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ralphster44
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p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva
#483213 - 12/07/01 03:12 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: ralphster44]
#483229 - 12/07/01 03:24 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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ooo....I only wish I had a little more practice with agar. Could be fun. :(
I have read about the hoogs ,but must admit, I need to research some more strains..never heard of p.semperviva?
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: ralphster44]
#483240 - 12/07/01 03:33 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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id love to attempt this. i have quite a bit of experience with agar and i think i could fruit it.
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: ralphster44]
#483326 - 12/07/01 05:07 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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I too would love to get one of these prints........I will PM you..
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: ralphster44]
#483655 - 12/07/01 10:51 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its not new and unfortunately it doesn't have the pointed caps like that pictured in Stamets. Psilocybe semperviva is conspecific to Psilocybe hoogshagenii var. convexa, the variety that lacks the cute little nipple. BIO and Electrolurch have grown it out previously. Electrolurch has had the best success using straw as a substrate. An example of his impressive work is reposted below with straw substrate on the left and rye grain on the right.
His success has prompted me to break into my library and give it a try on grass seed. I am only at the pinning stage, but it looks pretty good so far.
Keep looking for those new ones ralphster ;)
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ralphster44
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: Workman]
#483691 - 12/07/01 11:52 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: ralphster44]
#483720 - 12/08/01 01:07 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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In reply to:
I have acquired a new mushroom strain new to the OMC.
Guess not.
In reply to:
Excellent mushroom.
Have you ever grown these from the spores you have? Have you ever eaten them? If not how the fuck would you know? Excellent mushshroom, excellent mushshroom, everything you come out with is excellent mushroom.
These are wild prints. How do you know what to expect from these spores?
At least you're not trying to sell them as domesticated.
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: JackMehoff]
#483728 - 12/08/01 01:13 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's not even a 'strain', its a specie different from cubensis.
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: ralphster44]
#483796 - 12/08/01 04:29 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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those pins look awesome workman....
mmm...i didn't understood if the prints you have are ps. semperviva from electrolurch or are wild prints from mexico....
ralph...pm me with details, perhaps the prints you have are hoogshageeni (with nipples) wich are commonly sold as "pajaritos" in the town of Huautla de Jimenez, in the sierra mazateca....
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: ralphster44]
#483858 - 12/08/01 08:07 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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All i can say is - ralph that picture in your post rocks!!!
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: ralphster44]
#483879 - 12/08/01 09:04 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sweet... might have to get ahold of some spores for this species in the future.
Workman, are those oats in the pic of your pins?
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: ralphster44]
#483963 - 12/08/01 10:48 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi,
probably it's time I clear the things a little bit out. Actually the prints
Ralphster got are from me, and are from specimens that are shown in the photo Workman was kind to post. I'm interested in this precious species widely cultivation, and am sure it could be an easy start for those looking
further than the cultivation of Psi. cubensis strains. After I repetetively
tried to talk with Bio, from whom I got the culture, about spreading this
species, without any kind of answer, I decided to donate 5 very dark sporeprints to the FSR. So that's the story ;)
I still have about 10 very dark sporeprints, some of which even have a diameter of about 5 cm (2 inches). I don't want to sell them by myself (I dislike giving the addy to get the money), and I don't want to give them away for nothing, because every single letter costs me about 1.5 EUR for non european addresses, and 50 cents for europe. So maybe some vendor has an idea...
BTW the trays of the above photo are still fruting, not as vigoursly and the
fruitbodies are smaller. They are still contamination free. Actually that trays
are fruiting since mid agoust! So much to semperviva, "the always living" ;) The fruitbodies have now a small nipple, about 1 - 2 mm big.
These mushrooms are delicious, and believe me they are stronger than Psi.
cubensis. The trip is so mexican, it was like being home for me :)
I hope this brings some light,
Elektrolurch
Workman:
those pins look very well. Keep humidity very high...
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: ralphster44]
#484020 - 12/08/01 11:57 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here are some pics from the last Psi. semperviva fruitbodies, toghether with some Pan trop, I was talking about in the last post from me...
Elektrolurch
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ralphster44
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: Elektrolurch]
#484105 - 12/08/01 01:42 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: ralphster44]
#484729 - 12/09/01 01:33 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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What type of substrate do you need with this/these species?
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: DarK_SavioR]
#484823 - 12/09/01 06:07 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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To my understanding you would want to fruit them on straw. On rye grain they dont do as well. I know on grass seed they also perform OK. I think compost is also an option.
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: trade omlet]
#484861 - 12/09/01 07:54 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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Elektrolurch what is that plant you have in there And god that first pic is so Perfect :)
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Elektrolurch
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
#485685 - 12/10/01 02:13 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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The plants are three Salvia divinorum cuttings, that I'm rooting in there ;)
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: ralphster44]
#487986 - 12/11/01 09:34 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am very interested. I was just getting ready to start some other mexican species soon so this is great timing.
Club99 was kind enough to send some ps. caerulescens and ps. aztecorum's and ps. mexicana a while back so I was going to give them a try soon. I"ll just make it big Mexican fiesta :)
Do you Ralphster, Workman or Elektrolurch want a part of these prints?
Workman, I also got that ps. quebecensis print back finally.
Do you still want part of this print to give it a try?
Great job Elektrolurch, those look beatiful.
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: Ryche Hawk]
#520425 - 01/14/02 12:04 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey has anyone grown the quebecensis with any success? Just thought I would ask, because I read that someone had a print in this thread...and it is supposed to grow natively in my area. Just curious. Cheers
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: SThomas]
#520791 - 01/14/02 06:44 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have a print of the ps. Quebecensis. I've been meaning to send 1/2 of it to Workman but I dont have his old po box addy anymore. I dont live in the right climate to make this one happen so I"ll pass it on...i'm sure Workman can work some magic with it. I better PM workman and get his addy.
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: Ryche Hawk]
#521154 - 01/15/02 12:13 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Where did you get the print? That is crazy that someone actually has one, I ahev only seen two bad pics of this. I would really love to try and grow it...would need some agar work...but man cool. Hopefully I can find some this year, I live right on the border of quebec...where it was discovered.
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: SThomas]
#521615 - 01/15/02 07:45 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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I got it from a guy in Quebec Canada who has been picking them for several years. He attempted to cultivate them but was unsuccessful at it. The letter was from Canada and the guy sounded like he knew what he was talking about.. he even sent a few pics along but I have since lost them. He also said he had been eating them (and tripping) for several years so they are definatly psilocybe species. He said they were not prevelant in his area but could always count on finding some each year growing on old log stumps by a creek. I've since lost the emails and have no contact with him unfortunatly.
He asked for nothing in return just wanted to help spread the species...so I am pretty sure its the real deal
I'm sending the print I have to Workman to let him work his magic with it If anyone can do it I'm sure Workman can.
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: Ryche Hawk]
#521673 - 01/15/02 08:42 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sounds excellent, I wish that you had not lost contact with him...would love to see whati could do with a print. But if anyone in my area could find them it will be me...evry persistant...hiked about 200km this fall, and turned up some interesting finds. By the way what did they look like? Anything like the unidentified psilo I found this year? Here is the link. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum3&Number=504299&Forum=Forum3&Words=caerulipes&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=492247
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Re: p. hoogshagenii or p.semperviva [Re: SThomas]
#523624 - 01/17/02 03:46 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh you guys are going to love this one. The same day, the 15th I was writing that above about this quebecensis strain, and losing contact with the guy who mailed it to me.....and talking to Workman in PM's about giving him my only print.......I received an email from Jaque, the finder of the quebecensis. I had not checked those emails until today.
So there it was, an email from him telling me he found more quebecensis and mailed me 2 more prints last friday.
The energy of these psilocybe mushrooms always seems to amaze me in new ways. Here I was thinking about that strain, and getting that print to Workman...and this guy Jaque puts 2 in the mail for me...then contacts me a few days later to see if I had got them yet. The same day I'm posting I lost his email addy.
I'm still waiting to hear back from him weather he read this thread...but I kind of doubt it.. he did not mention it.
I think this mushrooms energy is just reaching out to be rediscovered and brought back to the masses
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