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Re: Recommend some books [Re: Cherk]
#4963669 - 11/21/05 11:30 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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It teaches you to be strategic and think ahead. The Tao Te Ching has no practical purpose.
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Re: Recommend some books [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4963716 - 11/21/05 11:38 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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HELLA_TIGHT said: It teaches you to be strategic and think ahead.
If you're in war, which most of us are not. Unless there are some deep underlying metaphors that relate war to all life that I'm missing.
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HELLA_TIGHT said: The Tao Te Ching has no practical purpose.
Except how to live life as a sage
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Re: Recommend some books [Re: Cherk]
#4963719 - 11/21/05 11:39 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Smoker For Peace said: Unless there are some deep underlying metaphors that relate war to all life that I'm missing.
Obviously.
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Re: Recommend some books [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4963726 - 11/21/05 11:41 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Would you be so kind as to point some out for me? I really want to know
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Re: Recommend some books [Re: Cherk]
#4963730 - 11/21/05 11:42 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's verses on the nature and duality on life.
The Art of War has been used by Politicians/business men/and of course Generals for thousands of years.
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Re: Recommend some books [Re: Cherk]
#4963731 - 11/21/05 11:43 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hold on, I'll get you some stuff.
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Re: Recommend some books [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4963737 - 11/21/05 11:44 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Some have suggested or implied that The Art of War is applicable to more than just military endeavors. Much of the text is about how to fight wars without actually having to do battle. It gives tips for how to outsmart one's opponent so that physical battle is not necessary. In more recent times it has been used as a training guide to prepare one for "office politics" and corporate culture, and the books have most prominently appeared in the business sections of bookstores in the West. Some sports such as rugby have even reputedly used the book to develop strategy.
Many Japanese companies make this book required reading for their key executives. In recent times the book has gained widespread popularity among Western business management, who are turning to this book for inspiration and advice on how to succeed in competitive business situations. It has also crept its way into sport, with Australian cricket coach John Buchanan handing out excerpts from the book to his players before a match against England in 2001, along with the book allegedly being a favorite of University of South Carolina football head coach Steve Spurrier. At the same time this use has been criticized by many scholars of Chinese history for using The Art of War as a source of fortune cookie-like proverbs and not seeing the general coherence of the text.
Republican election strategist Lee Atwater often used The Art of War. [1]
Some have also interpreted The Art of War as providing methods for developing social strategies, such as developing relationships in social or working circles. It stresses subtlety and always making it appear like one is trying to achieve something away from the actual intention.
The text of The Art of War is also very useful in war games ranging from board games like Go, Risk to computer games like StarCraft and Natural Selection.
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Re: Recommend some books [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4963753 - 11/21/05 11:47 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thank you!
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Re: Recommend some books [Re: Cherk]
#4963763 - 11/21/05 11:49 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Recommend some books [Re: Phluck]
#4963764 - 11/21/05 11:50 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Phluck said: Frankly, I think a lot of new age spiritual writing is absolute self aggrandizing crap. It's essentially over the top fiction, which the author believes in and insists is filled with mystical important truth. Like, Be Here Now, for example, was filled with a bunch of rambling nonsense that sounded like someone who was so high that practically anything sounds deep. He'll ramble on about really simple concepts and put them into grandiose language and obtuse metaphors. It really seems like the whole book is crying out "LOOK HOW ENLIGHTENED AND SMART I AM! I'VE GOT IT ALL FIGURED OUT! I'M MORALLY AND INTELLECTUALLY SUPERIOR TO ALL OF WESTERN SOCIETY!"
Maybe you just don't get it. I'm sure he doesn't actually say those things, so maybe the fact that you infer it from the text is a reflection of your own cynical attitude towards the material. Of course, I haven't read it yet, so maybe I'm wrong here. But Markos, who seems to be too intelligent to fall for something as dumb and naive you describe the book to be, seems to be a big fan of "Be Here Now." Maybe he sees something in it that you don't. Just some food for thought.
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Re: Recommend some books [Re: Silversoul]
#4963772 - 11/21/05 11:52 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Or maybe he was on so much LSD he started to think of himself as a new-age Jesus.
/cough Leary /cough
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Re: Recommend some books [Re: Silversoul]
#4963781 - 11/21/05 11:53 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've found Be Here Now to be absolutely priceless in my journey. Check it out paradigm, you won't be let down.
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Re: Recommend some books [Re: Cherk]
#4963790 - 11/21/05 11:56 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Has no one here even heard of Alan Watts?
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Re: Recommend some books [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4963805 - 11/21/05 12:01 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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"The Fountainhead" by Ayne Rand.
"The Physics of Consciousness" by Evan Harris Walker
"The Secret Life of Salvador Dali" by Salvador Dali (best autobiography EVER!)
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Re: Recommend some books [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4963809 - 11/21/05 12:01 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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That would be pretty sad considering this is the Shroomery.
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Re: Recommend some books [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4963811 - 11/21/05 12:02 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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HELLA_TIGHT said: Has no one here even heard of Alan Watts?
you mean the alcoholic pedophilic beatnik? Yeah, I've heard of him, but never read any of his work...
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Re: Recommend some books [Re: dr0mni]
#4963814 - 11/21/05 12:03 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Where did you hear that?
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Re: Recommend some books [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4963823 - 11/21/05 12:05 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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-------------------- "It seemed to me culture is a shabby lie. Or at least this culture is a shabby lie. If you work like a dog, you get 260 channels of bad television and a German automobile. What kind of perfection is that?"-McKenna
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Re: Recommend some books [Re: dr0mni]
#4963824 - 11/21/05 12:06 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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You're talking about Ginsberg.
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Re: Recommend some books [Re: Cherk]
#4963826 - 11/21/05 12:07 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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lolzz
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