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Limelight
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Limelight]
#4027196 - 04/07/05 04:08 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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By the way, please keep in mind im not downtalking people who are different. hell, everyone I meet says "damn.. i can't say i've ever met anyone like you." I like being unique, i just don't want to take it to an extreme and be somewhat outcast and have no friends as a result of the dark realms i have experienced.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Limelight] 1
#4027235 - 04/07/05 04:16 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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It seems most people I know who trip alot are a little manic depressive, like everything seems very intense to them, and so they are very emotional. I felt like that for a couple of weeks after my first trip.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Limelight]
#4027238 - 04/07/05 04:16 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well.... let me try another way..
Psychedelics, for me, haven't changed a thing about me. For the very short times that i've been under their influence they've changed some chemistry in my brain and probably some other stuff that i wasn't aware of, but other than that they haven't changed a thing. I've change who i am, and how i think. The only reason that i associate tripping and a changed perspective is because they temporarily let me change my perspective, and see things differently. Nothing permanant was done on account of the drugs, all the changes were my choice.
It's all in you. If you want a change you will seek it out, if you like who you are then you like who you are.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Limelight]
#4027400 - 04/07/05 04:44 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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psychedelics let you see something different. that is all. its just like when people talk about life-changing books. not everyone who reads them changes. the book just shows the reader something he has never really thought about before, and upon thinking about it he changes.
some people read the bible and their life is changed, some read the catcher in the rye and change, sometimes getting to know a new person will change people, sometimes moving to live in a different area will change people, someteimes doing psychedelic drugs will change people. people change through experiences - that's the nature of life. psychedelic experiences can be quite intense, so the changes brought about by them can be quite significant. some people will read or do all the things above and remain pretty much the same person.
maybe right now you're very happy with your life the way it is and you don't want to experience anything different. that's fine. but you also have to accept that you are constantly, although gradually, changing through the experiences you have. that's how personality is developed. an intense experience, such as a strong psychedelic trip, just speeds up the process.
people try to attach themselves to things they percieve as good, and try to reject what they see as bad. when someone is in a 'good' phase of their life, they don't want to change. when in 'bad' phase, they are desperate for change. if we could just accept change as a constant thing; neither fighting it nor craving it, we would probably live more peaceful and content lives. but damn, i'm getting too philosophical now.
the chances are if you do psychedelic drugs; you will have some fun, think about stuff a bit more than usual and probably come out with some subtle changes to your outlook on life. you can still have all your old friends and do the things you used to do. almost everyone who does psychedelics believe they are better for the experience.
my friends who do psychedelics are not loners (except for that total acid-head i mentioned). they are all well-liked and very friendly people.
to be honest i think if you had a strong acid trip or something, you'd end up thinking 'dude, why the hell did i used to think like that?'. but its your decision. like i said about the matrix analogy. you can either see what there is to see and learn from it, or you can stick with what you know and love. either way is perfectly fine; psychedelic drugs aren't for everyone.
-------------------- "Gently return to the simple physical sensation of the breath. Then do it again, and again, and again. Somewhere in this process, you will come face-to-face with the sudden and shocking realization that you are completely crazy. Your mind is a shrieking, gibbering madhouse on wheels." - ven. henepola gunaratana
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: alsey]
#4027568 - 04/07/05 05:20 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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We'll I believe that a mind-blowing trip is very beneficial. Even if it changes you, you wont be changed forever... probably only for a few months, but after that you'll come back to the same old "you", and your ego will become fully intact again.
After a while, you'll probably just shrug it off as another experience of life.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Ginseng1]
#4028478 - 04/07/05 08:48 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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shrooms maye change the way you think somewhat (it did for me). it tends to be that right after the trip u feel like ur going to make drastic changes to ur life (one time on the comedown of 5g shrooms/xtc, a friend and i decided we were going to move to costa rica and live on a farm for the rest of our lives, although its usually nothing like that!) and then u end up not changing that much, although its still kind of in the back of your mind.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: PS_Cubes]
#4028576 - 04/07/05 09:08 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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PS_Cubes said: I have never come out of the trip feeling worse. I almost always have a more profound thinking pattern
Tripping has changed me a lot...and all in extremely positive ways. Words cannot describe what a wonderful gift psychedelics, LSD & mushrooms in particular have been to me. No need to fear my friend, when you delve inside you find yourself.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Dark_Star]
#4029320 - 04/08/05 12:45 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah some of the things people have said are pretty true, but they are flawed in a lot of ways.
Like..all of my friends who trip are loners. Pretty dark..kinda deep, you know. Fuck TV, fuck petty conversation, smoke a lot of cigs. But they weren't mad social BEFORE either. They just stayed loners. All of my friend and I are loners.
I think maybe you're thinking too hard on this. The people in your hall who eat psychedelics, and nobody likes them, they probably wouldn't like them anyway.
And I've recently started to doubt the whole "Get along with people who have tripped" thing. I know a lot of people who have tripped and I'm really not all that comfortable around them. Sure they've eaten acid. So what? It doesn't mean we are anything alike or I like being around them.
I'm not sure how you went from feeling better after my first post to talking yourself into not taking another dose by the last post.
You're thinking about this too much. Just relax, they are just some mushrooms. They aren't any small thing, but I think you've created a monster inside your head that isn't there. You'll still be you. Mushrooms dont MAKE anything change, they just allow you to change if you want to.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: freddurgan]
#4029382 - 04/08/05 01:18 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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From my own experience I can say that my aesthetic appreciation of things has been greatly enhanced as well as my ability to see patterns in nature. Ever since my first trip nature, escpecially plants, has seemed much more mathematical to me.
However, on a more serious level there have been other changes. These are not things I believe that everyone does or will experience, but my disposition towards being hyper-analytical and thinking too much allows them to happen. What I notice is that I am aware of such a vast and large reality that sometimes it fascinates me, overwhelms me or freaks me out. I can just run around in circles trying to understand infinity, or even my own existence. The world does not appear as solid as it used to and I can see through much more of the bullshit and fantasy of our world and human interaction in general. Freinds of mine have let this strengthen a sense of alienation and superiority, which I try to avoid.
If you are SERIOUS, then you may have a serious trip. In which case you may find that your emotional growth is greatly accelerated to a possibly uncomfortable level (not necessarily bad) and your conceptual thinking could get tied in knots trying to understand the expereince. Or not. You could just have a really good time. My advice is that when you trip, don't aim for a specific kind, or try to avoid an expereinces. Whether it is fun or spiritually intense, if you accept it, keep an open heart, don't intellectualize too much, and make use of whatever insights you get, you will not come back a worse person.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Divided_Sky]
#4029455 - 04/08/05 02:06 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Psychadelics dont CHANGE you. you change you and the psychadelics only help you get to where you need to. People may go through that phase of being loners, but more than likely, if they trip, theyll evolve out of it. Its sort of like you just go through shock and you realize that the material things dont really matter...and you want to just go to the extremem and cast it all off. But eventually, youll realize that you live in society. It doesnt matter if you hate it. Dont deny yourself human relations because you dislike the inner workings of society.
THese are all realizations you can make without psychadelics...but they can push you into this direction at a much quicker rate. Youre thinking will simply evolve to new places...as if maturing yourself. Dont worry about changing. Its really much less of a deal than youd think.
Mushrooms are extremely natural and if anything will only push you into your natural progression. Rarely do you have 'earth shaking' realizations that change the rest of your life. Trust me, if its just a stupid realization, youll become sober and realize its dumb...shrooms wont lead you down some path that you dont want to go, you lead you down that path.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Veter]
#4029512 - 04/08/05 02:46 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shrooms - showed me how fun insanity can be. LSA - showed me that a trip doesn't always need to be "powerfull" to be fun. LSD - showed me what my mind can really do when jet fuel is put into the imagination. DXM - Showed my my 1st "spirit guide". DXM+LSA - Showed me that schizofrinia (sp?) can be fun. Mescaline - Don't know yet  Weed - Showed me that being a bum isn't cool or fun for me. Crack - (smoked once w/ a buddy as a joke to call eachother crack heads) showed me that some drugs can be very ugly. Opium - Showed me the dragon is worth chasing.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: thenewuser]
#4030105 - 04/08/05 09:04 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright awesome, I understand now better what you guys are talking about. Freddurgan, you said a good line that i'm not gonna forget. you said i've created a monster in my head that isn't there. That's probably got it right on the head, so I've decided to just go with it now. It's also good to know that you wont change if you don't want to, it's only if you accept it. By the way, I never decided against taking them after your post, it just made me concerned more.
Now i'm cool though, and im taking them after exams in a week or two
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Limelight
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: thenewuser]
#4030109 - 04/08/05 09:07 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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thenewuser said: Shrooms - showed me how fun insanity can be. LSA - showed me that a trip doesn't always need to be "powerfull" to be fun. LSD - showed me what my mind can really do when jet fuel is put into the imagination. DXM - Showed my my 1st "spirit guide". DXM+LSA - Showed me that schizofrinia (sp?) can be fun. Mescaline - Don't know yet  Weed - Showed me that being a bum isn't cool or fun for me. Crack - (smoked once w/ a buddy as a joke to call eachother crack heads) showed me that some drugs can be very ugly. Opium - Showed me the dragon is worth chasing.
Heh. I've only tried opium, weed, and shrooms. I wish I could try LSD Also, what is mescaline supposed to be like? I heard it's way more intense than shrooms. I dunno though, that's just what they said.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Limelight]
#4030927 - 04/08/05 01:22 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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More intense than shrooms? Well it lasts longer, but I think it is actually more mild, mentally anyway. The body high might be more intense.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Divided_Sky]
#4031095 - 04/08/05 02:24 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah it seems mescaline is the most mysterious of all psychedelics because nobody has done it, or at least very very few. I know I haven't.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: freddurgan]
#4031225 - 04/08/05 03:00 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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mescaline is one of the few drugs i still want to try. that and DMT. i'm gonna get some peyote when i have my own house next year. if only i could get those pellets they have in fear and loathing.
-------------------- "Gently return to the simple physical sensation of the breath. Then do it again, and again, and again. Somewhere in this process, you will come face-to-face with the sudden and shocking realization that you are completely crazy. Your mind is a shrieking, gibbering madhouse on wheels." - ven. henepola gunaratana
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: PS_Cubes]
#4877439 - 10/31/05 09:36 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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There is, after your first good trip..a bit of an awkward feeling. Like you don't belong to the world, or that everything has been laid bare, all lies exposed, and the world as it is can seem kinda ugly and dull compared to how alive and motivated you felt as you were peaking..the world seems so beautiful at that moment that the next day everything else, the everyday world seems so fake, so unimportant, that it makes you a bit sad.
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Re: How do you feel "changed" after psychedelics ? [Re: Pax]
#4877835 - 10/31/05 10:36 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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I ate ~4.5g on my first time out and it deffinetly changed my outlook on life. "I" realized that "I" am not static. "I" am ever changing. "I" am a different person now than "I" was before I started writing this post because the action of writing this post and the corresponding thought processes, even the time that has past in the process of writing this, have indelibly (albeit not immediately noticably) shaped that concept which I call "I." In short, I realized that "I" am a culmination of all and eternity.
You may just learn that your "I" does not exist in the same way you think it does.
I also realized how amazing, how completely "unrealistic," how utterly fatastic it is that "I" am even here, that any of us are here. Who'da thunk there'd be sentient bipeds roaming the universe and trying to comprehend its vastness and infinite complexity?
Of course, that's just "me." Your milage may vary.
-------------------- "I ams what I ams and thats all that I ams." --Popeye (The Sailor Man)
Edited by Thef0rk (10/31/05 10:47 PM)
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