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 Re: Shroomism  [Re: ]
#488050 - 12/11/01 10:27 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok, then, to repeat the unanswered questions -
What support do you have to say "they have been threatened"?
Who has been threatened? What have they been threatened WITH? Who exactly has been threatening them (hopefully more revealing than "the government")? Give at least one source for this, if you'd be so kind.
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Re: Shroomism [Re: RedFluX]
#488056 - 12/11/01 10:30 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Backing up a little bit...
RedFlux, I find it ironic that you accuse the 'dropouts' of being close minded towards formal education while it seems to me that you are being just as closed minded about self discovery and/or alternative education.
I'm not trying to say that one is better then the other, because that just isn't true. I think you may misunderstand 'the path'. I'll speak for myself, because that's the only person I can speak for, but I learned more about myself, about life, about the world and I learned more life-lessons then I ever could have learned if I had been attending high school. These are the events that helped shape me. That taught me, because I was paying attention. Because it was the path I chose for myself.
If I had been in school, then I would still have been learning, but I would just be learning differently. I would be a different person. I probably wouldn't even be having this discussion here today.
Anyways, all I'm trying to say is that one is no better or more worthy then the other. They are two completely different ways. No one should be judged or scorned for thier choices, for they are just lessons to help our souls grow.
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Re: Shroomism [Re: cantara]
#488061 - 12/11/01 10:32 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Who has been threatened? Anyone in a position of power who has this information. People don't listen to nobodys like myself, so I'm not a threat.
What have they been threatened with? Death, death of their families, etc.
Who has been doing the threatening? The Illuminati
Hmm a source? I dont think that would accomplish anything, since my sources are not "credible" according to the popular physicists of this board.
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Re: Shroomism [Re: ]
#488069 - 12/11/01 10:37 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wait, let's get at least a couple things straight here:
1) You have "broken the story here" - my friend, this is not even CLOSE to "the mainstream" - this is a side-philosophy board on a website dedicated to the cultivation and ingestion of illegal psychoactive mushrooms. A few hundred people AT VERY MOST read this board. This isn't what I'd call breaking the story. In case I didn't clarify earlier, let me do so now - breaking the story to the mainstream is what I am talking about.
2) The reaction here? You are concerned about the reaction here?!?! Shroomism, in all these posts, there are only 3 people with the occasional 4th that is disputing, or at least asking you for some kind of support for, things you say - while on the other hand you are a moderator here and the other moderator and many others on the same board have said in no unclear terms that "I am drawn to believe things that you say" and more than one has suggested you form a cult!! I would call that better than winning a few and losing a few.
3) Even if you WERE concerned about the reaction - who cares? Let's review, carefully now, stay with me:
a - you are in possession of knowledge whose accuracy you are certain of
b - you are in possession of knowledge that you know will endanger all human life as we know it
c - you are in possession of knowledge of something that will happen just around the corner
d - you are in possession of knowledge that you can PROVE beyond any doubt, to anyone who will look through a telescope, because you have these coordinates.
e - you are not afraid of being ridiculed, laughed at, or otherwise derided, as you have carefully explained in a previous post. Quite the opposite Shroomism, you have been "taught' that you are to "expect" it.
Now, in light of ALL of that - you have proof, you have knowledge that you are certain will endanger us all, and you aren't afraid to be ridiculed - you choose to break this information on no larger a scale than a philosophy board on a site dedicated to those who grow and/or ingest magic mushrooms?!
One has to wonder which of the above statements characterizing your willingness to accept incredulity and your faith in this subject matter, is false.
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Re: Shroomism [Re: ]
#488074 - 12/11/01 10:42 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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>>>>>>>>Hmm a source? I dont think that would accomplish anything, since my sources are not "credible" according to the popular physicists of this board.
Oh come now Shroomism - you don't mind a little disbelief, you've said so yourself. You realize that to make statements of *fact* (like government has been threatening peoples' lives, their families' lives, etc), and very serious allegations of fact at that, as opposed to statements of "opinion" (I think trees are more interesting to be with than flowers) without even bothering to quote a single source, must leave anyone with even a slightly critical eye (you know, critical, meaning you don't believe anything you read on a website BB that sounds truly unbelievable without some kind of support) feeling that something is rotten in Denmark.
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Re: Shroomism [Re: ]
#488079 - 12/11/01 10:44 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Freaky.. I have that sign. Yet it's not my actual birth sign, but I have it.
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Re: Shroomism [Re: cantara]
#488082 - 12/11/01 10:46 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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I never said nor implied that this message board is the only place I relay this information. I go to annual meetings on this subject, am working on a webpage, and a book. I also talk with many people about this in 'real life'. I'm not about to walk into Fox studios and tell them about this, I would be laughed out of the office.
This message board is just practice for me
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Re: Shroomism [Re: cantara]
#488101 - 12/11/01 11:00 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dont know if you are familiar with Project Star Wars? I don't know all the details, but it is a government funded project involving a weapon capable of destroying a comet or meteor that comes too close to Earth. They plan to have it completed by 2003. This of course, will not happen.
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Re: Shroomism [Re: ]
#488102 - 12/11/01 11:01 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Going to annual meetings is great but
a) you've only got one of them left if the sh*t is hitting the fan in Spring/Summer 2003 and
b) You are preaching to the choir in those meetings. I happen to play chess, and I can go to a chess club every weekend, but that isn't increasing the popularity of chess in this country. I'm preaching to the choir.
I still would imagine that with some hustle and incentive (the latter of which you certainly must have, given you know the world is going to essentially end as we know it in about 16 months), and the proof that you say is irrefutable, you HAVE to be able to find a few amateur stargazers who can corroborate it and start some kind of a commotion. People generally want to help people, and assuming for a moment this thing was legit, with some hustle and using the very powerful tool of the internet you should be able to find a number of people who DON'T ALREADY FEEL THIS WAY, i.e. are disbelievers right now, show them the proof, and start something happening.
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Re: Shroomism [Re: ]
#488104 - 12/11/01 11:03 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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>>>>>>This message board is just practice for me
Good, practice quoting reliable sources, which you will DEFINITELY need for your book, and give me some!!
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Re: Shroomism [Re: cantara]
#488109 - 12/11/01 11:05 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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At this point I don't care whether someone believes me or not. I'm only stating what I know to be true.
Its in the mass consciousness... Just think of all the movies in the past three years dealing with Mass death/comets/aliens etc...this is to prepare people for such an event
Independance Day
Armageddon
Mission to Mars
The Final Storm
I could probably name about 20 more, but I'm thinking too fast right now.
Have fun
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Re: Shroomism [Re: ]
#488112 - 12/11/01 11:08 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you don't care whether someone believes you or not, then you shouldn't have any problems quoting some sources to me - takes no time out of your life, as I assume you already have a number of them for the book - and then if I don't agree, you don't care. There is the possibility I might agree, and help the cause, which if I put myself into your shoes, I would be trying very hard to promote if I felt as you do.
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Re: Shroomism [Re: ]
#488116 - 12/11/01 11:08 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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I might be a little bit behind again, but this caught me as especially odd:
>And can you cite me some kind of support for the statement that "they were told to shut up, so they shut up"?
Umm, open your eyes man, they're talking about this shit right now on the news... My grandma is talking about it. Everybody is talking about it. (At least they were a week or two ago, before it got boring.)
The government does tell them what to air, what to report. Man, where've you been! They've been debating it on friggin CNN for gods sake!
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Re: Shroomism [Re: cantara]
#488123 - 12/11/01 11:17 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Shroomism [Re: ]
#488124 - 12/11/01 11:18 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Independence Day was released 5.5 years ago....
And, movies dealing with "mass death/comets/aliens" aren't exclusive to the last 3 years (or even 5.5), I hate to tell you - this is easily the most popular subject matter in sci-fi, which is one of the biggest genres since film was invented. So, yes, "mass death/comets/aliens" are in the mass consciousness, but they have been for a very, very long time and I would submit no more recently than previously. I'll go out on a limb and say the way the dinosaurs met their demise sparked the collective human imagination and started making us imagine, and believe, all kinds of interesting things.
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Re: Shroomism [Re: Ulysees]
#488131 - 12/11/01 11:21 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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>>>>>>>Umm, open your eyes man, they're talking about this shit right now on the news...
So your viewpoint directly contradicts Shroomism's, then, as things that the government wouldn't allow the media to report, WOULDN'T BE BEING TALKED ABOUT ON THE NEWS. I am sure Shroomism thanks you for that support of his/her position.
>>>>>>The government does tell them what to air, what to report. Man, where've you been! They've been debating it on friggin CNN for gods sake!
Hehehe, I'll just let this quote speak for itself - "the government does tell them what to air, they are debating it on CNN". That's classic.
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Re: Shroomism [Re: cantara]
#488134 - 12/11/01 11:25 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alright, laugh if you want, but you've just missed the point by a mile.
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Re: Shroomism [Re: Ulysees]
#488142 - 12/11/01 11:29 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh, and I'm not talking about some grand scheme here, I'm talking about the situation in which the US gov. doesn't want the media to air the Bin Laden tapes... And yes, they are talking about it on the news, they're talking about the censorship, and if it's perhaps necessary during these times...
If you live on another continent, I can understand your ignorance of this very simple fact. If you live here on North America, you obviously have isolated yourself from people and media... in which case I don't think you should be talking about what the media does.
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Re: Shroomism [Re: Ulysees]
#488143 - 12/11/01 11:31 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Please clarify, then.
We were discussing whether the government tells the media what it can and cannot air. I was asking for some support for that statement, which (s)he made as a factual statement.
Then you said, where have you been, of course the government tells the media what to air, they have been discussing this on CNN.
Doesn't that sound a little strange? The only conclusion permissible is that the government allows CNN to debate on-air whether the government tells the media what to air - is that your belief?
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Re: Shroomism [Re: Ulysees]
#488147 - 12/11/01 11:35 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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And one more point about this:
If they are talking about the fact that the government is censoring them, the government has obviously chose not to censor those conversations. See? It's not rocket science. The gov wouldn't just censor everything, they're not that stupid.
Think of the shit that would hit the fan if the gov told them that they were not allowed to talk about the fact that they're not allowed to talk about something... There would be serious issues with that, and people would be pretty pissed when they found out.
There ya go, common sense is lost on some people...
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