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Thai Koia Samui
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For all the vendors that carry this particular strain of P. Cubenis how would you rate it concerning colinization and fruiting speed as well as it's potency?

I hate to pester you with petty questions that could have been asked on the cultivation thread but would prefer your advice over other non vendors (no offense guys) assuming you would have more detailed knowledge on the subject.

I'm basically looking for the best over all strain for speed, yield and potency. Any info that would point me in the right direction would be appreciated.

Thanx, Hollywood

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Hollywood]
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Edited by Mycotek (06/17/02 09:20 AM)

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Anonymous]
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I totally agree there is a lot of hype around em. they aren't even that visual.
Speaking on Thai ks.
Still a decent strain and easy as can be.
they are definatly speedy that is a fact, they provide a very speedy buzz. If you like speed go for the"ks"

Edited by psilocybinjunkie (12/09/01 06:36 PM)

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
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Man this strain is starting to remind me of PESA. Everyone brags it up as being soooo potent. Then it's like mostly a body buzz. (I have only sampled Thai Koia Samui once, I kinda thought that I seen visuals)

What ever happen to strains that truly made people trip? A speedy body buzz isnt what many consider trippin. Like, wha? No mothership? Man, the PF Classic strain is starting to look apealing all over again.


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Jammer]
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Out of five stars I would rate Koh samui to be a 5 for colonization speed, a 3 for yields and a 4 for potency. I havent tried too many strains, but out of the ones I have tried this is a pretty descently potent mushroom. As for yields I have had some very good yields with it. About a 1/2 oz dry off one casing was my best. The thing about the koh samui that I have noticed is that you either get alot of small fruits(average about 3 inches) or a few medium to big ones (average about 7 inches.) If your going for the best all around I would say Ecuadors. The colonization is slower than Ks but the potency and massive amounts of fruits make up for it. Also the Thai Lipa Yai are one of my favorites. Same as equadors but faster colonization. Little bit smaller fruits too. Anyways that is my two cents.

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
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I completely agree with you guys. I also found KS to be speedy and not very visual. Personally, I found them too speedy. I had beautiful flushes on an out doorbed. It produced small fruits of about 1.5-3 inches tall. Even though it produced nice flushes I was not impressed with the potency, and Iam a light weight.
For potency, and nice visuals I would also recommend equadors. They simply rock.

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: isis]
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Eq's are nice so are Mazatapecs!
Not all that speed with them.
Just good visuals...

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
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im kinda dissapointed i havent seen much word on THE's plantasia but from personal experience i would give it a fairly high rating fo colonization it gave a nice heavy(extremely heavy) even pinset with moderate to small fruit and excellent visuals ie lots of rainbows lots of things turning into other things and lots of fun


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: fuzzysquirelnuts]
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So someone is saying that the Pink Buff isnt too good?? I was about to try that one... I found the Lipas to be big yielders but again - i wasnt THAT impressed with the trip - better than B+, but not sooo good when compared to Golden Teachers and Tasmanians and as someone said - good ole PF class/Matias Romero


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Zen Peddler]
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When you say they are speedy are you saying that they give you a speedy buzz or that they colonize and fruit to fast? Sorry for the dumb question just wasn't sure what you ment.

Hollywood

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Hollywood]
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I mean that they give a speedy buzz.

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Hollywood]
    #487281 -

isis is correct.
But both are true about this strain.
You can give it a try it's worth a try but not a repeat!

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: fuzzysquirelnuts]
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I ordered Lipa Yai, Pink Buffalo, and Plantasia from T.H.E. my first time out. I grew the lipa yai first on grain and was very pleased with the results. They colonized quickly and were very potent. I didn't get many but the ones that grew were 6 to 7 in. on average. I tried the pink buffalo next and lost all to bacterial contam. I am drying my first flush of the plantasias and I am very pleased with them also. It colonized very quickly and gave a nice first flush. I can't wait to try them.

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: ]
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See every body has their favorite.

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Hollywood]
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If you guys really want to see this cub excel to its full potential try it on a dung based substrate.

Our Thai Koh Samui is one of our absolute best yielders, and certainly fastest fruiters. Even though we've seen some colonize faster, the thai ks alwasys fruits first.

I've seen a lot of varied results from pics ppl have posted from growing this one on grain. We've always grown it out on dung based substrates and it absolutly rocks. Although it does not grow very tall, it makes up for it thickness and density.
I've eaten this one many times and never had a complaint about potency from anyone, but then again they were always grown out on a substrate high in tryptamines.
Another note on the Thai KS is this one is very contam resistant. Rarely do we see the substrate turn green after the compst is spent.
Its definatly -Clyde's- favorite for all the above reasons.

I see McMan is back posting as MycoTek [thumbdown]




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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Ryche Hawk]
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i sold a quarter of this straing (thai K.S.) my friends split it up, said it was the hardest trip they've ever had, most potent. 4grams each :) i used BRF and verm for substrate and an all verm casing. it was my first time growing


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: redzone]
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I don't think anybody would dispute that it's very potent.Too damn speedy for me though.

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Re: Thai Koia Samui *DELETED* [Re: Ryche Hawk]
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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: ]
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I never said it did not grow well on grain. I personally have not grown it on grain but I get plenty of feeback from customers that do that are very happy with that cub.

All I'm saying is if you want to see its full potential grow it on a dung based substrate. Although that statement can apply to any cubensis. Look at the mexi cubs for example, on grain they grow very small, on dung they increase size by 10X easily.
When the KS is grown on dung it becomes extremly thick and dense. What appears to me a semi small mushroom ends up weighing very heavy. Thick solid nugs, one big bite sends you on a beautiful journey :smile:

I got to thinking about this thread last night. These mushrooms do affect ppl in differnt ways. What I've been saying all along is how findings have been published of many different alkaloids in these mushrooms that are unidentified and they dont know exactly how they react to our bodies with mixed with psilocin/psilocybin.
Take the ecaudor cub for example, I personally dont care for the high of that cub because it makes me very sleepy. I get very very lazy on those. I've seen quite a few others say the same thing. Yet some just absolutly love the ecuadors.
The KS is a great stain, but probably not well suited for substrates such as rice cakes.
The reason I suggest it for beginners is because it is so easy to grow, its fast, and it resists contamination very well.
Just my opinions, your milage may vary.


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Ryche Hawk]
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Ryche,I know you are not a rip-off in the sense where you don't deliver your product,but it is time you come clean about the KS.This is the most over-hyped "strain" ever.You are solely responsible for this hype.There are claims and even blown-up magnifications of your KS photos floating around this community,that show clear evidence of your "doctoring of the KS photos"(tracing, misalignment,shading,etc.).We have seen picture after picture of members results with this strain on every type of substrate,yet we have NEVER seen anything even closely resembling YOUR doctored photos.Your marketing practices are insidious.You are always speakin about karma out of one side of your mouth,while the other side is so quick to insult,rip into,and slander any vendor that may have as large a marketing budget as yourself.Ryche give us all a break with this karma stuff.On behalf of everybody who has seen your fake photos,and heard your insipid rhetoric,we say to you Ryche Hawk:GET REAL OR GET LOST.

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: ]
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Cat

They sure bitched like hell when they suspected McMan of that crap. Let's see what they do with Ryche.

Leaf

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #491070 -

It is very potent when dung based yes! But it is still very speedy and not that visual although the visuals are better with dung along with the potentcy it is still very speedy and not all that visual when compared to equador or mazatapec!
now those are visual strains you have.The ks really isn't though it is still a good strain just not all that it's talked up to be...
Just my thoughts on em.

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: ]
    #491226 -

>There are claims and even blown-up magnifications of your
>KS photos floating around this community,that show clear
>evidence of your "doctoring of the KS photos"(tracing,
>misalignment,shading,etc.).

Interesting. Can you point me to these doctored photos?


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: ]
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>They sure bitched like hell when they suspected McMan of that crap.

Ha, who said "they" SUSPECTED McMan doctoring photos?
McMan has been PROVEN to have done it!


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Anno]
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well you cant really complain people have been doing it for years not just with this but everything
its advertisment
have you ever went to a fast food place and got someting like it looked on tv?


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Anno]
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There are claims and even blown-up magnifications of your
>KS photos floating around this community,that show clear
>evidence of your "doctoring of the KS photos"(tracing,
>misalignment,shading,etc.).

Interesting. Can you point me to these doctored photos?



I am with Anno on this one.....you are making a serious allegation about a *very* long-time, very respected member of this community (who, I might add, has done at least as much as anyone to keep alive the website on whose BB you are now posting your flames on) - now you say to him, GET REAL OR GET LOST?!?

Show us these doctored photos.....otherwise crawl back under the rock with McMan.



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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: ]
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I have seen PF TEK jars of K.S. strain that had no problem with extremely fast colinization. However I have not seen the fruits from them yet.


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: cantara]
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I got pointed to the "doctored" photos, see for yourself:

http://www.gimptroll.com/~hydrapod/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?s=3c1aacd56874ffff;act=ST;f=26;t=8;st=20


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Anno]
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Ive had a look at those photos - what am i looking for? They look fine to me (i cant see any signs of tampering but i dont know how you can tell)


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Zen Peddler]
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Man I'm glad that you said that! Every time that I have seen pics posted that were suposed to be tampered with all that I ever see is a mess of red circles/arrows and blured 'shrooms that all together just dont make the case(no pun) for me.

Honestly, I think that there must be something to the tampering......

my vision just sucks, thats all.


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Anno]
    #491607 -

Anno

What do you think about those Ryche photos now?

Leaf

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Anno]
    #491639 -

Well fuck...

It looks like ole McMan has proxied us non Hydrapod owners from going to that part of his site.

(ya got to admit.. he has the right, it just sucks!)


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: ]
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>What do you think about those Ryche photos now?

Well, it?s prety obvious that they aren?t changed in any way.


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Anno]
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Can you please clarify just a little? Thanks.

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: ]
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The photo McMan aleges a fake:



There is are a bunch of photos from the same tray from a different angle at Hawks page, and you can see that there is nothing mystical about the photos:

http://www.thehawkseye.com/thailand/thaiks2_2.jpg
http://www.thehawkseye.com/thailand/thaiks2_3.jpg

And even more of the same kind:

http://www.thehawkseye.com/thailand/thai.html

On the other hand, if you want to see some real faked images, by out very own McMan, please visit this thread:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/favlinker.php?Cat=&Entry=1673&F_Board=Vendor&Thread=405017&partnumber=1&postmarker=


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Anno]
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Nothing "mystical" about the photos.Hmm, that doesn't tell me much,but I appreciate the reply.Thanks again.

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Anno]
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Hey Anno,first of all I bow to your superior intellect,but I rechecked the pics and nowhere in the thread does Mycotek refer to the pictures as "mystical".Are you staking your reputation and saying 100% conclusively,that the photos in question have never been "doctored"? Thanks again for the reply.

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: ]
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>Hey Anno,first of all I bow to your superior intellect
Please, be sarcastic on someone else.

>but I rechecked the pics and nowhere in the thread does
>Mycotek refer to the pictures as "mystical".

No, he doesn?t. I never claimed he did.
He does say though that the pictures are doctored.

>Are you staking your reputation and saying 100%
>conclusively,that the photos in question have never
>been "doctored"?
How could I this say 100%?
I can only judge what I see. I heven?t shot these photos.
Everybody with a clear eyesight can see for himself and make his own judgment.
For me they look genuine.


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Anno]
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So my eyes arent fucked?? :-)


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Zen Peddler]
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I hate to say it but I too stared at those a number of times. I could not see what he was talking about. I looked at them again and again. I just can't see it. Glad to hear it is not me.

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: MicronMagick]
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Edited by Mycotek (06/17/02 09:19 AM)

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: MicronMagick]
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that photo's been doctored! you have to be blind not to see it!

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Anonymous]
    #491983 -

>...I moved them together so they would make a better photo.
>But I DID NOT MANIPULATE THE PHOTOS - I
>manipulated the trays for a better photo...

That reminds me of "I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT WOMAN, MISS LEWINSKY.......

McMan, you?re lying so badly that it stinks.

Read about how McMan doctored the photos underneath here:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Vendor&Number=405017&page=&view=&sb=&o=&fpart=2&vc=1



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Edited by Anno (12/15/01 11:57 AM)

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: MicronMagick]
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>If this isn't doctored why is it only one of the 2 large
>mushrooms in the upper right hand corner leaves a
>shadow? After all the little ones behind it leave a shadow.

That?s not a shadow, it?s a spore deposit.
If you?d actualy grown shrooms, you?d know that mushrooms release spores upon maturing.


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Anno]
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Edited by Mycotek (06/17/02 09:21 AM)

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Anonymous]
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I?s nice that you can draw red and yellow darts, but what do the darts point at? At shrooms. At shrooms that grow in the casing. Nad this is a proof for what?
If you would have looked at the other pictures of the casing taken from different angles you?d see that your darts point on existing (I have to admit, ugly looking) mushrooms.

But because you?re so good at drawing darts, you could perhaps give us not so skilled Photoshop users a lesson, how you doctored the photos for your (oh, excuse me, Ralph?s) site 3 months back.

Step by step, please, take your time.


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Edited by MicronMagick (12/15/01 12:54 PM)

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: MicronMagick]
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>You totally ignore the depth of field issue and it was posted
>before MycoTek arrows.
Off course, because there is no point in replying to a complete bullshit exppanation.

>Your just pissed that Ralph made it as a vendor and you
>didn't!
Hehe, sure, if you can sleep better beliving this, go on.

>I don't buy your reasoning "too much work"
Well, then don?t, that?s your problem.

> lol then why did you just buy a domain name a few weeks >before closing your doors? Did you business jump 100 fold
>because you got a domain name? lol
No, but it jumped 300%, too much to handle under the premises I ran the business ( " I will continue to sell prints for 3$ as long I?m able to pursue this as a hobby...")

NuShroom, grow up, don?t let McMan be your father....


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Anno]
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Anno,I would have to agree with the others,you appear to be suffering from tunnel vision.

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: MicronMagick]
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>So depth of field is "complete bullshit". Well I used your
>favorite little tool to prove people wrong, Google, right back
>at you.
I never claimed the term is a complete bullsit, but it?s use in this case to proove that the photo is doctored is a complete bullshit.

>Are you still claiming the shadow on the tub is dropped spores?
No, I wasn?t refering to this shadow. These are abviously not spores.
So, what?s the point of this shadow, why is it so suspicious for you?

>I'm think I'm older then McMan
If you?re really in your forties, then I feel sorry for you...


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: MicronMagick]
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It?s very obvious that the picture wasn?t taken with a flash. Therefore there aren?t sharp shadows caused by the shrooms at all.

This light shadow that you marked green seems to be from either the edge of the plastic bin, as the light comes from the sides, or from both big mushrooms.

But really, it doesn?t matter, you will stick to your version, but I don?t care.



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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Anno]
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As for the shadow Anno is correct if the photogrpaher did not use the flash.

If no flash were used then it is completely plausible that the shadow is cast from a light source within the room at an angle which would in effect "hide" the shadow of that large shroom to the right behind those shrooms to its left.

It can be clearly noticed that the shadows of the large shrooms falls slightly left of their bodies. This would indicate that the light source is not from the camera itself, but from somewhere in the room the photo was taken itself.

I don't agree with either of you, i'm neutral, but Anno's claim can be supported. MM's claim can be supported if the camera did use a flash, then the shadow should be visible.

Oh yeah, can we say clash of the titans's?????

Wooooo zahhhhhhhh!


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: MicronMagick]
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So you don?t see the shadow through the middle of the bin?


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: MicronMagick]
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NuShroom - Did you just get finished watching the expose on the "fake" moon landing photos?
I don't care if a vendor posts a picture of a shroom growing of a dogs ass with the caption "Grows well on all kinds of shit". If the vendor has good product and service, I would still order from them.


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: MicronMagick]
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Maybe there are more than one light sources? Have a look at them image guys - I dont think anyone here could doctor a photo that looks so real.


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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: Zen Peddler]
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Rather than worrying about the lighting, valid but inconclusive in this case, one needs to zoom and examine the physics and linear structure of the images.

Leaf

Edited by leafblowerz (12/15/01 09:33 PM)

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: ]
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that picture is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo awesome oh my god those are huge Cubensis beutiful

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Re: Thai Koia Samui [Re: ]
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You people are pathetic, thinking those pictures are doctored. Ryche doesn't have to doctor his photos, his kits speak for themselves. Bye bye McMan, Nushroom, and boxtop.


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