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Re: St. Maarten LSD lab linked to US [Re: D.M.T] * 1
    #20496636 - 08/30/14 09:50 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Donald Shackelford and the governments motion to exclude time under the speedy trial act good bit of facts about the case for those of you interested in learning more on Shackelford. Many already know all this but it's here for those who don't.


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Re: St. Maarten LSD lab linked to US [Re: Kman1898] * 1
    #20500813 - 08/31/14 10:22 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Also for anyone interested in more info on Jeffrey T. Viola aka Jeff Hutchinson. Born 5/1/1955 and died 6/16/2009. Personal Business Flyer and A personal paycheck


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Re: St. Maarten LSD lab linked to US [Re: Kman1898] * 1
    #20525695 - 09/05/14 10:25 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Especially for Learyfan and Filamentous...

Spoiler video goes I depth into black market LSD manufacture. It details many of the chemists we have all discussed such as Richard Barth Sanders aka the "Eric Ghost" and other I don't know. Bill Weeks is mentioned and some other obscure but big names! He also details which synths that used and if they chromatographed it. What if anything does anyone know about Victor James Kaiper/Kuiper?

This video details black-market LSD manufacture and if you start at 15 minutes 50 seconds he begins to talk about Victor James Kuiper and then details the remaining big names

Watch the whole video it's a nice treat.

I'm sure we will find out more in Scully's book for he doesn't talk too much about it other than the fact that he's using ergotoxine base as the precurosr. According to press reports, he used 6.3 kg of ergotoxine base between December 22, 1966 and October 18, 1967. According to press reports, he was caught with $38 million dollars worth of LSD.


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Re: St. Maarten LSD lab linked to US [Re: Kman1898] * 1
    #20525891 - 09/05/14 11:10 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Ergocristine is probably the ergotoxine being referred to.
"not to mention stuff on the Victor James Kapur acid manufacturing bust (north London 1967, the first such bust after criminalisation)."


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    #20529036 - 09/06/14 05:27 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

thanks for the proper last name. Added a bunch of relevant stuff below, read the book, lots of interesting things!

The way I understood it was ergotoxine base is a mixture of equal proportions of ergocristine, ergocornine and ergocryptine, the latter being a 2:1 mixture of alpha- and beta-ergocryptine.

Info on Victor James Kapur, proprietor of New North Chemist in New North Road, Islington. Excerpt from Albion Dreaming - A Popular History of LSD in Britain" by Andy Roberts

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When Nathan, an accomplice to Kapur, was searched, he was found to be carrying a condom containing what analysis later revealed to be approximately 19 grams of LSD in powder form. This package was handed to him by Kapur just moments before. An unspecified amount was subsequently found under the seat of Kapur’s car.

By following the paper trail left by Kapur, police discovered that he had made numerous trips to Germany to buy Ergotoxine, the key raw material from which he would make LSD. Kapur had actually bought the chemical from a British company, but claimed it was for sale to a continental business and he would take delivery of it there. The police were surprised to find that the first purchase of Ergotoxine was in September 1966. Personal records indicate he ordered 6.3 kg of ergotoxine base between September 1966 and November 12, 1967. His doses were ~200ug and even allowing for mistakes and failures, from Sept ‘66 - Nov ‘67 he made an estimated 3 kg of LSD or 15,000,000 hits. He had 2 labs but the labs only had traces of LSD....Britain’s first trial for the manufacture of LSD began on May 16, 1968 and lasted to May 31, 1968. Victor Kapur was sentenced to nine years imprisonment for his role as the chemist, to run consecutively with five other sentences of up to two years.

"Albion Dreaming - A Popular History of LSD in Britain" by Andy Roberts.





Also found this little tidbit about another chemist out of the UK busted in 1969.

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A friend gave Peter Simmons a partial recipe for LSD and when his dealing partner located a full formula for LSD at the Patents Office, he decided it was time to find a chemist who could turn his dream into reality. His first two chemists worked from a laboratory he set up in a caravan on a site outside London. This turned out to be a disaster. They were disturbed by a neighbour knocking at the door and, believing it to be the police, they flushed the drug away. This lab had cost Simmons £1000 to set up, no small amount in 1968.

The second attempt, using a chemist named Quentin Theobald, was initially much more successful. Another lab was constructed, this time at Theobald’s house at Hythe in Kent. Theobald knew what he was doing and asked Simmons for the best equipment, including such items as a rotary evaporator. The cost of the lab caused Simmons to “go up several gears in my dealing” to provide the funds for this laboratory. The lab lasted for three production runs. The first run produced a gram of liquid LSD that they sold in 100 vials. It was sold as liquid because the chemist couldn’t manage to crystallise it. They managed to get the second run solid enough to put it into capsules for sale. Although Theobald was a competent chemist, the flaws in the manufacturing process meant that they were unnecessarily handling the LSD and were drunk a lot of the time.

The finished product sold well and gave them the impetus to continue making the drug. However, all was not well. Flushed with his success at being an acid chemist, Theobald began to boast about his unusual career at parties. Being an LSD chemist carried considerable kudos in the counter culture and it’s easy to see the social advantages of his boasts. But his indiscretions meant that word of their activities was out and it was only a matter of time before the police got wind of their laboratory.

During one production run, Theobald and an old friend got blind drunk while trying to solve the problem of how to crystallise the LSD. The drunken evening ended with them falling asleep having forgotten where they had put the fruits of their labour. When Simmons arrived the next day, he found a filter paper on a windowsill covered with a chemical mess; the missing LSD, left exposed to the air and sunlight for over twelve hours. Simmons thought it would be inert but wanted to test it anyway. So with no knowledge of what the dosage would be he randomly cut a lump off the paper and ate it. The LSD hit shortly afterwards as Simmons sat watching cricket on the village green. He managed to stagger through the overwhelming hallucinations back to the lab where he retired to bed before losing consciousness. When he came round several hours later, still heavily under the influence, he estimated he had taken a dose between ten and hundred times the usual dose.

The third LSD production run had just been completed and the drug was in crystallized form when the police simultaneously raided Simmons’ London flat and the acid lab in Hythe. At the trial, Simmons received five years in prison, Theobald the chemist seven years. Simmons believes his sentence was high because details of the Manson trial had recently dominated the media. This is unlikely. Though sentencing was inconsistent when it came to LSD, five years imprisonment for producing substantial quantities of the drug was light when compared to sentences in the late Seventies.

"Albion Dreaming - A Popular History of LSD in Britain" by Andy Roberts.
 




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Re: St. Maarten LSD lab linked to US [Re: Kman1898] * 1
    #20529107 - 09/06/14 05:43 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I'm very curious about overseas manufacturers.


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Re: St. Maarten LSD lab linked to US [Re: filamentous]
    #20529134 - 09/06/14 05:52 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm very curious about overseas manufacturers.




what do you mean by that?

Also, IMO [REDACTED] is back churning out miss Lucy. The "new" crystal on the block, berkley silver, makes me think this. As many of you probably know berkley silver has been around before. Actually it was flowing about the same time Shackelford was producing.

Not to mention his alias Wyndowlicker, from the forums he posts to, has gone dark. He also took down his facebook.

All is speculation but still food forthought


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    #20530600 - 09/06/14 11:15 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I haven't heard much aside from the Operation Julie groups, Casey, and Donnie.  I want to know more about the German labs etc.


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    #20530723 - 09/06/14 11:39 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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I haven't heard much aside from the Operation Julie groups, Casey, and Donnie.  I want to know more about the German labs etc.




Don't forget Victor James Kapur. Of course Ive got 2 or so paragraphs about Tord Svenson but I'd be curious to learn so much more. He's one of the the few I know so little about.


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Re: St. Maarten LSD lab linked to US [Re: filamentous] * 1
    #20530729 - 09/06/14 11:40 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

On a somewhat related note, has Tim Scully finished his book? If so, where is it available for purchase?


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    #20531772 - 09/07/14 05:36 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

The book isn't finished yet.  As for tord, he was directly involved with Ron stark.  From what I know tord made quite a few kg of LSD that wasn't very pure.


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    #20533524 - 09/07/14 03:16 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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The book isn't finished yet.  As for tord, he was directly involved with Ron stark.  From what I know tord made quite a few kg of LSD that wasn't very pure.




Yeah book is definitely not done. He's probably going to wait until "Eric ghosts' wife passes before he does. All the info I have on Tord is from Leonard Pickard, as I've never seen anyone else with a shred of details on him.


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    #20534187 - 09/07/14 06:02 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

LP talked about tord?  Did he know him?


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    #20536610 - 09/08/14 06:58 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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In 1968–1970 the Paris and Orleans labs of Ron Stark and Tord Svenson purportedly produced several kilograms of LSD and from 1971–1972 their Belgian laboratory reportedly produced another several kilos, all distributed via the Brotherhood of Eternal Love as "Orange Sunshine." Stark eventually was arrested in Italy in 1975, where he served four years. He was arrested and deported in 1983 from Holland to the US where he faced conspiracy charges, in US v Sand and Scully et al. in San Francisco, but the charges were eventually dropped in 1983. He died in San Francisco in 1984 from a heart attack.
Tord Svenson





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March 5, 2008 (Req. No. 08-0758-F) (request for NADDIS record of deceased LSD chemist Torr Eric Svenson, specifically: "1.) Svenson's NADDIS Index or summary, pointing to - and constituting the practical means for accessing - records in DEA's Investigative Filing and Reporting System (IFRS); 2.) I do not request the associated IFRS records at this time, but only the Index.") Status: On May 5, 2008 DEA assigned a tracking number. On January 27, 2009, after conducting a search for Svenson's records, DEA responded that no records were found after a query of NADDIS/IFRS and requested more information on the subject, specifically "A specific event/geographical location (with specific dates) that the DEA participated in connection with Mr. Svenson." These criteria were provided on September 28, 2009, stating: "Attached is the result of a Social Security Death Index search, indicating that Tord E. Svenson's DOB is 1/7/37 and his SSN is 022-28-0985. it is likely that DEA has records relating to Svenson, for testimony in U.S. v. Timothy Scully, Nicholas Sand, and Lester Freidman (N.D. Cal. 1974) alleged that Svenson's clandestine LSD laboratory was investigated by IRS as part of a joint DEA-IRS inverstigation. The following information (from the pubic record) may be helpful in locating Svenson's NADDIS record and other responsive material to which NADDIS points: Tord Svenson was arrested in Boston, Masachusetts on November 29, 1967 in a drug lab reported by the press as an LSD operation. He was also known as Todd Sorenson, Tom Wilson and Ralph Conner. His associates included Ronald Hadley Stark, Richard Kemp, Michael Boyd Randall, Thelma Berg, Lester Freidman, and Ed May. He used the alias Todd Sorenson during the period of 1971-1972, when he worked at Laboratorie Le Clocheton near Brussels, Belgium, later investigated by DEA." DOJ/OIP remanded an appeal to DEA (Appeal No. 09-1294). DEA on August 5, 2010 restated it was unable to locate Svenson's NADDIS. (Comment: This request was made on behalf of Dr. Tim Scully.)

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    #20658427 - 10/04/14 08:25 PM (6 years, 19 days ago)

  The video mentions Wayne Johnson, Tim Wyland, Lawrence Hocevar, Ted Rinehart and Timothy Dyce.  I'm not sure if any of them were chemists or just distributors.


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    #21023608 - 12/25/14 03:17 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Amazing bits and pieces of LSD history in this thread - so much mystery and intrigue...two chemists pop up and mysteriously go dark during the course of the thread...subscribed.

Kudos to all for the interesting info!


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    #21023657 - 12/25/14 04:02 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Donald Shackelford and the governments motion to exclude time under the speedy trial act good bit of facts about the case for those of you interested in learning more on Shackelford. Many already know all this but it's here for those who don't.




I cannot access the link, and when I go to the docketalarm.com link from page 1 in this thread it seems to want me to pay for the access..


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    #21023910 - 12/25/14 09:16 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Donald Shackelford and the governments motion to exclude time under the speedy trial act good bit of facts about the case for those of you interested in learning more on Shackelford. Many already know all this but it's here for those who don't.




I cannot access the link, and when I go to the docketalarm.com link from page 1 in this thread it seems to want me to pay for the access..



I don't have access to all my files at the moment as its Christmas and I just switched to a new computer so it'll be a bit. Here's some info and a working link.
https://archive.org/stream/gov.uscourts.dcd.118477/gov.uscourts.dcd.118477.10.0_djvu.txt


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    #21023913 - 12/25/14 09:20 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Btw so glad I revived this thread! There's such a wealth of info that we've all contributed too! Just glad I didn't listen to the haters for reviving a +5 year old thread.


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