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 ralphster44
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 P. cyan prints 
#485197 - 12/09/01 04:09 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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 Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: ralphster44]
#485205 - 12/09/01 04:20 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd like to get one off you if you don't mind. I already have Pan Trops I'm working with though, so give the prints to the people that "need" them first : ) I'm wanting to try out a lot of different species. Pans are what I'm messing with first, I wanna setup a few outdoor beds of ps. cyans and/or azures though.
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All thats stated above is for humor and a lie!!
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: ralphster44]
#485209 - 12/09/01 04:24 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psilocybe cyanescens is not a cubensis r., it's a totally different specie. If you don't know that much, who knows what you're giving away!
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: ]
#485224 - 12/09/01 04:40 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hehe, I'm pretty sure that was a typo.... still, its just a buck either way though
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Vitamin C chase, kill the taste. You can tell its nasty by the look on my face.
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All thats stated above is for humor and a lie!!
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trade omlet
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: DarK_SavioR]
#485311 - 12/09/01 06:36 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psi cyanscens is a different speciesthen cubensis, but im sure that was a typo. It would require the use of wood in order to fruit, and cool temps (around 45-60F.) Its not like cubensis at all. Much more potent as well.
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ralphster44
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: trade omlet]
#485498 - 12/09/01 09:43 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: ralphster44]
#485962 - 12/10/01 12:43 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not so sure everybody knows. There are many people here who know diddley squat about shrooms, thats why they come here, to learn.
Try to get your information straight when it comes to specie names, I've seen you get it wrong several times. Thats not right. As a vendor, you have a responsibilty to provide correct information. You can start by learning how to properly write out a specie name...Genus (the first word) is always capitlized. The second word (specie) is always small case. To be really correct, the whole thing should be italicized.
Class dismissed...I hope you learned something.
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: ]
#486432 - 12/10/01 07:31 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yo captain max... did you mean the specie name is suppose to be lower case? heh, just teasing : )
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 Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: ]
#486496 - 12/10/01 08:14 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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So Max, two weeks ago your telling us that B+ and Golden Teachers are infact the same Cubensis spore-race, now your telling Ralphster how to properly categorize Psilocybes and how he should advertise?? There is something very wrong there...
And Ralphster is not a vendor - he runs the FSR
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 Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: Zen Peddler]
#486573 - 12/10/01 09:00 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: Zen Peddler]
#486790 - 12/11/01 12:16 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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>And Ralphster is not a vendor - he runs the FSR
Ralphster also successfully runs the Myco-Tek?s spore division, in case you wasn?t aware.
And something to the P. cyanescens: They grow on wood debris, so one would best transfer wood based spawn to an outdoor bed made of moist woodchips, best composed of hardwood woods. In spring, as allready stated, and then one can expect a fruiting in autumn. So nothing for the impatient.
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: Zen Peddler]
#487158 - 12/11/01 08:09 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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First off, rolf IS a vendor. Anybody who says he isn't is a lier. He runs a business called 'Ralphs Spores' and charges about the same prices as everyone else. The FRS something different altogether.
Secondly, who knows where his cyan pritns came from. They were donated by some kid, prolly found growing beside a sidewalk, they might not even be cyans. My prints come from a 3 foot block of mycellium, a 1000 shroom patch and is the healthiest strain I have found yet here on Mt. Elphie where they grow naturally.
Thirdly, rolf is a lier for saying I promote these as being grown indoors. They actually can be grown indoors, I've seen pics but on my cyan page I promote an outdoor tek and have always explained that these are normally grown in an outdoor plot. Go her to see proof that roldf is a boldfaced lier
http://www.sporelab.com/cyans.htm
bluemanie, I never said GT and B+ were the same, I said I'd seen them referred by others as being the same so you are a lier too.
So what we have is a thread full of liers.
When people make mistakes with specie names, I will always correct them, I don't care who they are. I'm not 'butting in' to your thread rolf. The spreading of misinformation is wrong and if you aren't sure of the names then you should welcome someone like me who can help with the correct information.
Edited by CaptainMaxMushroom (12/11/01 08:19 AM)
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: ]
#487307 - 12/11/01 12:00 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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"The FRS something different altogether" -Max
Hey Capn', if you are going to call yourself a vendor then you should be able to properly reference the free spore ring  :
FRS = FSR
I wouldn't have said anything but I noticed how concerned you were about this kind of "misrepresentaion of information" so, I'm sure you understand.
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: ]
#487329 - 12/11/01 12:17 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Max,as a vendor you should be ashamed of yourself! If anyone makes a comment in one of your numerous advertisement/threads that you translate as negative,you immediately call them names like "troll" or "sockpuppet".But lately you have taken it upon yourself to enter every thread in this forum,just to start flamewars.Angry about somethin Max? To many of your dirty prints and syringes being returned or talked about truthfully on these boards? You get what you sow,negative for negative.
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: ]
#487389 - 12/11/01 12:54 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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cat, ther is a big difference between somebody flouting complete lies about the quality of my products and somebody simply correcting a wrongly posted mushroom name.
and mcspam, i know how to spell NARC
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Zen Peddler
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 Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: ]
#487849 - 12/11/01 07:22 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anno - as the prints advertised were from the FSR - and not Ralph's personal prints - i concluded that he wasnt really acting as a vendor this time...
As for Ps.Cyans from Mount Elipha?? - I find it interesting that MAX says they grow naturally, since Mjshroomer has often demonstrated that Ps.CYanescens have only ever been found in the US ONCE from an un-disturbed natural environment - maybe some research is needed?
Secondly Max, if the prints are purple black then they are a psilocybe - so instead of stating that it is impossible to determine whether or not Ralph's prints are indeed Ps.Cyans. - it can be determined quickly that they are psilocybes...
Thirdly, you are a capitalistic arsehole - your prices are ridiculously high - and your products from what i have read - are of poor quality. Your blatant attempt to mislead and capitilise on newbies do not need to be mentioned here, as a quick search through your post history will demonstrate this fully ...
You are attempting to capitalise off WILD cyan prints when you cannot guarantee their sterility.
Are you still also going to start marketing the infamous z strain for the low price of $80??
Bad karma is coming your way...
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: ]
#487956 - 12/11/01 09:02 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why not join a flame? heh, just wanted to say this. Its nothing personal to anyone, but I think its pretty bad for a vendor/distributor to jump onto another vendor/distributor's thread and post up negative stuff. I haven't seen many people doing this, most seam to play nice togethor : ) If ralphster was charging $10 for these wild prints I could understand someone saying something about it, but he's just giving them out. He started the FSR and it seams like thats just ralphster's personality to spread spores. Ralphster is a honest guy
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Vitamin C chase, kill the taste. You can tell its nasty by the look on my face.
Ralphster44 & The FSR!
All thats stated above is for humor and a lie!!
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: DarK_SavioR]
#487964 - 12/11/01 09:09 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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When I said "if he was selling them for $10" I just meant that if he was out to make a buck you could try and criticize on the quality of the prints. $10 isn't a bad price anyway, I was just trying to make a point. Didn't intend on that to sound like I was targeting captainmax.
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Vitamin C chase, kill the taste. You can tell its nasty by the look on my face.
Ralphster44 & The FSR!
All thats stated above is for humor and a lie!!
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: Zen Peddler]
#488410 - 12/12/01 07:42 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dark Savior, all I did was point out the error in the naming, I do that to anybody.
bluemeanie, there are many natural patches of Psilocybe cyanescens here in the Robert's Creek area on Mt. Elphinstone, BC. Some can be traced to their origins. For instance, I know of a garden where they grow alongside the wood making up the garden boxes. This is a common way for this specie to travel, on lumber. I know another spot where the cyans grow all along underneath a fence. These spores originated from the lumber used to make the fence.
From these areas, the spores blew into nearby yards, etc. where they grew naturally around alder trees or in rhododendron gardens.
These mushroom grow throughout 'the Creek' now, along the roadsides, in peoples back yards and fields, even in huge vacant lots covered in blackberries. The kids make tunnels through the blackberries and pick to thier hearts content. These are 'natural' patches, they grow with no assistance from humans. Nature does all the work from dispersing the spores to providing the proper substrate and enviromental conditions.
btw, at 3 spore syringes for $25, my prices are about the best there are and $10 for a print of this most potent of species, coming from a reliable source, is a damn good price!
These are not a handful of prints taken from some sordid specimens found growing in a ditch in Portland, Ore. or somesuch, these prints are all from primo, handpicked by myself, specimens found in a huge patch in a healthy enviroment of clean air, water and soil on Canada's west coast.
Ever see the book The Mushroom Cultivator by Paul Stamets and Jeff Chilton? Jeff lives in Robert's Creek and this is where he did work which provided information for the book.
We are the only vendors in the world who offer cyan prints and syringes year 'round for the past 5 years, another SporeLab 'exclusive'. Visit the Psilocybe cyanescens Homepage.
Good day!
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: ]
#488895 - 12/12/01 04:11 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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'Natural' habitat meaning an area of undisturbed mulch like that deep in a forest - the areas that you are talking about are all disturbed habitats in that they are gardens or environs where man has made changes
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: Zen Peddler]
#489061 - 12/12/01 06:39 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you actually thnk that mushrooms all start out in the deep forest? Many mushrooms grow ONLY in distrubed areas.
After consulting several books, here is a list of plants that cyanescens likes to grow around: under mixed woods at the edge of lawns, along paths, in rhododendron and rose gardens, near lupines and azaleas, on lawns rich in lignin, near alder, eucalyptus, in landscaped areas and mulched flower beds. Not one mentioned anything about forests and you certainly won't find any of the above trees or plants in a PNW forest. It is natural for this specie to grow in disturbed areas.
Why do you even try to argue with me bluemanie? You live in OZ, correct? You've never seen this mushroom and never will. I on the other hand have been studying many patches that surround my property for several years. I am a founding member of a mycological society and several of our members cultivate this mushroom easily and can provide me with all the info I need. Give it up!
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#489362 - 12/12/01 11:14 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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How can you be a vendor when you dont even know what your talking about - If you read my post I SAID that they only grow in disturbed areas - YOU were the one claiming that they grow in NATURAL habitats..
You sad arsehole! Psilocybe Cyanescens flourishes right through Victoria Australia - you yourself listed one of the known plants that this mushroom grows under as Eucalyptus - an Australian native plant - ARE YOU COMPLETELY IGNORANT?? Ask Mjshroomer - Ps.Cyanescens fruits everywhere in southern Australia - some pics of recent finds:
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: Zen Peddler]
#489482 - 12/13/01 02:07 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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there some nice photos! think i'll give an outdoor bad a shot next year. i'll have to see if ralph has a print left!
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: Zen Peddler]
#489612 - 12/13/01 08:03 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh, so you DO have some bluemeanie, congratulations! Too bad that you didn't understand that it is natural for them to grow in disturbed areas.
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: ]
#489703 - 12/13/01 10:35 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Max, you should try being more respectful and attempt to actually read a persons complete post b4 flaming them for things they never claimed. I think it would save you from all this trouble you cause yourself all the time.
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: Anonymous]
#489750 - 12/13/01 11:36 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Screw you mcman, don't talk to me about respect after what you did.
Blue....none of the books commonly found in North America (ie: Stamets Psilocybe Mushies of the World, Aroras Mushies Demystified, Audobons N.A. Mushies) list Australia as a place where these mushrooms grow. United Kingdom, yes, Germany, yes, Sweden, yes, OZ..no! So maybe should notify theser experts that we rely on for information, Stamets, etc. instead of inferring that vendors should already know this.
It sure ain't a cubensis!
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: ]
#489924 - 12/13/01 02:31 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you guys had ever listened to Stamets lectures he claims in all his years of studying mushrooms he has never seen a naturally occuring patch of wood loving psilocybes found in the forest. He had never heard of anyone else finding one either. 25+ years of research and looking is a long time.
They are always where people are. Any disturbed areas by people. Face it...they like us humans, even Capt. Max
I have a friend in WA that attempted a huge outdoor patch of p. cyans. For 2 years he's had this large area 10' X 15' of colonized alder chips growing in this secluded area in the forest. About 100 yards from any road. Conditions are ideal and they fruit all around the city in Seattle. Yet his secluded patch in the forest has not produced a single mushroom in 2 years and he can see the p. cyan mycelium running all through it. Kind of strange dont ya think, no people are around giving it love so they wont fruit.
Food for thought.
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: Ryche Hawk]
#491325 - 12/14/01 06:17 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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The closest ive seen is a Ps.Subaeruginosa flush in the middle of 100 year old pine plantation - but despite what Max says i never claimed this in the first place - He did...
Max - Stamet's book is getting old - you should rely on more up-to-date literature = MJshroomer has a poineering work on Psilocybes of Australia and New Zealand available on erowid and it is by far the most reliable work available...
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Re: Ps. cyan prints [Re: Zen Peddler]
#491687 - 12/15/01 01:40 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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I really don't give a damn about mushrooms in Australia...and your off my xmas list.
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#491822 - 12/15/01 06:46 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Off your xmas list! HA! No one is on your xmas list unless they pay you -
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 I come in the name of PEACE [Re: ralphster44]
#492030 - 12/15/01 12:48 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Chill
You will all survive this.
You are not representing the spirit of the mushroom. I bet the mushrooms would disagree with all of you.
Mushrooms don't fight.
I think it is in the best intrest of everyone to be forgiving and kind. Everyone does things others don't like. Accept the way people are and be kind to them. You can yell at the sun to set but it will not until it is time. You can yell at the stars to go away but they will not. Is it not you that is resisting the way. Accept the way. Be kind and accepting of all life. You will not go awry with a kind heart.
I still like all of you. I'm not taking sides.
Spread some Peace people. We must progress. Never digress. Fall one step back. Lets take three forward.
This universe is rectifying itself. There will be no room for negative actions in the future. Your good hearts see through evil. Not forgiving, slandering, arguing, Thats evil. Forgive and make peace! 
Humans use natural as an excuse. What is natural and how could you know. The universes expanse immense; but a speck you sit on Earth. Microcosmos too many to number. The way is much greater than can ever be imagined. Nature is the universe. Man does not understand the Universe. Man does not know what natural is.
I'm done. Just be nice people. Demons are mean, Angels are nice; next time think of whats right and think twice.
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