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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: blissedout]
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The Iceman, Richard Kuklinski. :crazy2:


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"The truth is you're the weak and I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin', Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd."


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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: SneezingPenis]
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psilocyberin said:
a character from a movie by matthew Barney.


I replied to the right person and you already said who was in your sig, in your sig.


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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: blissedout]
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who actually looks at replies...

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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: _Aegis_]
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Don't fuck with a Polack.

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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: _Aegis_]
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_Aegis_ said:
The Iceman, Richard Kuklinski. :crazy2:


I'm Googling this!


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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: Srirachi]
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"He looked at me wrong, so I killed him!" ... "I was the tree that hung him."


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"The truth is you're the weak and I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin', Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd."


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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: Toddo]
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Toddo said:
Report back if you start to feel anything. :smile:


oh yeah, hah.. pretty damn baked :blazed:


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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: _Aegis_]
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Cyanide poisoning is a terrible way to die.  It interferes with the cellular enzyme system that processes the body's utilization of oxygen: The victim asphyxiates as the cells starve.  If ingested, there's a burning in the mouth and throat, and the victim quickly grows dizzy and disoriented.  While it's possible to survive cyanide, it's a fast-acting poison that tortures as it kills.  Often the pathologist doesn't think to look for cyanide as a cause, because the pinkish spots on the skin are consistent with carbon monoxide poisoning as well.  However, if detected before the body absorbs it, a bitter almond smell lingers in the corpse's mouth, tipping savvy investigators to cyanide's use.

Murder by poison is usually committed in families or close groups, because the victim generally must ingest it.  That requires getting close and even developing a bit of trust.

That's what the Iceman counted on.


Richard Kuklinski - The Iceman
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Richard Kuklinski, a scam artist, had learned how to use cyanide to take out those who stressed him, and now he had to take care of one of his own associates.  Gary Smith helped him steal cars to resell for profit, but he was a weak man and the police were on to him.  There was a warrant out for Smith's arrest on the charges of stealing and cashing checks.  It was just before Christmas in 1982 and to shield Smith, Kuklinski was moving him around from one New Jersey motel to another.  It wasn't that he liked Smith.  It was that he was afraid that the man would talk.  Already he'd defied orders and hitchhiked home to see his daughter.  There was clearly no way to control him?. except for one.

Fellow car thief Danny Deppner assisted him, but there was a warrant out for Deppner as well, and he, too, could not keep his mouth shut.

Kuklinski let Deppner know through his estranged wife, Barbara, that it was time for Gary to "go to Florida," which meant it was time for him to die.  Kuklinski had tired of hiding him and footing the bill, not to mention bringing him food every day in whatever hotel he was in.  He was concerned that one or the other of these men would willingly make a deal to save his own skin, and he was not going to let that happen.  If Kuklinski was anything, he was careful.


Gary Smith, victim
One evening in December, in the York Motel off Route 3 near the Lincoln Tunnel, Kuklinski brought hamburgers to room 31.  Smith liked burgers, so that made things easier.  Kuklinski handed over the bag of food, giving one wrapped burger to Deppner, who knew that his was okay.  They both watched as Smith wolfed down the other burger, but nothing happened.

Kuklinski was puzzled.  He'd mixed cyanide in ketchup and it was supposed to work pretty fast, but Smith wasn't showing any sign of it.  He took another bite.

Then he started to choke.

Kuklinski was pleased.  Finally the stuff was working.  Smith was losing control, but he still wasn't dying quickly.  Kuklinski signaled to Deppner that it was time for the next step.  Deppner took a lamp cord and put it around Smith's throat.  He tightened it several times until his colleague-in-crime was no longer breathing.  Even as he performed this grisly task, he probably knew he was watching how his own death would play out one day?maybe soon.

When Barbara Deppner failed to return with a car to remove the body, Kuklinski had Smith placed beneath the mattress and box springs.  Let someone else find the guy.

And someone did.  Four days later, just after Christmas, the fourth couple to rent the room complained to management of an ungodly odor.  When the mattress was lifted, the bloated, blackened body that had been baking all that time in the heated room was found.  It was later identified as Gary Smith.


Danny Deppner, victim
While Deppner did the killing, he realized that now he knew too much.  Kuklinski didn't like that about anyone.  When people learned too much about his business, they were gone.  Deppner knew that his turn was next and there was nothing he could do about it. Since there was a warrant out for him for burglary and car theft, like Smith, he was being kept in a variety of motels, compliments of Kuklinski.

Then one day in January 1983, there were no more trips to motels for Kuklinski.  The "problem" had been solved.

It wasn't until May that a giant turkey buzzard signaled Deppner's whereabouts.  A man on a bicycle rode closer to see what the bird was doing and noticed a large shape wrapped in green garbage bags.  When he saw a face and arm sticking out from a tear in the bag, he alerted the police.  They noted that the dumpsite was just over three miles from a ranch where the Kuklinski family often went riding.  From photos in his possession, they were able to identify him.  The cause of death was "undetermined," although pinkish spots on the skin were noted and photographed.

Kuklinski became a prime suspect, but he proved to be the devil himself when it came to getting evidence on him.  The man was clever and elusive.

These were not Kuklinski's first murders.  In fact, he'd been killing since he was fourteen years old, usually for profit but sometimes just to rid himself of a problem.  By the time he took out Smith and Deppner, he'd been a hit man for the Mafia.  But it wasn't his sociopathic personality that earned him the nickname "The Iceman."  It was something else.

:psycho:


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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: blissedout]
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That'd be him. :crazy2:


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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: blissedout]
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Richard Kuklinski always had a deal going, and usually several at once.  He stole cars and expedited trade in pornography, guns, and drugs.

Anthony Bruno points out in his book, The Iceman, written with Kuklinski's cooperation, that he first killed someone in 1949 when he was fourteen years old.  Protecting his territory against a bully, he fatally beat the other boy, although it surprised him to hear the next day that the kid was actually dead.  It also filled him with a sense of power.  He now perceived himself as "someone."  He grew up into a controlling man who tolerated no one's defiance or disrespect.

On a televised documentary on HBO, Kuklinski described his first premeditated kill as an adult: In Jersey City one evening, he'd used a car bomb triggered by gasoline to kill a man.  As he walked away from the exploding car, he felt nothing.  That was his way.  He detached himself from his victims, an attitude that he claims came from having to detach himself from the abuse his drunken father inflicted on him as a boy.  In fact, he had a brother Joey who'd gone to prison at the age of 25 after raping and killing a twelve-year-old girl and throwing her body from the roof of a building.  He threw her dog to the ground with her, and for that he got life in Trenton State prison.

Kuklinski planned on avoiding that fate but he didn't really care who he hurt.  He just had to make sure it couldn't be traced to him.


Roy DeMeo
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Eventually he got involved in business deals with the Brooklyn-based Roy DeMeo, a one-time butcher's apprentice and the most feared hit man for the Gambino crime family.  While Kuklinski wasn't great about collecting money due, DeMeo saw that "the Pollack" had what it took to kill people.  Kuklinski admitted that he'd do anything for money, so DeMeo took him to a place where they spotted a man out walking his dog.  Without a thought, and on command, Kuklinski walked by the man and then turned and shot him.  That brought him deeper into DeMeo's inner circle and he witnessed DeMeo's volatile moods.

In fact, DeMeo had a strange assembly-line approach to his killings.  According to a former associate, the target person would walk into the club.  He'd be shot by one person, wrapped in a towel by another, and stabbed in the heart by yet a third person.  Then he'd be cleaned up, drained of blood, laid out on a pool liner, and hacked into pieces that were packaged like meat and tossed into a dump.  Kuklinski knew he had to be careful, and once for no apparent reason he was nearly annihilated by the paranoid DeMeo.

Yet when DeMeo's renowned temper and mania for killing became disorganized and conspicuous, he fell out of favor with the Gambino family.  A hit was put on him and eventually he was found shot to death in the trunk of his car in January of 1983.  While by some reports, Nino Gaggi did the hit, Kuklinski smiles at the idea that it might have been done by him.  "He outlived his usefulness," was Kuklinski's comment.  At any rate, the man responsible for well over one hundred killings was now gone, but not before he'd taught Kuklinski a thing or two.

Apparently he killed a number of other people during the 1970s, but the first one that police linked to him was George W. Malliband, Jr., from Huntingdon, Pennsylvania, who was in the pornography trade with Kuklinski.  Early in 1980, he left home with Kuklinski to meet with Roy DeMeo.  Malliband owed DeMeo money, and since Kuklinski had vouched for him, it was now on Kuklinski's head.  DeMeo was furious and it would be in character for him to shoot them both dead on the spot.

What Malliband did not realize is that Kuklinski's own anger had been simmering since Malliband had come to his home the summer before.  Kuklinski never allowed his business to penetrate his family life, and he'd been furious when Malliband had just walked into his yard during a family gathering, asking for him.  Now that he was in a bind, Malliband reminded Kuklinski that he knew where his family lived.  It was a veiled threat and that was the last idea Malliband ever had.  Kuklinski pulled over and shot him five times with a .38, right there in the van.

Then he was faced with a body disposal problem.  He decided to put the guy into a 55-gallon steel drum, but Malliband was six-foot-three and weighed 300 pounds?almost matching Kuklinski's own enormous frame.  Kuklinski knew it wouldn't be easy, and it wasn't.  He stuffed the corpse into the drum, headfirst, and found that he couldn't quite make the legs fit in.  The answer was to break one.  Cutting the tendons behind the knee, he snapped the leg forward. Then he placed the top on the barrel, secured it, and rolled it off a cliff in the Palisades.  It hit some sixty feet below.

Kuklinski paid off DeMeo and washed his hands of George Malliband.

On February 5, the owner of a Jersey City building at the foot of the cliff noticed the dented drum.  The lid had popped and something was sticking out, so he went closer.  When he saw two bloody human legs, he ran to get the police.  They traced the corpse's identity, and soon heard from Malliband's brother that he had been seriously afraid of Kuklinski.  They now had a suspect.

It was a year and a half before a similar murder was performed, and much longer before the victim was identified, mostly due to an idea Kuklinski got from a man named Robert Prongay, a.k.a., Mister Softee.

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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: blissedout]
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One of his more original hits goes as follows.

Kuklinski walked to the door and knocked. The victim came and put his eye up to peep hole where he was staring down the barrel of a gun. BANG. Goodnight. :psycho:


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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: _Aegis_]
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Sounds like Saw:2


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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: blissedout]
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Sadly I havent seen the Saw movies yet.


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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: _Aegis_]
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sadly i have...

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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: SneezingPenis]
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Yeah, they are weak.

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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: blissedout]
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all the horror movies these days suck. Ammetyville horrors was ok, but not that damn great either. If anyone knows of some good ones let me know.

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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: johnson657]
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Dagon

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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: SneezingPenis]
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i just saw this really weird "horror" "thriller" movie last night, called high tension

it's more gorey than it is good, but nonetheless entertaining


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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: SneezingPenis]
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LNC I gotta go. See yas tomorrow.

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Re: LNC, bitches!!! [Re: Srirachi]
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see ya 'round

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