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CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics)
    #4824331 - 10/19/05 10:06 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

This is my first grow with 6 cakes in the FC and 2 showing signs of growth. IS there a way to stop aborts? Do I cause aborts or are they something that is out of my control? Has anyone had what looks to be mushroom growth w/o a mushroom cap?


This first picture is cake A with lots of new pin in the center of the cake and blobs of something at the bottom but with no mushroom cap. The blobs are about two days old and are a little bigger but not much. The other picture is cake B and the longest pin is an inch long and is also two days old. I have then in a FC with wet perlite and on inch of dry on top and a cool mist going 24/7. Any help?


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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: WhiteBunny]
    #4824349 - 10/19/05 10:11 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Aborts in my experience are caused by too much moisture on the caps for a prolonged period of time. other than this i have had very few aborts. most of the time they can be prevented but other times they are just natures course.

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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: thenewguy05]
    #4824654 - 10/19/05 11:30 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

should i only run the coolmist for a couple hours a day then?


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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: WhiteBunny]
    #4824668 - 10/19/05 11:33 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

i wouldn't even use it since you have perlite in there.

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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: thenewguy05]
    #4824673 - 10/19/05 11:35 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

i did it for air exchange, andaed RH


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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: WhiteBunny]
    #4824682 - 10/19/05 11:36 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

there really isn't much condensation on the wall of the FC... I will post a pic of set soon

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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: thenewguy05]
    #4824702 - 10/19/05 11:41 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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Aborts in my experience are caused by too much moisture on the caps for a prolonged period of time. other than this i have had very few aborts. most of the time they can be prevented but other times they are just natures course.





And as I've said before, I find them to be caused by drunken one night stands,lol. Envying the penis a little too much,LMAO.

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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: HippieChick]
    #4824787 - 10/19/05 12:04 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Lmao
Condems help prevent aborts.


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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: Jabberw0cky]
    #4824928 - 10/19/05 12:46 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

so are you guess saying there is pretty much nothing that can be done?


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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: WhiteBunny]
    #4824950 - 10/19/05 12:53 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

no... I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying they can be prevented in most cases. Treasure Coast has more aborts than any other strain I've come across besides PF strain and that is in the genes of the strain. environmental factors take their toll also, such as too much moisture on the caps during fruiting. maybe you have too much humidity in your chamber and the excess is dripping from the lid to your fruits. it all depends upon your specific situation, what you did to the fruits. i noticed you didn't enter any current growth parameters, i would like to know what they are

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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: thenewguy05]
    #4824995 - 10/19/05 01:04 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

what do you mean growth paramaters?
what is the longest it took pin to mature?


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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: WhiteBunny]
    #4825054 - 10/19/05 01:17 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

1)GROWTH PARAMETERS as in relative humidity, tempurature, and air exchange.
2)around 6-9 weeks

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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: thenewguy05]
    #4825075 - 10/19/05 01:22 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I don't have a hydrometer but there is some condensation on the side on the FC. The temp is about 73 degrees and I fan about 5 times a day plus before I turned off the cool mist I had that going all the time


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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: WhiteBunny]
    #4825652 - 10/19/05 03:26 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Whitey ... i think you mean barometer... hydrometers are used to measure sugar and alcohol content when making beer/alc.

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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: Fnglfan]
    #4825870 - 10/19/05 04:09 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

i thought a barometer messures pressure?
hydro is a think greek or latin for water which would hopefully equal measure water in the air right?


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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: Fnglfan]
    #4826002 - 10/19/05 04:32 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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Whitey ... i think you mean barometer... hydrometers are used to measure sugar and alcohol content when making beer/alc.




hydrometers do just that, Hygrometers measure the relative humidity, barometers measure atmospheric pressure

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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: WhiteBunny]
    #4826016 - 10/19/05 04:35 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

no it is a hygrometer, a hydrometer measures liquid density.
hygrometers measure humidity.

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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: backupwards]
    #4826037 - 10/19/05 04:41 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

whats a sphygmomanometer do?

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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4826063 - 10/19/05 04:48 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

blood pressure meter


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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: WhiteBunny]
    #4826121 - 10/19/05 05:02 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

damned know it all!  :smirk:

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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4826209 - 10/19/05 05:22 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

google is a wonderful thing


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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: WhiteBunny]
    #4827021 - 10/19/05 08:58 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

and whatever you do, if you cultivate penis envy, beware of smegma

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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: WormholeSurfer]
    #4827041 - 10/19/05 09:01 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

lol thanks WormholeSurfer I was like "oh maybe soeone has a tip for many to have all my pin develope" smegma is only from covered wagons right?


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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: WhiteBunny]
    #4827791 - 10/20/05 12:00 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

hahahaha.....smegma......LOL


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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: WhiteBunny]
    #4828257 - 10/20/05 02:28 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

( not work safe! )

Wikipedia entry for "smegma"


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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: Konnrade]
    #4828739 - 10/20/05 08:36 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Ok I woke up and count a tiny bit over 50 pins but it looks like one is trying to tare it's vail with only abut an inch of growth. What can I do? Does this happen often?


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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: WhiteBunny]
    #4829304 - 10/20/05 12:17 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

well that one's vail torn. I was an inch loalong and 1/8 of an inc wide. Bad strain?


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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: WhiteBunny]
    #4829347 - 10/20/05 12:30 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Next time, dunk your cakes before fruiting, get rid of the cool mist, get a hygrometer to make sure that the humidity is close to 100% in your FC, fan the cakes about once an hour by hand. I'll bet you see a BIG difference. Small shrooms are usually attributed to lack of either nutrients, water, fresh air or a combination of one of the three. As long as you have all three, you will get the most out of your shrooms :thumbup:

I would definitely dunk after this first flush. Good Luck!


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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: WhiteBunny]
    #4829373 - 10/20/05 12:35 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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Ok I woke up and count a tiny bit over 50 pins but it looks like one is trying to tare it's vail with only abut an inch of growth. What can I do?


well the only thing to do in that situation is to pick the fruit. you have to remember that you are growing cakes and mushrooms from a cake will not grow as long or tall as a bulk grow or casing.
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well that one's vail torn. I was an inch loalong and 1/8 of an inc wide. Bad strain?


what strain are you growing??? the only strains i have ever had a real big abort problem was treasure coast and the original pf classic strains.

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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: WhiteBunny]
    #4829461 - 10/20/05 12:50 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think the strain has much to do with it myself.


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Re: CAN YOU STOP ABORTS?(pics) [Re: FooMan]
    #4829739 - 10/20/05 01:38 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

its the lipa yai strain. I did dunk them for 12 hours and rolled half of them (want to see if there is a difference). I am trying to fan the hell out of them


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