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OfflineFURR
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no fruiting
    #485886 - 12/10/01 12:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I've got 2 B+ cakes and 3 ecuatorian in my terrarium. All of them were short in water when the cakes were inoculated. Mycelium developed in 3 weeks(ecuatorian), and 6 weeks(b+). All the cakes have been in the terrarium for 5 weeks now, and i only got 2 mushrooms from one ec.cake + another one from another ec. Nothing from the b+ cakes so far. The cakes are covered with withe, fluffy mycelium, no contamination. RH is 90-95% (perlite), and temp range 57-63 F. I'm heating the terrarium recently to 65-75F, but RH has dropped to 85-90%. What am I doing wrong? Should i discard those cakes and start all over again? Pls, help. Thanks


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Re: no fruiting [Re: FURR]
    #485930 - 12/10/01 02:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Crumble and case.


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Re: no fruiting [Re: puscle]
    #486008 - 12/10/01 03:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I like it when you answer big questions with 3 words... just like Dirty Harry or something :laugh:.

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Re: no fruiting [Re: FURR]
    #486141 - 12/10/01 05:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

So, should I just crumble the cakes on top of a moist verm layer, cover them with more moist verm and place them back in the terrarium?
another question: what was the mistake in the first place?(RH, temp)
Thanks


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Re: no fruiting [Re: FURR]
    #486147 - 12/10/01 05:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

follow a casing tek. it tells you what to do, what to use, and how to do it. shroomery.org/grow find/casing (i believe)

later


Edited by MrBrown (12/10/01 05:15 PM)


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Re: no fruiting [Re: FURR]
    #486159 - 12/10/01 05:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

your temp is was to low. 74-78. all the time.


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Re: no fruiting [Re: carbonhoots]
    #486547 - 12/10/01 10:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah he's right about your temp. Kepp that new increase in temp, case using a casing tek, and that lower humidity will be better since your using a casing. Good luck.

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Re: no fruiting [Re: Trail_Blazer]
    #487280 - 12/11/01 01:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Ok, guys, thanks. I will case those cakes and keep that temperature high, and see what hapens. Do you think that using just moist vermiculite for casing will do the trick?
Thank you all.


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Re: no fruiting [Re: FURR]
    #487394 - 12/11/01 02:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yes it would. its your decision tho. i hear the larger verm works better in casing layers.


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Re: no fruiting [Re: BeppoMarx]
    #487703 - 12/11/01 07:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You can 50/50 steralized soil and vermiculite mixed with water(Moist, Damp, NOT SOGGY) in a 2" layer on the bottom. Crumble the cakes into baby fist size chunks on top of this. Cover With 1 1/4" damp steralized soil.


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Re: no fruiting [Re: FURR]
    #488597 - 12/12/01 01:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I just cased those cakes (they looked kinda dry) in 2 layers of wet vermiculite, since i'm not really sure of how to sterilize common soil. I will let you know the results. THANKS


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Re: no fruiting [Re: FURR]
    #488608 - 12/12/01 01:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i hope its not to wet!!!! i would assume just pc the common soil


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Re: no fruiting [Re: mystic1]
    #488661 - 12/12/01 02:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

can you microwave soil like you can verm. to sterilize it?


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Re: no fruiting [Re: FreakShow]
    #488665 - 12/12/01 02:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

micro wave will also dry it significantly too!!


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Re: no fruiting [Re: FURR]
    #488686 - 12/12/01 02:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Not too wet, just moist. How long do you pc common soil? I assume you add water before you sterilize soil. I can use microwave oven instead, again water added before sterilize, around 3 min, cover with saran wrap and let cool. Is that the right way? Should the casing layer be totally covered before moved into the terrarium or just a few patches of mycelium is all right? Once in the terrarium, should i mist it daily or air humidity is enough?
Lots of questions, huh?
Thanks


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