobs we hate... [Re: saukkomies]
#4901771 - 11/06/05 08:08 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I've got a couple quotes too, from my favorite social philosopher, Henry George:
"Socialism takes no account of natural laws, neither seeking them nor striving to be governed by them....It is more destitute of any central and guiding principle than any philosophy I know of"
"[In] truth I think that in trying to understand the socialists, you have confused yourself, which I don't wonder. The truth is that they do not understand themselves. As for Karl Marx, he is the prince of muddleheads"
--------------------
|
headset
Stranger
Registered: 12/02/04
Posts: 874
Last seen: 18 years, 2 months
|
Re: We work jobs we hate... [Re: Shroomism]
#4901776 - 11/06/05 08:09 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
yeah, i agree shroomism..
but for now, i find riding a train is alot more inspirational than ANYTHING i can find in a city.
I like to be comfortable.. ya know, and money is alright.. Its just finding a balance of work with something ethically friendly.
ive been reading alot of anarchist literature/stories.. and to think of yourself as a cultural revolutionary in America (canada) in the throngs of THE capitalist and globalized precedent.. Im not sure what that makes us... we have oppurtunity, we are oppressed in less physical ways but perhaps more so through our culture.
anyways, for now, it fills something inside me to stand in opposition and unite under that cause.
|
WormholeSurfer
Stranger
Registered: 10/10/05
Posts: 180
|
Re: We work jobs we hate... [Re: Shroomism]
#4901794 - 11/06/05 08:14 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
yea but Tyler Durden/Jack/Narrator also blackmails his car company (in the movie) and the movie industry / union (in the book).
plus his brainwashed minions also "work" for him for free.
i wish i could live peacefully, more free, without telling other people what to do or having them tell me what to do, while still being comfortable, but the planet is getting way too frickin crowded with the wrong kind of people.
live and let live, is that too much to ask?
|
|