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 willmafingerdo
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 do you dunk your poo?? 
#4810912 - 10/16/05 01:08 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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well my first poo flush is comeing to an end and i was wondering if you can dunk a poo casing or if they hold moister good enough that you dont have to.
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Same here.
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Re: do you dunk your poo?? [Re: FungusMan]
#4810985 - 10/16/05 01:26 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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the mushrooms use that water in there. 90% of the weight of those mushrooms is water that was in that poo.
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We know that, kilgore,lol. Thats why we are asking.
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SubGen1us
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Cold shock and dunk will do u good.
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agar
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Assuming the h/poo - is in a tray.
Simply use distilled water, with a bit of hydrogen peroxide in it - to flood the tray. Then - after about 20 minutes, tilt the tray at a very steep angle & allow any excess moisture - the cased substrate failed to absorb - drain off.  
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Re: do you dunk your poo?? [Re: agar]
#4811068 - 10/16/05 01:47 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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doesnt the water on top of your casing destroy the pins that are forming for the next flush? maybe you could fill it with water until it was almost to the top of the casing so it could soak in through the sides.
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Re: do you dunk your poo?? [Re: donkey_lipz]
#4811099 - 10/16/05 01:55 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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ya, i think flooding a casing isnt a good thing... what ive been told about successfully rehydrating a casing (even though they dont really need it since), is to pick EVERY lil mushie when you decide to pick your first flush, unless there are 2 or 3 obviously speedy ones. So say you have a casing tray with like 10 mature mushrooms and 5-10 immature lil guys, pick them ALL, so that u can water this casing. Once all picked, reapply a thin layer of casing to make sure that contams do not get into the areas where u just twisted the mushies off, then bring the casing surface back to the "nearly saturated" level with a very fine mist. should be fine  been told that "dunking / cold shocking" casings is worthless, as they are strategies to produce better flushes from cakes.
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Re: do you dunk your poo?? [Re: PookztA]
#4811170 - 10/16/05 02:10 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Uve been told its worthless.
I on the other hand have experienced the difference between the 2 and can say i speak
with experience.
dunking is just fully rehydrating the whole casing, nothing more nothing less.
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I usually take the casing out of it's tray, dunk it in warm water overnight (about 80 degrees or so). This gives me an opportunity to clean the tray again and get any mycelia piss out of it and make sure it's nice and sanitary for the mycelial mass again. I usually pull the casing out and sprinkle some dry vermiculite on it, then mist it well when it's in the terrarium again.
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You can also simply weigh the tray, when it is fully colonized - but in the pre-pinning stage. That gives you a starting weight figure.
After a harvest, weigh the crop. Then - weigh the tray.
Those figures will tell you the approximate amount of water weight lost.
Simply replace that weight loss - with an equal amount of water weight.
This is around the 7th or 8th flush from a tray - done that way, when I was testing my Myco~Nitro substrate.
You can also simply purchase a KELWAY PH & MOISTURE METER.
http://store.yahoo.com/cspoutdoors/noname5.html
(same as Stamet's uses).
Then, test moisture level & add water - until you get it where you want it.
I am not a fan of "dunking" a colonized substrate, nor removing a colonized substrate - from a tray. As that simply exposes it to possible contaminates - from every possible angle.
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Re: do you dunk your poo?? [Re: SubGen1us]
#4811268 - 10/16/05 02:36 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
SubGen1us said:
Cold shock and dunk will do u good.
Wrong. Especially wrong.
You don't cold shock cubes, it has been disproven. And especially after a flush already you would not cold shock.
And the casing layer is the water reservoir for the fruitbodies, if you had no casing, then the poo itself would be the source. So just make sure the casing layer is wet.
Edited by ThePerspective (10/16/05 02:39 PM)
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I had pretty good results soaking my poo trays for about 4 hours or so, completely submerged. It works, and you'll definitely see results if it's done right.
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True, the "COLD SHOCK" thing, (IMHO), is way over-rated.
A simple drop in temps - to the low or mid 70's, light & FAE has done it for me - always.
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SubGen1us
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Quote:
ThePerspective said:
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SubGen1us said:
Cold shock and dunk will do u good.
Wrong. Especially wrong.
You don't cold shock cubes, it has been disproven. And especially after a flush already you would not cold shock.
And the casing layer is the water reservoir for the fruitbodies, if you had no casing, then the poo itself would be the source. So just make sure the casing layer is wet.
If u think about it dropping the temp to start pinning itself is a "cold shock"
now how can that be disproven.
Horse poo is good. Why?
well it holds more water than cow poo.
maybe i should have said rehydrate the substrate.
Casing is often used to describe the casing as a whole as i did not say casing layer.
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Re: do you dunk your poo?? [Re: SubGen1us]
#4811346 - 10/16/05 02:52 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I meant extreme COLD SHOCK, like in the fridge overnight, or dunking in ice water.
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SubGen1us
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Oh and besides, the post asks " do u dunk ur poo"
never once refering too cubes just too the poo.
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Re: do you dunk your poo?? [Re: SubGen1us]
#4811505 - 10/16/05 03:55 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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He's talking about poo, thus dung loving mushrooms (cubes). If he was growing exotics, he would likely say so. Cubes are tropical, they are not meant to be put into 35 degree conditions as they never see it during their lifetime. It delays pinning and can be an open door for contamination either from the fridge itself, moving to and from the fridge, or the mycelium network taking a hit from the cold and not being able to have an edge on contamination.
Edited by ThePerspective (10/16/05 03:57 PM)
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i think if you are going to dunk, spring water/mineral water is better than distilled. Distilled allows for rapid dissolving of nutes and minerals and what not, since it has nothing dissolved in it. Spring less so.
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Quote:
ThePerspective said:
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You don't cold shock cubes, it has been disproven.
how can you prove this?
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