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Tsinaglou
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: Anno]
#4900137 - 11/06/05 10:53 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anno said: >Could a request be added in a forum "how to" that encourages clarity in thread titling?
It could, but do you really think people would follow it?
Some, possibly small, proportion of the time. And then I would feel justified in gently suggesting some of the others clarify themselves...
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ohmatic
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: Tsinaglou]
#4900216 - 11/06/05 11:28 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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i voted no as i do not see the necessity of having another subsection of mush cult.
atm, having the two split forums, is adequately enough for people to post whatever they want to - newbs at mushcult and more advanced users in adv cult.
as from my point of view, this is enaugh. a further splitting of the cult into two forums wouldnt do any good as users would prolly just be like 'fuck it' and post wherever they click first, its all newb in the end anyway.
so, well thats my point of view, i think its unneccessary. peace ohm
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FooMan
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: Tsinaglou]
#4901500 - 11/06/05 06:36 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tsinaglou said: If newbies look up the answers and get in quickly, well, that's the point, isn't it? Get them into the FAQs and search function?
No, the point is to get them to have a general understanding of the process as a whole and not just look for the answer to the test questions in order to gain access to the forum where they will ask all of the "between the lines" stuff they skipped reading while trying to get the quick answers.
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Could a request be added in a forum "how to" that encourages clarity in thread titling? Part of the clutter problem is seeing lots of threads that say "Help!!" or "what about this?" and not knowing what they're talking about unless the thread is opened. Time consuming!
I like that idea, but I can see the effort being in vain, considering that Roadkill has had the "read this before posting + links" thread to help out newbs. If newbs really read that thread and used the links before posting, then this thread probably wouldn't exist.
I think regardless of what is done, there will always be some problem that someone will point out with the system. I compare it to driving- No matter how much you high-beam, flip-off, honk and curse at that guy in front of you in the fast lane of the highway doing 40mph, he's not going to move and he'll be doing the same thing tomorrow, so you just have to drive around him and move on with your life.
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glimmi
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: FooMan]
#4902255 - 11/06/05 09:46 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think that an intermediate forum would be a great idea. There needs to be a place where intermediate cultivators can discuss things im not quite advanced enough yet for the advanced forums and yet the basic cult forum is not quite advanced enough for me. Now i have nothing against awnsering new growers questions i love helping people out and im sure im not the only one on this site who would awnser questions in a beginers forum. But i would like a place where id be able to discuss intermediate topic with out it being burried imediately by a hundred different which is the best strain, how much will i get, where do i get supplies ect. ect. questions. Regarding the split id say not to let new users post in the intermediate forums for 2 months (tho some may think it too long but i say then at least a month). Well thats just my 2 cents.
Peace and love, Glimmi
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scatmanrav
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: glimmi]
#4908274 - 11/08/05 08:37 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think all three forums should be viewable, but a waiting period plus a test would be a good idea before moving out of the beginners forum. Just my thoughts.
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DaCultivater
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: scatmanrav]
#4908933 - 11/08/05 12:06 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well i think that a novice forum is a terrible idea. The admins have enough work cut out for them with what this site already has. Plus the Mush Cult forum is plenty noob enough for anyone. There's always gonna be that noob that posts a dumb ass question in any forum befor doing any reserch at all;"Hey just wondering how to grow the dankest Boomers ever man, any abvise on what the best strains is and what i should grow them in?". theres always gonna be that guy. I'v been a lurker hear for about 2 years and the MC forum is more than enough, people suck if they cant figure it out, how many posts a week is there where some dick asks a streight up retarded question like the example above and 20 people tell him to read the faq and the teks. you would think a noob would see these posts and relise they are not spescial and should do the same.
What i think would help greatly is a small (or larg) test that all people have to take in order to post that is full of info and links. this idea was suggested before and i think is't a great idea.
So thats what i think ,please excuse my grammer and spelling i'm a really bad speller lol.
Peace
-Cult
-------------------- as they said in some movie(i don't remember which one); a belief is a dangerous thing, people will kill over it; instead of believing you need to find your facts and then have an opinionated idea that you are willing to change in light of new evidence
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agar
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: DaCultivater]
#4909009 - 11/08/05 12:26 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dere isa speil cheker fetur yo cud us atda botom, if U lok
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Blue Helix
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: shirley knott]
#4909467 - 11/08/05 02:27 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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In my view, the difference between the message bases for Advanced and Beginners is way too great. If you post something in the beginners, it's a waste of time practically because there is so much beginner chit chat that no one reads the stuff. The advanced forum is really for mycologists more than the hobbyist. Where does that leave the guy who knows the basics but isn't doing professional research in mycology? They're stuck between a noisy subway and a quiet library. We need the coffee shop of mycological talk.
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agar
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: Blue Helix]
#4909511 - 11/08/05 02:46 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well stated & very true. For instance, a new type filter patch & a new type autoclave bag.
Do Newbs give a shit. NO........
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scatmanrav
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: Blue Helix]
#4909514 - 11/08/05 02:46 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Blue Helix said: In my view, the difference between the message bases for Advanced and Beginners is way too great. If you post something in the beginners, it's a waste of time practically because there is so much beginner chit chat that no one reads the stuff. The advanced forum is really for mycologists more than the hobbyist. Where does that leave the guy who knows the basics but isn't doing professional research in mycology? They're stuck between a noisy subway and a quiet library. We need the coffee shop of mycological talk.
Exactly...its not about making a newbie forum as someone said, there already is one, we need the middle forum..perfectly worded IMO.
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Prajna
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: Blue Helix]
#4913376 - 11/09/05 12:47 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Blue Helix said: In my view, the difference between the message bases for Advanced and Beginners is way too great. If you post something in the beginners, it's a waste of time practically because there is so much beginner chit chat that no one reads the stuff. The advanced forum is really for mycologists more than the hobbyist. Where does that leave the guy who knows the basics but isn't doing professional research in mycology? They're stuck between a noisy subway and a quiet library. We need the coffee shop of mycological talk.
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agar
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: Prajna]
#4913997 - 11/09/05 03:19 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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shirley knott
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: agar]
#4914138 - 11/09/05 04:01 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Prajna
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: shirley knott]
#4914235 - 11/09/05 04:31 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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shirley knott
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: Prajna]
#4914473 - 11/09/05 05:31 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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that was pretty unpleasant in there, it was exactly in the right forum for new cultivators. the lazy stoner is no different to you and me, he just needed a shove in the right direction.
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ohmatic
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: shirley knott]
#4916767 - 11/10/05 07:21 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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i really wonder how this is going to work out, as from my point of view, having a 3rd forum wouldnt change the whole "ill opst wherever i feel like" thingy concerning newbs ..
but oh well, we shall see. peace ohm
-------------------- MONOTUB tek HEATBOMB tek RIP #cultivation! ....can't associate? well FUCK U !
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MadSeasonAbove
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: ohmatic]
#4917070 - 11/10/05 09:11 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like the idea of splitting the forum, but there should also be a sub forum for supplies related questions aswell.
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FooMan
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: shirley knott]
#4918473 - 11/10/05 02:57 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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shirley knott said: that was pretty unpleasant in there, it was exactly in the right forum for new cultivators. the lazy stoner is no different to you and me, he just needed a shove in the right direction.
I'd just like to say that I did answer his question in that thread and I was indeed trying to give him a shove in the right direction. I didn't realize that it would turn into a flame fest!
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trippinsillyfool
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: FooMan]
#4932126 - 11/14/05 12:12 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I completely understand everyones views as some beginners can be rather obtuse. Unfortunately, I am a beginner. I have decided to place all of my resources and energies into my pleasure pursuits. As such, being placed into a beginners category would greatly inhibit success, or at least it seems my progress will slowly develop as a result. I do however intend to post questions I can not successfully locate answers to, and I will not respond to questions I am unsure of. Maybe this should be a requirement for all beginners so as to "mold" a forum of logical thinking.? Regardless, please do not place us in a category destined to repeat failure. Thank you, and have a nice day.
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Edited by trippinsillyfool (11/14/05 12:14 PM)
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scatmanrav
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Re: POLL (reworded, pls re-vote) - SPLITTING THE GROW FORUMS [Re: trippinsillyfool]
#4933057 - 11/14/05 03:48 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Everyone seems to think the beginers would be going somewhere. Noobs would stay right here, and nothing would change for them. What were looking for is a place for those of us who are sick of the sillyness to go to answer serious questions from people who have taken the time to do serious research and dont require page after page after page of responses to their threads explaining what they need to do. Not all of us want to do that anymore (detailed responses take time and doesnt help everyone, someone will ask the same question again), there will still be a place for those same old boring questions to be asked, and there will still be those who want to explain it, there to do so..but we need somewhere that doesnt have all that gobbalygook.
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