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 Tien
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 delegalization of LSD in Russia 
#4810425 - 10/16/05 10:19 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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saw someone saying that here the other day.
anyone have a link to an article about that?
..sounds like bs to me.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Tien]
#4810447 - 10/16/05 10:32 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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http://www.lindesmith.org/global/drugpolicyby/asia/russia/
I think you mean decriminalization.
Delegalization would probably mean for it to stop being legal.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: HeavyToilet]
#4810493 - 10/16/05 10:47 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, I mean decriminalization.
Thank you for the link.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: HeavyToilet]
#4810584 - 10/16/05 11:14 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow, imagine you can be caught with 0.003 grams of LSD by a cop and you walk away a free man. That's freedom baby.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Learyfan]
#4810588 - 10/16/05 11:15 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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No it's not. It's decriminalization. Freedom is walking into a police station and reporting a theft of your 10 vials of liquid acid and getting full cooperation from the pigs.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: DNKYD]
#4810592 - 10/16/05 11:17 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: DNKYD]
#4810695 - 10/16/05 11:50 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
DNKYD said:
No it's not. It's decriminalization. Freedom is walking into a police station and reporting a theft of your 10 vials of liquid acid and getting full cooperation from the pigs.
Can't even get that when someone steals your car or TV.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: DNKYD]
#4810748 - 10/16/05 12:13 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
DNKYD said:
No it's not. It's decriminalization. Freedom is walking into a police station and reporting a theft of your 10 vials of liquid acid and getting full cooperation from the pigs.
Got me there.
I guess compared to American drug policy, this Russian decriminalization seems like freedom when it's really just a little more freedom.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Learyfan]
#4810752 - 10/16/05 12:15 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think you probably get a hefty fine though, just not jail time or a criminal record.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Learyfan]
#4810757 - 10/16/05 12:16 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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lol, that would be the day, if someone stole my stereo, they would prob find some way to arrest me.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: HeavyToilet]
#4810770 - 10/16/05 12:20 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
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I think you probably get a hefty fine though, just not jail time or a criminal record.
Are you sure? I assumed it meant that you were free to go, either with or without your drugs.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Learyfan]
#4810787 - 10/16/05 12:27 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's the same as marijuana in Canada. You'll get a fine, at most.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Learyfan]
#4810792 - 10/16/05 12:29 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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According to this site,
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President Vladimir Putin signed an amendment to the Criminal Code in December stipulating that possession of no more than 10 times the amount of a "single dose" would now be considered an administrative infraction rather than a criminal offense. Punishment would be a fine of no more than 40,000 rubles ($1,380) or community service.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: HeavyToilet]
#4810819 - 10/16/05 12:42 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Maybe it's a ploy to get the rest of the "drug-restricted" world into Russia. It sounds good though. They should do that here in the U.S.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: demiu5]
#4810864 - 10/16/05 12:56 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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it's probably a ploy to make money.. they get everyone used to doing these drugs again, and then BAM they crack down on it with harsher fines
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Phychotron]
#4810872 - 10/16/05 12:58 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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That doesn't make sense, because LSD isn't addictive.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Phychotron]
#4810907 - 10/16/05 01:07 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Uhh, no, they didn't add the fines after decriminalizing the drugs... it was done at the same time, under the same bill.
Do you actually know for a fact that the fines are harsher now than before the drugs were decriminalized?
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whadya say we take a trip to russia?
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: afoaf]
#4810950 - 10/16/05 01:18 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sounds good, my dad owns an apartment in Moscow with a hut tub.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Redstorm]
#4811466 - 10/16/05 03:46 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
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It's the same as marijuana in Canada. You'll get a fine, at most.
That's what I figured. Sounds like they'd only arrest you if they wanted to fuck with you. I guess whether they arrest you, keep your drugs or let you go is up to the officer.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Learyfan]
#4811501 - 10/16/05 03:54 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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the police are pretty corrupt in russia...even just going the speed limit but having another country's license plate on your car, they'll still pull you over and ticket you for no apparent reason.
oh by the way, for all those americans wanting to go there...the visas to get in are not only expensive but strict as hell
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: HeavyToilet]
#4811691 - 10/16/05 04:38 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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$40,000 Rubles is like a years pay for some of those people.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: boO]
#4811726 - 10/16/05 05:10 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Who the hell in their right mind would want to travel to Russia?
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A hut tub??
OMG WTF.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: DNKYD]
#4814251 - 10/17/05 12:17 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Someone who wants to sample the mail order brides before buying.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: DNKYD]
#4814347 - 10/17/05 12:33 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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i would...
st petersberg and moscow are beautiful so i've heard. just you have to plan your trip pretty well prior to going, making sure the hotel tells the govt you're staying in their premisis, get your visa etc...
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Tien]
#4814374 - 10/17/05 12:41 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I want to move to russia now, women are easy and lsd is decriminalized..in the US a hit of LSD is a felony..3 is manslaughter..it could be less now.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Redstorm]
#4814979 - 10/17/05 04:37 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Redstorm said:
It's the same as marijuana in Canada. You'll get a fine, at most.
not according to canadian law
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5248688 - 01/31/06 08:57 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:
Redstorm said:
It's the same as marijuana in Canada. You'll get a fine, at most.
not according to me
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5248743 - 01/31/06 09:08 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is old news, isn't it? There's Czech crystal floating around in the U.S. to the best of my knowledge.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5248746 - 01/31/06 09:09 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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this isnt OTD, thats a troll
maybe you should check the papers and see what canada is really doing
heres an example of the friendly city and how friendly they are and accepting they are
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/TorontoSun/News/2004/12/02/pf-755449.html
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5248761 - 01/31/06 09:12 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not a troll, I said that because you never seem to post a source.
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5248784 - 01/31/06 09:16 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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check the canadian news sources...
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5248795 - 01/31/06 09:17 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't have to, I can hear Canadians complaining. Can't you hear them too?
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5248798 - 01/31/06 09:18 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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this would be a good stoping point
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5248802 - 01/31/06 09:18 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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O.K. peace
(though i'm not exactly sure what we're stopping)
g'nite
Edited by Microcosmatrix (01/31/06 09:27 PM)
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Skunk420]
#5248861 - 01/31/06 09:29 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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skunk78395 said:
I want to move to russia now, women are easy and lsd is decriminalized..in the US a hit of LSD is a felony..3 is manslaughter..it could be less now.
Where did you read that? (Urban Legend)
I think 1 - 10 grams (including carrier weight) constitutes a felony with five year mandatory mimimum. Under that, I'm pretty sure is determined by dosage units of a certain amount of weight (of course including carrier weight).
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Re: delegalization of LSD in Russia [Re: Morphrying]
#5248905 - 01/31/06 09:39 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Of course it's an urban legend. The penalties for LSD seem way harsher than any manslaughter charge.
Look at Pickard and Apperson. How often do you hear of anyone getting 60 years or life in prison without parole for manslaughter?
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