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Offlinehightodd
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2oo proof alchol
    #481866 - 12/06/01 11:23 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

does anyone know how to get this stuff in florida or a better way/chemical that is easy to extract with.

ok well let me add something here. I found were they sell 200 proof undenatured alcohol but it's 150$ a gallon now they sell denatured for 30$ a gallon. I'm trying to do the extraction method as explained by the guys at fanaticus can I get buy with denatured and what do i have to watch out for (i am no chemist) Furthemore in the psilocibin producer guide it says to use methanol to extract with the ratio they give is 10 grams of material to 1 liter of methanol well thats alot of methanol. does anyone see where i'm going with this. Also has anyone done an extraction with 190 proof alcohol what wher the results I apreiceate all comments

Edited by hightodd (12/07/01 09:52 AM)

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OfflineDarK_SavioR
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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: hightodd]
    #481896 - 12/06/01 11:54 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

did you try the way that PF Tek explains on there site? If not, 195 proof liquor should work fine also, although not as good. Golden Grain and Everclear are both 195 proof liquor. Not all states sell anything that strong though. Call liquor barn or some other major liquor store and ask them about getting ahold of 200 proof alcohol.


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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: DarK_SavioR]
    #482121 - 12/06/01 03:13 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

YOu cant get 200 proof alcohol, there's always a small amount of water in it, I think the max is 96.5% alcohol.
You can use methanol/ethanol though


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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: razer]
    #482657 - 12/07/01 01:22 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

why not just go to the local pharmacy and buy some iso...


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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: razer]
    #482700 - 12/07/01 02:46 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

That is incorrect Razer. Most chemical warehouses sell 200 proof ethanol. For many water sensitive reactions you have to have anhydrous ethanol.
It is a relatively innocuous compound and I suggest you just order it from a local chemical supply house. If they ask just say that you are trying to extract fragrances from some flowers you have.


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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: Alkaloids]
    #482827 - 12/07/01 08:12 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, the highest one is alcohol absolut and it's about 99.9%, also called chemical grade alcohol. But it will stay 99.9% only if stored correctly. The price difference between 96% and 99.9% is big and only for special reactions you need such a high grade of purity.

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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: Elektrolurch]
    #484015 - 12/08/01 11:49 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

"anhydrous reagent grade ethanol: 99.9999% .. (goes off on a list of potential contaminants, such as one or two ppm of various metals)"


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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: DinoMyc]
    #484321 - 12/08/01 05:54 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

the absolute ethanol that is chemical grade isnt meant for human consumption, its made from organic synthesis rather than distilled from fermented grain. all ethanol for human comsumption comes, by law, from fermented grain.

florida you can only buy 153 proof (i believe) distilled spirits. you can go to georgia tho and get 195 proof everclear, if im not mistaken.
just use denatured alcohol. SLX only. evaporate it off, and then put it under LOW heat for a decent amount of time to make sure all the methanol is gone

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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: coprolalia]
    #484430 - 12/08/01 08:05 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

> then put it under LOW heat for a decent amount of time to make sure all the methanol is gone

Just thaught I'd add my two cents. Methanol has a boiling point of 64.7 degrees celsius, Ethanol has a boiling point of 78.4 degrees celsius. So you need to get it hot, but not too hot. Learned about moonshining from my grandpa back in the day, I remember him saying that if you drink from the first bit of moonshine that came off the still it had "poison" in it and would make you go blind. Its just where the first bit contains methanol. Also remember him saying not to drink any if the still got too hot, 2-propanol has a boiling point of 82.4 degrees celsius, I don't think propanol hurts you any but I"m not sure, I know anything thats in your moonshine from it being too hot is called "tails"... if you ever decide to make moonshine keep the temp right at 80 degrees celsius.... doubt anyone is ever going to shine, but I felt like spitting out some information since we're talking about alcohol, heh.


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Edited by DarK_SavioR (12/08/01 08:13 PM)

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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: DarK_SavioR]
    #484489 - 12/08/01 09:10 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

"Also remember him saying not to drink any if the still got too hot, 2-propanol has a boiling point of 82.4 degrees celsius, I don't think propanol hurts you any but I"m not sure, I know anything thats in your moonshine from it being too hot is called "tails"... "

higher weighted alcohols, like 2-propanol, are not as poisonous as methanol, but give you a hell of a hangover! If you to high n the temp, you will also get ketones and things like that, so the hangover increases with destillation temp ;)

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Re: 200 proof alchol [Re: Elektrolurch]
    #484942 - 12/09/01 10:44 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Ethanol isnt alcohol, well not exactly.

When I said you cant get 200 proof alcohol, I was implying the alcohol that we drink at parties, as for those its like 96.5% max. And with ethanol/methanol, you can get slightly higher, but they do disolve the moisture out of the air.


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Re: 200 proof alchol [Re: razer]
    #484955 - 12/09/01 11:16 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Ethanol is drinking alcohol... methanol is wood alcohol. The purest you can get ethanol from a still is around 97%, you can get it purer but it requires different methods.


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Ralphster44 & The FSR!
All thats stated above is for humor and a lie!!

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Re: 200 proof alchol [Re: DarK_SavioR]
    #484958 - 12/09/01 11:24 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Methanol -
A colorless, toxic, flammable liquid, CH3OH, used as an antifreeze, a general solvent, a fuel, and a denaturant for ethyl alcohol. Also called carbinol, methyl alcohol, wood alcohol, wood spirits.

Ethanol -
See Alcohol

Alcohol -
1. A colorless volatile flammable liquid, C2H5 OH, synthesized or obtained by fermentation of sugars and starches and widely used, either pure or denatured, as a solvent and in drugs, cleaning solutions, explosives, and intoxicating beverages. Also called ethanol, ethyl alcohol, grain alcohol.
2. Intoxicating liquor containing alcohol.
3. Any of a series of hydroxyl compounds, the simplest of which are derived from saturated hydrocarbons, have the general formula CnH2n+1OH, and include ethanol and methanol.

Just in case you still have doubts : ) heh


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Vitamin C chase, kill the taste. You can tell its nasty by the look on my face.
Ralphster44 & The FSR!
All thats stated above is for humor and a lie!!

Edited by DarK_SavioR (12/09/01 11:28 AM)

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Offlinecoprolalia
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Re: 200 proof alchol [Re: DarK_SavioR]
    #485491 - 12/09/01 09:29 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

isopropanol (2-propanol) is metabolized to acetone in the body. not good.
methanol also forms an azeotrope with ethanol, i dont have my merck index handy, but i think the combo boils HIGHER than either of the two separately. refer to a chem manual tho.....

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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: hightodd]
    #486809 - 12/11/01 12:29 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

what about 99% iso at the pharmacy?

also car part dealers often have methanol


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Re: 2oo proof alchol *DELETED* [Re: carbonhoots]
    #488407 - 12/12/01 07:38 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: ar393]
    #489588 - 12/13/01 07:13 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)


peace, ar393

Edited by ar393 (12/13/01 07:14 AM)

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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: ar393]
    #497062 - 12/20/01 03:08 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you..
and to all you non believers, believe your eyes.
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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: DinoMyc]
    #500056 - 12/24/01 11:50 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

I'm willing to bet a billion dollars theres a few droplets of water disolved in that. Thus making it < 200 proof


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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: razer]
    #500135 - 12/24/01 01:44 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Common table salt will absorb any water in your grain alcohol quite easily,it won't dissolve and can then be filtered out.

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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: razer]
    #500622 - 12/25/01 07:18 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

fine, at this point there might be some water in there, but when the bottle was packaged and if it remained un-opened, I am sure the label was true.
peace, ar393

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Invisiblerazer
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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: ar393]
    #501825 - 12/26/01 08:39 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Doubt that, nothing is absolute


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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: razer]
    #502189 - 12/27/01 07:05 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

arg, for the sake of arguement i will absolutely agree with you that nothing is absolute :)
he he he
peace, ar393

i guess my next two posts disagree with my statement above, oh well...damn it

Edited by ar393 (12/27/01 07:10 AM)

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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: ar393]
    #502190 - 12/27/01 07:07 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

also for real world applications, that is absolute, even if there is 1 ppb of h2o in there, that will not have any statistaclly signifigant impact on antyhing done with the reagent compared to the theoretically outcome of the reagent not having that 1 ppb of h2o in it.
peace, ar393

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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: ar393]
    #502192 - 12/27/01 07:08 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

oh one more thing, you are correct in your statement on another level, if you truely have nothing, like past the farthest reachest of space, then you have something that is absolute, because there are no molocules moving (because there are no molucules) so then you have absolute zero.
peace, ar393

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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: ar393]
    #502218 - 12/27/01 07:43 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone else notice,this conversation is ridiculous?

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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: Pinhead]
    #502242 - 12/27/01 08:48 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

me.
but when you are laid off, and you still have to be in work during this week. you have nothing better to do then to sit here and let your mind ramble...
peace, ar393

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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: ar393]
    #503245 - 12/28/01 11:51 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Who's to say there's an end to space?


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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: razer]
    #503267 - 12/28/01 12:20 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

arg.....
space is everexpanding for all we have concluded so far, correct? but since its ever expanding, its got to be expanding into something, even if that something isnt really definable or measureable or really even explainable.
peace, ar393

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Re: 2oo proof alchol [Re: ar393]
    #503980 - 12/29/01 07:52 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

i disagree. we obviously know how big space is because they wouldnt be able to sell space heaters if they didnt. those companies would have lawsuits on their hands. you should just call them and ask them. :)


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Re: 200 proof alcohol [Re: nobbik]
    #504270 - 12/29/01 06:17 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

If it hasnt expanded into it, maybe it doesnt exist yet?


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