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PookztA
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URGENT question about Patching & Placing in FC? quick & simple question!
#4826096 - 10/19/05 04:57 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have a few mini casings, theyre little gladware containers like 4-5 inches deep, and have a square dimension of like 7x3inches id say.. so deep little rectangles... anyways i cased them about 3.5 days ago, and ive read up TONS about pinning strategies, diff casing methods... so heres my question.
Each of my little casings are at the same stage. Been cased for 3-4 days now, and the FIRST BIT of myc has poked up. Tricky thing is, it is a VERY insignificant amount of myc, more will surely come, but as for now the only visible myc has popped up around the edges of each casing tray. I would say there is 1 or 2 dime-sized spots of myc at different areas around the edge, of each of my 5 casings. I have heard this may be do to more moisture around edges, so when checking on them today (day 4 since casing), i misted pretty densely (fine mist though) aiming at the center of the casing. do u think i should give it another day? or should i follow the rule of "as SOON as you see myc pop up, patch, and place in FC..." cuz at this point, id only be patching a little spot or 2 on the VERY edge of the casing... if a tiny bit of overlay develops due to waiting, it would only be slight, and would be specifically around the edges im guessing, as my weather conditions have been optimal. thanks for your help
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Re: URGENT question about Patching & Placing in FC? quick & simple question! [Re: PookztA]
#4826150 - 10/19/05 05:10 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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from what i've read I would say patch and wait for it to come evenly. So that way you get an even pin set. I am just saying this from what i've read because i have no experience in casings. I am actually on my first grow, but I read a lot.
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Re: URGENT question about Patching & Placing in FC? quick & simple question! [Re: PookztA]
#4826154 - 10/19/05 05:11 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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i would lightly patch, and incubate for another day or 2
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PookztA
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Re: URGENT question about Patching & Placing in FC? quick & simple question! [Re: tristan1018]
#4826179 - 10/19/05 05:14 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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well ya leave in the incubator for another day or two, but why patch whats currently showing? i dont expose to light anymore than for misting / checking purposes once a day, and the temp is pretty high, like 82 in the incubator, so why not just let it all come in a tiny bit, then patch and go to FC? i figure that if im going to patch, i should patch it while keeping it as even as possible.. so why not just leave in there for another day than patch whatever is showing, go to FC?
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Re: URGENT question about Patching & Placing in FC? quick & simple question! [Re: PookztA]
#4826215 - 10/19/05 05:24 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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if some myc is coming through and others not its obviously not even, so you lightly patch the part coming through so when that breaks through the new patch, the other myc should be breaking through the original casing, that make sense?
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PookztA
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Re: URGENT question about Patching & Placing in FC? quick & simple question! [Re: tristan1018]
#4826275 - 10/19/05 05:39 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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ya i suppose, i just figured as the middle came in id patch the sides and mid, since patching now around the edges might not prevent me from having to still patch the edges AND middle, possibly providing an uneven patch job, with elevated casing edges. imma give it some hours, and check it towards midnight or so, and if nothing has popped towards hte middle, ill patch the edges since i have one more little tray that was lagging, that just fully colonized and needs to be cased. thx for help
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Re: URGENT question about Patching & Placing in FC? quick & simple question! [Re: PookztA]
#4826473 - 10/19/05 06:27 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Also mist that casing well and read my pinning strategy, this is why it was created, for you guys!
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Re: URGENT question about Patching & Placing in FC? quick & simple question! [Re: hyphae]
#4826633 - 10/19/05 07:11 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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yea def read hyphae's pinning strategy, but one quick note, you dont neccessarily want an even casing layer, you want an even myc layer. so although some of the casing is uneven, you want all the myc to be at the same depth below the casing, thats all.
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PookztA
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Re: URGENT question about Patching & Placing in FC? quick & simple question! [Re: hyphae]
#4826745 - 10/19/05 07:50 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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hyphae said: Also mist that casing well and read my pinning strategy, this is why it was created, for you guys!
haha i have that pinnin strategy post memorized dude, that is why i bolded my main question of "should i patch and place in fc AS SOON AS I SEE ANY MYC?" cuz your pinning strat says AS SOON AS U SEE A BIT OF MYC, patch, place in FC... but i think imma check on it later tonight, patch the sides no matter what, but if i see some more since i moistured the casing, then ill patch all myc spots and place in FC. thx for help, i think im just going to have to use good judgement from this point on...
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Re: URGENT question about Patching & Placing in FC? quick & simple question! [Re: tristan1018]
#4826749 - 10/19/05 07:52 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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tristan1018 said: yea def read hyphae's pinning strategy, but one quick note, you dont neccessarily want an even casing layer, you want an even myc layer. so although some of the casing is uneven, you want all the myc to be at the same depth below the casing, thats all.
That is the jist of it alright! But starting out level and even makes less work in the long run. 5 shrooms for your wise insight bro!
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Re: URGENT question about Patching & Placing in FC? quick & simple question! [Re: hyphae]
#4827073 - 10/19/05 09:08 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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^^^ of course, i forgot to say that. Yea, most of the time you'll get an even myc layer if the casing is even to begin with. And PLEASE hyphae, YOU are the one i learned that from reading your strategy and posts!!
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Re: URGENT question about Patching & Placing in FC? quick & simple question! [Re: tristan1018]
#4827192 - 10/19/05 09:29 PM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Level substrate and evenly thick casing doesn't mean you'll get even colonization by no means but it sure does help. Still glad you picked up on that
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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PookztA
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Re: URGENT question about Patching & Placing in FC? quick & simple question! [Re: hyphae]
#4827938 - 10/20/05 12:51 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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whats the longest uve ever held a casing inside the incubator before feeling ready to place in FC? (i.e. waiting for perfectly even myc colonization of casing, etc.)
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Re: URGENT question about Patching & Placing in FC? quick & simple question! [Re: PookztA]
#4828013 - 10/20/05 01:09 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: URGENT question about Patching & Placing in FC? quick & simple question! [Re: hyphae]
#4828041 - 10/20/05 01:14 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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hyphae said: Level substrate and evenly thick casing doesn't mean you'll get even colonization by no means but it sure does help. Still glad you picked up on that
Yup. But it's the only way to start Doesn't mean shit though,lol, around the corner. But you gotta start somewhere. Might as well start the best way.
Great hobby. You do everything right, and you never know whats gonna happen next, this time,lol. Will you get that great pin set ? How many will abort ? How BIG will they get ? Is this a new personal best ? Will this make it to the Shroomery,lol. You just don't know. Like 2 x 2 doesn't always equal 4 around here. And not just while you're eating em , lol. Almost like leaving reality.
Oh well. I'm alittle buzzed right now,lol.
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Re: URGENT question about Patching & Placing in FC? quick & simple question! [Re: PookztA]
#4828528 - 10/20/05 06:06 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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PookztA said: whats the longest uve ever held a casing inside the incubator before feeling ready to place in FC? (i.e. waiting for perfectly even myc colonization of casing, etc.)
3 maybe 4 days.
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PookztA
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Re: URGENT question about Patching & Placing in FC? quick & simple question! [Re: hyphae]
#4828974 - 10/20/05 10:10 AM (18 years, 3 months ago) |
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damn, even when you were a nub? my poo/spawn mix, now fully colonized, was just over 4 inches, id say 4-5 inches, so i applied a casing layer of about 1 inch, maybe just under... and i patted it down, lightly, but nonetheless it was patted and misted, so maybe its just taking a little longer for the myc to channel through all that perty casing... 1" is not too much id say, since there was 4-5 inches of substrate/spawn in there, so i believe this may produce some deecent flushes if i can get the right pinset! thanks guys, and hyphae, seriously, id be lost without that pinning tek, specially with the added pictures of "near saturation" level of casing moisture. pictures are great!
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