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 Shrooms from space 
#486686 - 12/10/01 10:47 PM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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i find it extremely interesting that mushrooms spores are one of the few things that can survive in space. we have even found spores on meteorites. this firms up my belief that mushrooms are extremely important to the human race, not to mention all other possible races.
it blows my mind to think that mushrooms are something that can be found on any planet in the universe. it's like a higher being is telling all of us that they are important and that there is a universal message to be conveyed through them. it also blows my mind that they are illegal in the US. i am very disgusted with that, to say the least. anyway, just wanted to throw that out there. discuss!
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 Re: Shrooms from space [Re: lissa]
#486693 - 12/10/01 10:52 PM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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As far as I know viruses can survive in space also, this make them important? Should we consider the importanceof the herpes virus? I doubt it. Some things really are "just a coincidence" if ya ask me... Just checking.
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Viruses exist for a reason. They are just as important in the grand scheme of things as say mushroom spores.
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: ]
#486714 - 12/10/01 11:09 PM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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i find it interesting that mushrooms breathe oxygen, as opposed to carbon dioxide.
as for the virus thing... i would have to agree with shroomism on that one.
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: lissa]
#486753 - 12/10/01 11:41 PM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would call mushrooms the Universal Mind, or medium.
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#486782 - 12/11/01 12:11 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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I agree, I think mushrooms are a Medium to contact (or intensify the communication with) higher beings. I definately sense an "alien" feel to shrooms...
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: Adamist]
#487177 - 12/11/01 08:41 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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mushrooms seem to transport me to another world. maybe the place we're all going to in the end?
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: lissa]
#487188 - 12/11/01 09:07 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in about mushrooms breathing oxygen and not CO2. Nothing on earth breaths CO2. Plants use CO2 in photosynthesis.
(6)CO2 + (6)H2O + sunlight = C6H12O6 + (9)O2
Plants use O2 for their own metabolism, they just produce more than they use. All the O2 produced is releaced into the air. The oxygen they use for metabolism is absorbed though roots and leavs.
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: lissa]
#487237 - 12/11/01 10:07 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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sporulation was developed by the prokaryotes (bacteria and their allies) --- fungal and other eukaryotic organisms that use spores are johnnie-come-latelies...
(see lynn margulis and dorian sagan's _microcosmos_ for a readable telling of the story of bacteria... everything gaia needed to know she learned in the precambrian... well, except for sex & death, maybe...)
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: lissa]
#487841 - 12/11/01 07:14 PM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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Didn't Terrence McKenna have a theory that psilocybin mushrooms were transported from another planet and the spores survived the journey through space? Maybe it wasn't him, I forget. It always tripped me out thinking that maybe the "alien" world that we are transported to on shrooms is actually what their home planet is like? OK maybe its a stupid idea but its still interesting to think about.
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A few years back I had a very bad trip on a ton off PF Classic 'shrooms. (you would never believe how much I ate!) What I remeber the most was terrible vivid visons of aliens everywhere. During that bad trip I actually was convinced that the aliens were trying to merge with our species via the mushrooms! (' talk about POTENT)
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: Jammer]
#487879 - 12/11/01 07:48 PM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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And do you now believe that true reality was revealed to you or that you wer just tripping?
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 Re: Shrooms from space [Re: Swami]
#487891 - 12/11/01 07:57 PM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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I will be the first to admit that I was tripping. But, honestly, I'm not sure what to make out of it. What was really weird was how I kept seeing the sterotypical alien's face. Like the faces were everywhere I looked for about 8 hours!! I didnt see pink elephants or anything other weird thing.... ' just seen totaly creeped out of aliens with insect like bodys! (that was the ONLY time that I have such a trip)
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: Jammer]
#488039 - 12/11/01 10:15 PM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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the first time i ever shroomed i had an alien voice speaking to me inside of my head. i am convinced this voice was real, not just a hallucination. though i'm sure the shrooms helped me tune into whatever message i was supposed to be hearing.
the message was a loving one, and the clouds in the sky shifted into aliens and golden pyramids as the voice spoke.
the idea of shrooms giving us the opportunity to glimpse another place (an actual physical place) is very plausible to me.
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: lissa]
#488041 - 12/11/01 10:17 PM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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has anyone read the martian chronicles by ray bradbury? that is a great book of short stories concerning aliens, telepathy, and social commentary. sort of random i know, but i was rereading it the other day thinking how everyone should read it....:)
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: lissa]
#488271 - 12/12/01 01:56 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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it blows my mind to think that mushrooms are something that can be found on any planet in the universe
That may indeed blow your mind, but as yet no life, including mushrooms, has been found on another planet. Perhaps you can enlighten us on what you base this statement?
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: lissa]
#488275 - 12/12/01 02:04 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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i find it extremely interesting that mushrooms spores are one of the few things that can survive in space.
The possibility (this has not been demonstrated - only postulated) that they can survive doesn't mean that they come from space. Let's not mix attribute and causation here.
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: Swami]
#488281 - 12/12/01 02:18 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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Agreed. We could have put them there just as much as they could of come from another planet,
But lets see, mushrooms exist here on earth, but i can't think of anywhere else.
So, lets conclude. If they are in space they are from here. Prove me wrong, as of yet you can't.
However, i would be estactic to find life on another planet, if fact i beleive that is inevitable.
As for mushrooms being sent to us from aliens, i think you people take tripping a lil too literally, remember, its the drug talking and fucking around with ya brain. Mental patients see aliens also, they have disorders, be glad you don't see what they see or hear everyday of their lives.
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: Jammer]
#488283 - 12/12/01 02:26 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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Jammer, i got chills reading about your bad trip, now that that image of the alien is my mind, i'm afraid to trip again...
Once on shrooms and acid, i realized that the moon is a door way, and that man has gone to it the wrong way. you get there with a space ship, and there is nothing there....but you get there with your mind, and you can go to a another demention
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: Jammer]
#488439 - 12/12/01 08:37 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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But, honestly, I'm not sure what to make out of it.
I believe that this is the correct stance to take.
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: lissa]
#488445 - 12/12/01 08:45 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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the first time i ever shroomed i had an alien voice speaking to me inside of my head. i am convinced this voice was real, not just a hallucination.
I too, have heard the "voice -in-the-head" whilst tripping and am convinced that it is a "voice -in-the-head" that I hear whilst tripping. I don't know of any more that can be said without pure speculation.
If the voice told me that the Bulls would win 107 to 99 tomorrow and they did, I might be convinced there is some validity to them.
Even if the voice is real, the message may or may not be. The "voice" once told me to ask a lovely young woman to marry me that I hardly knew. I did and she said yes. A few months later she left me for another. So what does it mean?
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: Swami]
#488538 - 12/12/01 10:39 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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>> So what does it mean?
that bitches ain't shit but ho's and tricks
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: Swami]
#488548 - 12/12/01 10:46 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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yeah, don't trust the voices..if I believed anythig the voices told me, I'd be chilling in the nuthouse
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: Prellgott]
#488554 - 12/12/01 11:01 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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Spores can survive the vacum of space, but what about unfiltered solar radiation?
What about those voices......
One person that I consider wise, told me not to speak with any spirit. He said that any spirit that would communicate with a person was breaking a law from God that was laid down at the time of the flood. Only a bad spirit would talk to a person. He says that they imitate peoples dead loved ones, masquerading as ghosts.
My friend says that they are tricksters like snakes and not to be trusted because they sometimes mislead people.
I know that there are people here who probably communicate with spirits.
I dont want to start controversy, but does anyone here have any views on this?
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no one knows anything for sure.... it's all just speculation really.
i was raised catholic and told a lot of things i consider bullshit now. can't believe everything you hear.
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: lissa]
#488645 - 12/12/01 12:15 PM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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ive talked to the snakes, they made me afraid...
ive also talked to beings who i can only call large bodys of mass, because thats what I sensed them as... they didnt make me afraid, they let me love... it was wonderful
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: Adamist]
#489113 - 12/12/01 07:27 PM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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I read something about someone finding a meteor with a psilocybe print inbedded in it a couple milliion years old, of course I can't validate that though. However, I wouldn't put it past consciousness to deliver aid to itself where it needs it.
Interrestingly enough the last time I ingested mushrooms I had the idea that we were all half extra-terrestrial. It came to me while I was thinking why we have tendencies that no other earthling creature does. For instance covering the earth with asphalt and concrete and building huge steel structures and keeping our world illuminated with street lamps. It seems we have a very hard time accepting the nature of this planet, or at least part of us does. Maybe thats just the alien in us coming forth.
Think about how we feel when we bond with earth. THe warm loving feeling like succling next to our mothers breast. Its calm and reassuring and peaceful. Then think about our strive to develope our technology, to reach back to the stars. To strive in the insatiable quest to one day become like our father. This is just a theory after all tho, but what do you guys think? Maybe i should put this under its own post?
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Re: Shrooms from space [Re: vivid]
#489125 - 12/12/01 07:38 PM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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good words my friend. I am a hybrid, though I'm genetically spliced with a cucumber. I have that warm maternal feeling quite often all over. .....back to where I came from......
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