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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: Gijith]
    #5000537 - 11/30/05 09:38 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

cool.
I was into kde, but I have been attracted to simplicity of gnome.
I'm not into eye-candy so much anymore
and I find kde to be slightly tacky.
gnome is just....plain and simple.
+ as wilshire pointed out, gnome fits in ubuntu better (which I use).
eventually I'd like to try open/fluxbox or some
of the other lightweight windowmanagers.
but for now, gnome :heart:

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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: Vvellum]
    #5131539 - 01/02/06 02:52 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

after using GNOME now for a little over a month, i think i can say that i'll be using it as my default desktop well into the future.

it's simpler and it works well. firefox, thunderbird, gaim, and nicotine are all gtk and work faster and look better on gnome. the only qt app i use is k3b. i always thought that gnome was ugly. i've got a gnome desktop right now that i think looks great. i'm staying.

i am going to try this when it is released though:

http://plasma.kde.org/


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: wilshire]
    #5133763 - 01/03/06 12:05 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

i use fluxbox if i am running a window manager. the reason i gravitated to it easier than most people is because even when i ran windows XP, i used blackbox for windows (bb4win). i like the idea of setting up up from scratch with exactly what i use.... no more, no less. i like the ease of writing the menus to behaive exactly how i like them to. also, being a gentoo'r, i am quite used to working with the command line. i have alt+z as the shortcut to bring up an xterm that runs as my background so i can keep an eye on everything i have logging or working on via the active command line background.

just my 2 cents

btw, here is a good wiki for setting up fluxbox. like all things gentoo, it will force you to learn how to work with it and get a good foundation on how to make it exactly what you like.
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Fluxbox


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: automan]
    #5134210 - 01/03/06 07:30 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I am interested in fluxbox. I have it installed and I'm learning how to configure it. now, what are your thoughts on openbox?

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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: Vvellum]
    #5134622 - 01/03/06 11:39 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

i have never used it. i had no reason to try it since i was happy with fluxbox.


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: automan]
    #5135014 - 01/03/06 01:46 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I gave fluxbox a try just to see what all the fuss is about, but I really don't see the appeal. I can't find anything it does that enlightenment doesn't do, and enlightenment looks nicer too.


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: automan]
    #5135042 - 01/03/06 01:53 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

automan said:
i use fluxbox if i am running a window manager. the reason i gravitated to it easier than most people is because even when i ran windows XP, i used blackbox for windows (bb4win). i like the idea of setting up up from scratch with exactly what i use.... no more, no less. i like the ease of writing the menus to behaive exactly how i like them to. also, being a gentoo'r, i am quite used to working with the command line. i have alt+z as the shortcut to bring up an xterm that runs as my background so i can keep an eye on everything i have logging or working on via the active command line background.






could i check out your entry in ./fluxbox/keys to do this?


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: sherm]
    #5136045 - 01/03/06 06:45 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

this is my keys:
Quote:


Mod1 Tab :NextWindow
Mod1 Shift Tab :PrevWindow
Mod1 F1 :Workspace 1
Mod1 F2 :Workspace 2
Mod1 F3 :Workspace 3
Mod1 F4 :Workspace 4
Mod1 F5 :Workspace 5
Mod1 F6 :Workspace 6
Mod1 F7 :Workspace 7
Mod1 F8 :Workspace 8
Mod1 F9 :Workspace 9
Mod1 F10 :Workspace 10
Mod1 F11 :Workspace 11
Mod1 F12 :Workspace 12
Mod1 f :ExecCommand firefox
Mod1 o :ExecCommand oowriter
Mod1 v :ExecCommand Eterm -name alsa -e alsamixer
Mod1 r :ExecCommand fbrun
Mod4 m :Minimize
mod4 c :Close
Mod1 a :ExecCommand aterm -name aterm -sl 3000 -tr +sb -sr -sk -bg black -fg white -fade 90 -bl -tn xterm -fn -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15 -g 116x57
Mod1 s :ExecCommand aterm -name aterm -sl 3000 -tr +sb -sr -sk -bg black -fg white -fade 90 -bl -tn xterm -fn -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15 -g 116x57 -e -su -





this is my menu:
Quote:


[begin] (Automan)
[exec] (xterm) {xterm}
[exec] (konqueror) {konqueror}
[exec] () {} execname is NULL; cannot lookup
[submenu] (Internet)
[exec] (firefox) {firefox}
[exec] (gaim) {gaim}
[exec] (xchat) {xchat-2}
[end]
[submenu] (Office)
[submenu] (OpenOffice)
[exec] (oocalc) {oocalc}
[exec] (oodraw) {oodraw}
[exec] (ooimpress) {ooimpress}
[exec] (oomath) {oomath}
[exec] (ooweb) {ooweb}
[exec] (oowriter) {oowriter}
[end]
[submenu] (Editors)
[exec] (kwrite) {kwrite}
[exec] (xedit) {xedit}
[exec] (nano) {xterm -e nano}
[exec] (The Gimp) {gimp-2.2}
[end]
[end]
[submenu] (Multimedia)
[exec] (k3b) {k3b}
[exec] (xmms) {xmms} </usr/share/pixmaps/xmms.xpm>
[end]
[submenu] (System)
[submenu] (Terminals)
[exec] (xterm) {xterm}
[exec] (aterm) {aterm}
[end]
[submenu] (Monitors)
[exec] (torsmo) {torsmo}
[exec] (gkrellm2) {gkrellm2}
[end]
[submenu] (X-utils)
[exec] (xfontsel) {xfontsel}
[exec] (xman) {xman}
[exec] (xeyes) {xeyes}
[exec] (xload) {xload}
[exec] (editres) {editres}
[exec] (viewres) {viewres}
[exec] (xclock) {xclock}
[exec] (xmag) {xmag}
[exec] (xcalc) {xcalc}
[exec] (xpdf) {xpdf}
[exec] (Reload .Xdefaults) {xrdb -load /var/tmp/portage/fluxbox-0.9.13-r1/temp/home/.Xdefaults}
[end]
[end]
[submenu] (Interests)
[exec] (Speaker Design) {gspeakers}
[submenu] (Games)
[exec] (kbounce) {kbounce}
[end]
[end]
[submenu] (Networking)
[exec] (samba gui) {smb4k}
[end]
[submenu] (fluxbox menu)
[config] (Configure)
[submenu] (Styles)
[include] (/usr/share/fluxbox/menu.d/styles/)
[end]
[workspaces] (Workspace List)
[submenu] (Tools)
[exec] (Window name) {xprop WM_CLASS|cut -d \" -f 2|xmessage -file - -center}
[end]
[commanddialog] (Fluxbox Command)
[reconfig] (Reload config)
[restart] (Restart)
[exec] (About) {(fluxbox -v; fluxbox -info | sed 1d) 2> /dev/null | xmessage -file - -center}
[separator]
[exit] (Exit)
[end]
[end]





here is a pic for ya:


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: wilshire]
    #5140653 - 01/04/06 08:37 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

enlightenment


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01100110011101010110001101101011011110010110111101110101
jaded = safe != happy
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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: Vampire999]
    #5140771 - 01/04/06 09:03 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

my not ugly gnome desktop:



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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: Vampire999]
    #5141502 - 01/04/06 11:19 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

are you using DR16 or DR17?

looks interesting.


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: wilshire]
    #5142712 - 01/05/06 10:43 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

how did you get that os-x style panel in the bottom? i've been able to get a similar thing running on kde (can't remember the apps name right now...), but for gnome am only able to add panels to the four sides of the screen, and they can't have a transparent background


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: Krishna]
    #5142736 - 01/05/06 10:49 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: wilshire]
    #5142874 - 01/05/06 11:36 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

cool thanks :smile:


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