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Ohio riot?
    #4807683 - 10/15/05 04:14 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

What's going on here?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: IgnatiusJReilly]
    #4807692 - 10/15/05 04:17 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, please link. i dont own a television.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: kilgore_trout]
    #4807704 - 10/15/05 04:21 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

CNN reporting a "riot" in Toledo, apparently gang-member response to nazi party demonstration of some kind.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: IgnatiusJReilly]
    #4807727 - 10/15/05 04:28 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/15/nazi.march/
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TOLEDO, Ohio (CNN) -- A neo-Nazi group's scheduled march against "black crime" in North Toledo, Ohio, sparked rioting among residents Saturday afternoon.

Police and SWAT teams moved in, and several people were arrested.

As a result, the march was called off, and none of the National Socialist Movement group's 80 members who showed up to participate was arrested, according to spokesman Bill White.




An irrational response to people stating their viewpoints that don't toe-the-line with the ZOG line about racism? Wow, did the Shroomery move out there? Is that RONO I see in the front?
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Toledo police could not provide CNN any information on the rioting.

White's group promotes itself as America's Nazi Party and said that it was protesting black gangs, which they claimed were harassing white residents.

The group said it had received support from Toledo's white citizens and community activists for its march "against black crime."

White blamed the riot on Toledo police, saying they re-routed the group's march route to make it collide with a counter-demonstration.

Most of the violence happened when residents, who had pelted the Nazi marchers with bottles and rocks, took their anger out on police, said chief news photographer for CNN affiliate WTVG Brian Jagodzinski.




Ah the open discourse that our founding fathers wanted is happening right here. I wish that those Nazis would have pulled out Uzi's and blasted some people. Some day...
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Video around 2:25 p.m. showed crowds using bats to bring down a wooden fence, as looters broke into a small grocery store.




LOOTING? Man, one HINT of civil unrest and people starts-a lootin. Who here would like to bet me what color these looters are?
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Around 3 p.m., crowds of young men pelted the outside of a two-story residence with rocks, smashed out the windows with wooden crates, ran inside and threw out the furniture and lamps from the upper level windows to the sidewalk below.

"The crowd was very...extremely agitated at the police... for doing this [making arrests in] the community when they should be doing this to the Nazis," Jagodzinski said.




Yea! How dare those people, who filed for a permit to march, be able to speak their minds. Anyone notice anything about this? Irrational behavior towards "Nazis"? anything-goes when dealing with them? Sounds familiar
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Jagodzinski said his news van and a police car had windows smashed and doors bent back.

When the violence broke out, the Nazi marchers returned to their headquarters, White said.



They should have returned to stock-up on weapons.


Looks like the jew media has done a great job in that city of brainwashing the people. No riots took place when a 14 year old girl was raped there [http://www.toledopolice.com/crimealert/091505Rape/Datasheet.htm], no riots took place when two armed negro thugs murdered someone [http://www.toledopolice.com/crime%20stopper.html], but if some white guys are upset at the black violence, ohh lawzy, letza riot.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: IgnatiusJReilly]
    #4807730 - 10/15/05 04:29 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

oh man, id like to get down there. Im not too far. can someone post links?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4807739 - 10/15/05 04:31 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Typical blacks.  Starting a riot when something doesn't go there way.  Soon they'll be looting, but we know it has nothing to do with genetics.  Just the economic conditions :rolleyes:


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: daimyo]
    #4807743 - 10/15/05 04:32 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

They are already looting, no doubt in protest of their ancestors being held as slaves!


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: daimyo]
    #4807747 - 10/15/05 04:33 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Nevermind, they already started the looting.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4807755 - 10/15/05 04:34 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)



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TOLEDO, Ohio ? A crowd that gathered to protest a white supremacists' march Saturday turned violent, throwing baseball-sized rocks at police and vandalizing vehicles.

Six people were arrested and police, fire and media vehicles were damaged, Police Chief Mike Navarre said.

At least two dozen members of the Roanoke, Va.-based National Socialist Movement (search), which calls itself "America's Nazi Party," gathered at a city park to march under police protection. Organizers said they were demonstrating against black gangs that were harassing white residents.

The march was canceled, and the violence broke out about a quarter mile away from the park along the planned route.

Keith White, a black resident, criticized city officials for initially allowing the march.

"They let them come here and expect this not to happen?" said White, 29.


Two hours after authorities called off the march, 150 officers in helicopters and cruisers and on foot, bicycles and horses continued to chase bands of youths.






"How dauh dems come intu a town and tryza speak dey mine. We'z so usset weza go do some lootzin, hold my new tv whitecracka motherfucka".


Why white people don't just rise up and squash the negro bug, I'll never understand.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4807760 - 10/15/05 04:35 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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Why white people don't just rise up and squash the negro bug, I'll never understand.




And people of your position wonder why you have no credibility?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4807766 - 10/15/05 04:36 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,172379,00.html
Great video, lots of black folk out looting. Attacking news reporters, looting (The typical black activity), and guess who is doing the attacks? The hate mongering white devils? Nope, darkie.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4807767 - 10/15/05 04:36 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

While your points are sound, I find them unnerving. But dissent should be accounted for in a melting pot society and I suppose it's all in good fun (looting and fires and violence and the like). I think the message the "nazi" party puts forth invites violence, and I think the black gang-member types were foolish and stupid to jump right in. Opportunists. Typical of an unhealthy "victimhood" value system. Spineless.

But the antagonists are spineless in a way, too. Reactionary. Bitching. Utterly depressing.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: kilgore_trout]
    #4807771 - 10/15/05 04:38 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

dude that article you linked said they didnt have a permit and didnt seek one. so why did you start saying that they did?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: IgnatiusJReilly]
    #4807780 - 10/15/05 04:39 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Unnerving? Wait until the blacks in YOUR neighborhood decide to riot.

How are they reactionary? They didn't "react", they are legally protesting, using their Constitutional right. The Negros are the ones that are commiting acts of violence. The Nazi party couldn't have preached violence today because the negros started rioting before they even got there. Is that sort of like a pre-action? "We ain'za gotza heah wat dem white devils say, we'za be towld dat day hate blacks so weza a start a protest. and getza new teevee to wach BET wif."


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: kilgore_trout]
    #4807783 - 10/15/05 04:40 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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White blamed the riot on Toledo police, saying they re-routed the group's march route to make it collide with a counter-demonstration.




If the police were there, and had a route planned, sounds like they were there legally.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4807786 - 10/15/05 04:41 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

No credibility? How else are we going to deal with this? Throw more money at them? Blacks have had ample time to make something of themselves, instead they are impinging upon a groups constitutional right to express themselves and assemble peacefully. Maybe if those evil Whites had just opened up their store doors, this looting wouldn't occur. Damn white folks and their ignerunce.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4807802 - 10/15/05 04:44 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

The "blacks" in my neighborhood already did.

"Reactionary" typically refers to those rebelling against novel societal changes. The melting pot never settled well.

Your use of "black" language is deplorable, for it is meant for no other purpose than to alienate and anger.

The nazi party is a reactionary force. But they are not solely to blame, just as your own value system is the product the more unsavory aspects of our culture.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4807803 - 10/15/05 04:44 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

http://www.nsm88.com/rally/nsm_toledo_rally.html
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The National Socialist Movement has been overwhelmed today by expressions of support from white citizens and community activists in Toledo, Ohio, in response to news of a planned National Socialist march against black crime planned for this October 15th. Almost a dozen Toledo residents have sent in membership applications since news of the planned rally broke this morning, and NSM national headquarters, Ohio state headquarters, and its information officers have been deluged with requests for information on the group.

Other white nationalist organizations across the Midwest, particularly the World Church of the Creator congregations based in Chicago, Joliet and Peoria, Illinois, sent in messages of solidarity and have pledged to send activists to join the rally. The NSM has also been contacted by other white groups in Indiana, Ohio and Pennsylvania about participation.

City officials today reportedly stated they would not issue a permit for the march, but the National Socialist Movement responded that they were not seeking a permit, and that no permit was necessary as they were not asking the City for any special accommodations. NSM spokesman Bill White pointed out that the City has no authority to stop citizens from dressing as they choose and walking down the street while expressing political opinions:

"If the City attempts to engage in any prior restraint of our free speech we will bring an injunction, though I would hope City officials are not foolish enough to embarrass themselves by giving us such an easy win," White stated to the press today, "We are not asking that roads be closed; we are not asking that sidewalks be closed; we are not asking for additional police protection; all we are saying is that we will have a few people walking down the street making a statement about an issue the City is refusing to address -- and if the City interferes with or unreasonably burdens our ability to do so, then they will answer for their behavior in court.

"Plus, given the massive outpouring of support we are receiving from Toledo residents, I think City officials may want to think before arresting a large number of the people whose votes put them in office."

White also noted that the NSM had been contacted by local police and was hoping to open a dialogue to coordinate the planned legal, peaceful march with police authorities in order to minimize any disruption of normal Toledo life.

White stated that he and other NSM leaders, including NSM Commander Jeff Schoep, NSM Ohio State Leader Mark Martin, and NSM Toledo Unit Leader Ron Riehl had been contacted by a number of white Toledo residents, including several members of North Toledo community groups, all of whom have been supportive of the National Socialist Movement, and some of whom have pledged use of their homes as either temporary housing for out of state activists, or as alternate rallying sites if the City attempts to block the march.

"Its clear we've hit a nerve with the people of Toledo," White stated, "We've always had a positive response when we've held these marches, but I have never seen the types of offers of hospitality and support that we have been seeing today."




No permit, apparently, but you don't need one, as they said, to walk down the streets.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: IgnatiusJReilly]
    #4807808 - 10/15/05 04:45 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

The mayor of toledo has dark skin. He found the actions of the rioters deplorable.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: IgnatiusJReilly]
    #4807810 - 10/15/05 04:45 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

"not solely to blame"? For what? for the looting and riots? haha, it's nice that you don't blame the people that were there peacefully assembling! I mean, gosh, that sounds like proper cause for a riot to me


I wish that the white residents would just arm up and fix this goddamned problem. It wouldn't take but 5 armed white guys with rifles out there popping negros heads off like dandilions to get the rest of them cringing in terror inside.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: IgnatiusJReilly]
    #4807811 - 10/15/05 04:46 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

As any established citizen would.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: IgnatiusJReilly]
    #4807814 - 10/15/05 04:46 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Look I can make a bunch of posts, too.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: IgnatiusJReilly]
    #4807820 - 10/15/05 04:48 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Wow! the only differnces are...


1) you posted asking what was going on, I replied with news articles, footage, links to video and commentary upon such

2) Then I posted something from the actual group holding the protest


While you just like boosting your post count.

Sorry if my posts took up too much space, you can resume your self hatred now.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4807839 - 10/15/05 04:54 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

what would happen if the nazi's attacked a bojangles in retaliation? that would get their attention!!!


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #4807861 - 10/15/05 04:57 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

They definatly should.

however, the citizens of Toledo are going to se a few things here.


1) When people decide to assemble peacefully, the negros go CRAZY, looting, rioting, violence, I'm sure we'll add "Rape" into the equation here soon

2) The whites didn't behave that way. They wanted to get their message across about black violence being rampant in their city.. What are whites going to see now? This is better press than any speech those brown-shirted goons could have put on.

All in all, i'd say it's pretty sucessful. I bet some of the white business owners are going to start waking up now.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4807867 - 10/15/05 04:58 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Yeah, since blacks were never firehosed or attacked by polic dogs for protesting. :smirk:

Get your facts straight.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4807874 - 10/15/05 05:00 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

What the fuck are you talking about? Who cares? Are you saying that it's good that it happened that way? That this is just payback against whitey? Typical self-hating white guy.

"well, my store got broken into, my daughters got raped and my sons got murdered, but now I don't feel so bad that before I was born, and before these negros were born, some other white guys were racist towards them"

Great fucking logic there Einstein.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4807881 - 10/15/05 05:01 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Hey, man. I was joking with that last post, because I realized that I was posting post after post. No hard feelings.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4807885 - 10/15/05 05:01 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Wow, this is ridiculous. I haven't seen neo-nazi's on the television, but I've seen lots of blacks kicking in doors of random houses and looting.

I don't know where the park is where the nazi's are protesting, but it isn't inside that house.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: IgnatiusJReilly]
    #4807890 - 10/15/05 05:02 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

I find it amusing and utterly strange how this language and these ideologies make enemies of people. Especially over the internet.

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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: looner2]
    #4807892 - 10/15/05 05:02 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

In the eyes of blacks ( and redstorm, and probbaly paradigm later on today) all whites are guilty of racism, so even if the neg's attack and murder young white people, well hey, it's kinda like them attacking the nazis.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: IgnatiusJReilly]
    #4807896 - 10/15/05 05:03 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

What a case and point. A protest. A protest about black violence. What happens???? How fucking stoopid do you need to be attack apeaceable assembly designed to speak against the crimes your community has committed.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #4807899 - 10/15/05 05:04 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

SHUT UP WHITE MAN GIMME A NEW TEEVEE!


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4807924 - 10/15/05 05:12 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

sorry we got no tvies, this here is a book store.
Am i safe?


sorry i feel absolutely no compassioin or sympathey for muhfuckers who do things like that!!!


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #4807928 - 10/15/05 05:13 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

A book store? hahaha yea I think that they'll leave ya off of the "loot" list.

These negros just need to be shot. All whites should be evacuated and the city bombed.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #4807929 - 10/15/05 05:13 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

I am just palying around yall, please none take offense.

I am corn beef eating beer drinking smei illetterate redneck. Hill billy extraordinaire and will take any cracker jokes you can throw at me with a smile. Cause.... well.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #4807932 - 10/15/05 05:15 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

did i mentioin i am irish. and german. makes me a stubborn drunk


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4807939 - 10/15/05 05:16 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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What the fuck are you talking about? Who cares? Are you saying that it's good that it happened that way? That this is just payback against whitey? Typical self-hating white guy.

"well, my store got broken into, my daughters got raped and my sons got murdered, but now I don't feel so bad that before I was born, and before these negros were born, some other white guys were racist towards them"

Great fucking logic there Einstein.




You said whites don't act that way. I was saying they have historically acted that way.

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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4807951 - 10/15/05 05:19 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Maybe I'm missing something.

By "this way", I meant looting. You alluded to water hoses and dogs. OK, they did that. But, um, thats not looting? So, what the fuck are you talking about? In fact, whites were pretty mean to blacks in the past. HOWEVER THEY DIDNT LOOT THEIR STORES

Meaning that they didn't act "this way" towards them. I don't know how much simpler I can make it, it's not a matter of proving a point, it's a matter of being able to speak and understand English.

Show me where whites were looting and rioting because blacks were marching, and I"ll say that whites have acted that way.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4807953 - 10/15/05 05:20 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

This is a stoopid argument. I have an armorlite 50 cal sniper rifle which I dubbed a thug's cry for just this sort of thing.
Only thing i have killed so far are arab watermelons, my finger is itching.

love to put one a them hot ones in a looter, and he will most probably be black when he comes.
Its true they tend towards the more criminal.

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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4807966 - 10/15/05 05:21 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

I'm sorry I didn't understand you were creating such strict criteria. I thought you meant acting "this way" you meant violent, reactionary responses to protest.

Btw, your condescending nature is not impressive in the slightest.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #4807967 - 10/15/05 05:22 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

.50 cal ammunition is too expensive. A round costs much more than one negros life is worth.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4807974 - 10/15/05 05:23 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Also, where the fuck do you come up with the fact that I'm part of the "Kill Whitey" multicultural club? Because I don't agree with you on all points you bring up?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4807977 - 10/15/05 05:24 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

get them half price from a friend. Anyways gladly pay to hear a looter shout, see a bleed.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4807986 - 10/15/05 05:25 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

http://www.amren.com/store/colorcrime.htm

Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.

When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.

Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.

Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.

Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.

Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.

Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #4807994 - 10/15/05 05:26 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

sorry an assembly was attacked because they were unhappy with the criminal propensity of the black community.

Is that true, seems almost poetic..


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4807995 - 10/15/05 05:26 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Do you think that blacks are more likely than whites to commit crimes?


Do you think that multiculturalism in America will work?


Why do you think it's not working now?


Those answers should be enough to solidify or change my opinion of your views, maybe I'm wrong, but I Doubt it.


Apparently you totally missed the underlying points in Unintended Consequences.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4807997 - 10/15/05 05:27 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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A book store? hahaha yea I think that they'll leave ya off of the "loot" list.

These negros just need to be shot. All whites should be evacuated and the city bombed.




Your no better than any thuggish nigger using speech like that.

You remind me of this little black kid last week, who wouldnt leave our softball field and called us bitches, and threatened to play "bat vs. pistol" and that he would run home and get his gun and shoot us. All talk, from a child who's parents have filled his mind with hate.

you sound like a child whose parents have filled your head with hate.

On a personal level, how many blacks in your life time have committed a crime of any sort, or any misdeed at all, against you specifically?

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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #4808004 - 10/15/05 05:28 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

there aggressors were black right?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MrBump]
    #4808031 - 10/15/05 05:31 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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Your no better than any thuggish nigger using speech like that.




I wouldn't use words like that man, it comes with a ban here in free speech land.
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You remind me of this little black kid last week, who wouldnt leave our softball field and called us bitches, and threatened to play "bat vs. pistol" and that he would run home and get his gun and shoot us. All talk, from a child who's parents have filled his mind with hate.




Do I hate the fact that blacks seem genetically suited to commit violent crimes against whites? Yes. Do I hate the fact that negros blame all of their problems on whitie? Yes.
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On a personal level, how many blacks in your life time have committed a crime of any sort, or any misdeed at all, against you specifically?




Every single one of them
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Now how many whites have committed a crime or misdeed against you in your lifetime?



Quite a few, I'm sure.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4808036 - 10/15/05 05:31 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

I missed nothing in the book.

I do not believe in politically correctness or forced integration, but I am not a racist.

Just because I do not believe in racial superiority or the inherent violence or certain races, doesn't mean I think whitey is to blame for anything.

If you knew me in real life, you would hear a rant at least every day about how the blacks need to get rid of the chip on their shoulder. Slavery was a long time ago.

I ber you wouldn't like people to label you pre-maturely as a racist, nazi, or anything else like that. In the same grain, I don't like being labelled a multiculturalist or anything else like that.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4808042 - 10/15/05 05:32 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Could you answer my questions then, please?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4808074 - 10/15/05 05:36 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Ok,

1. Yes, because their society stress violence.
2. It could, but I don't think it ever will.
3. It's not working b/c 1) Blacks are working against themselves by acting like they are owed somehting, 2) No one will be forced into something they don't want to do (and shouldn't)

The problem is, it doesn't matter if it solidifies my opinion in your view. You're not an authoritative source, expert, or scholar in anything.

I know I am not some soft-hearted liberal who want to force integration. I also know I am not a racist, though.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4808082 - 10/15/05 05:37 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Define "Racist".


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4808087 - 10/15/05 05:39 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

black people are by far the most racial, and inclined to be rascist folks in the country. I say the relocation of africans here two hundred years ago has done more for the proliferation of educated black people on the planet than any other act. Without slavery they would all have been victim to apartheid, we still have seen the end of the effects lingering there. They should be grateful.


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    #4808094 - 10/15/05 05:40 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

if not apartheid then they would still be whacking bush in the republic of congo or some other fuck off place where no oppurtunity exists.


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    #4808113 - 10/15/05 05:45 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

i will be in trouble fro somethings i said to swami in the philosophy thread. hahah, huehuecoital didn't like it. i never knew message boards could be so fun!!! what a great way to waste a perfect saturday.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4808124 - 10/15/05 05:48 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

I suppose I would define is as one who thinks his or her race is genetically superior to another's.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4808158 - 10/15/05 05:58 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

And you don't think that whites have contributed more to the advancement of civilization than blacks?


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    #4808169 - 10/15/05 06:02 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

In spite of everything, MagicalMystery is an invaluable source for learning about human behavior. Hatred, perversion, self-loathing, obsessiveness??it's all evident in his posts. This post here is not ban-worthy, because I am discussing the psychology that motivates gutter-think. MM is a case in point. The micro gives a more flavorful view of the macro. I am weary of statistics, for in my experience, in spite of being the brunt of hate from many different races, I feel that the American experiment is working. I will now stop posting in the politics forum, for it is apparently a place created for extremely disgruntled people.
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    #4808173 - 10/15/05 06:06 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Yes, but it little to do with genes. It has more to do with environment and circumstance.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4808265 - 10/15/05 06:46 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

ive been to toledo countless times. i partied there for a year striaght. its predominantly black. the area where those scumbag nazis marched is a mostly black area. i blame the city for letting that nazi scum march through a black neighborhood. i believe they cold have found a different area to grant the permit. its no suprise the blacks got pissed and went off. its onluy ashame they didnt actually get their hands on any of the nazis.


let me also say ill bet nazis couldnt get permits to goosestep through jewish hoods in NYC.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4808287 - 10/15/05 06:57 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

They didn't have a permit, nor did they need one, Captain Literacy.


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    #4808406 - 10/15/05 07:55 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate

The only laws I've ever broken are speed limits, taxes, and drug prohibition. :shrug:


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4808438 - 10/15/05 08:05 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

its onluy ashame they didnt actually get their hands on any of the nazis

Is that how you propose people who don't agree settle their differences?  :thumbdown:


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Diploid]
    #4808439 - 10/15/05 08:05 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Fuck that. I'd be looting the shit out of that place after I was done kickin those nazi faggots' asses. Apparently I'd be the only white guy too..whats up with that?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808445 - 10/15/05 08:09 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

I'd be looting the shit out of that place after I was done kickin those nazi faggots' asses

So they're only entitled to free speach as long as you approve?  :thumbdown:


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Diploid]
    #4808452 - 10/15/05 08:12 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Theyre entitled to whatever they want. This is America and I'm not the law. But I mean if you sit outside my house screaming about how you want to rape my grandmother, expect some consequences.  :undecided:


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808481 - 10/15/05 08:22 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

But I mean if you sit outside my house screaming about how you want to rape my grandmother, expect some consequences.

Those demonstrators were not screaming about raping anyone. They were protesting black people committing crimes and they were run out of the area (in an almost comedic irony) by black people committing crimes!

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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Diploid]
    #4808491 - 10/15/05 08:30 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Good they got what they deserve for pulling that shit. Think of the innocent black families that have to deal with that bullshit. Trying to explain to their kids wtf is going on and why these random white people are hating on them because theyre..black. Its not the kind of message you want to send to any community.

BTW dont twist the situation, this wasnt the white community protesting against the black community for crime. This was a fucking nazi protest. What percentage of the white population does that reflect?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Diploid]
    #4808496 - 10/15/05 08:31 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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They were protesting black people committing crimes and they were run out of the area (in an almost comedic irony) by black people committing crimes!



Yeah. That's what's most striking to me. You're breaking up an "evil" neo-Nazi rally, then going off and committing fucking crime? I think that's a bit counter-productive.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808505 - 10/15/05 08:32 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

They are entitled to their free speech. They were not threatening violence; only marching down the street like they are allowed to.

Your views of using violence to stifle free speech are easily absurd and borderline idiotic.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808510 - 10/15/05 08:34 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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BTW dont twist the situation, this wasnt the white community protesting against the black community for crime. This was a fucking nazi protest. What percentage of the white population does that reflect?




He didn't twist the situation. There was a protest by Nazis. The blacks decided Nazis don't deserve free speech and they rioted. How much more obvious can it be to you?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: bukkake]
    #4808514 - 10/15/05 08:36 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Right, so if some guy kicks the shit out of your g/f and you track him down and beat his ass..Thats counter-productive?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808519 - 10/15/05 08:36 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

The Nazis didn't beat anyone up.

You really must not be grasping the situation. The Nazis had a march b/c of black crime. How do the blacks respond? By rioting and looting. If you can't see the irony in that, there isn't much that can be done to help you see.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808521 - 10/15/05 08:37 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Good they got what they deserve for pulling that shit.

By 'that shit' you mean exercising their right to free speech?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Diploid]
    #4808525 - 10/15/05 08:39 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

I don't think he understands that free speech applies to everyone, not just those who agree with him.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808527 - 10/15/05 08:39 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

"He didn't twist the situation. There was a protest by Nazis. The blacks decided Nazis don't deserve free speech and they rioted. How much more obvious can it be to you?"

Yes, I completely agree. What I meant was he generalized the situation. I just wanted to make it clear that its not a white group against a black group, its a nazi group and what they represent is a horrible thing in even most white people's minds.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808532 - 10/15/05 08:40 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Yes, but just b/c they don't represent whites as a whole, doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to protest freely.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808543 - 10/15/05 08:44 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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Right, so if some guy kicks the shit out of your g/f and you track him down and beat his ass..Thats counter-productive?



That's a terrible analogy. I'm not a nazi, nor do I condone most of their idealogue, but I am not going to pelt them with eggs, nevermind prove their point by becoming aggressive and committing crimes.

Why don't we just embrace a totalitarian society and do this to any and everyone who protests and exhibits peaceful free speech?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808549 - 10/15/05 08:45 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Were about to go into circles here. I already made it clear that free speech is a right and I'm not saying they shouldnt have been allowed to do that. The rape example (and im not saying the nazis were raping black people :rolleyes:) was to show that when you exercise your free speech you have to be willing to suffer the natural consequences of it.

So its LEGAL to say what you want, but that does not mean people arent going to naturally react to it. You'd be just as easy to rise up against somebody protesting against you if you felt strongly enough about it.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808557 - 10/15/05 08:48 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

"That's a terrible analogy. I'm not a nazi, nor do I condone most of their idealogue, but I am not going to pelt them with eggs, nevermind prove their point by becoming aggressive and committing crimes."

lol. Are you even black? If you are then I commend you. But if not, ofcourse your not going to pelt them with eggs, they have no beef with you.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808559 - 10/15/05 08:49 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Then, you should at least agree that it is one thing to disagree, another to begin rioting, looting, and becoming violent.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808565 - 10/15/05 08:51 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

when you exercise your free speech you have to be willing to suffer the natural consequences of it

So, next time a million black people march on Washington, they should be willing to 'suffer the natural consequences' when a mob of white cops beat them up and throw them in jail. Alright...


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Diploid]
    #4808573 - 10/15/05 08:53 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

"So, next time a million black people march on Washington, they should be willing to suffer the 'natural consequences' when a mob of white cops beat them up and throw them in jail. Alright... "

Could you be a little more specific please? That makes absolutely no point. And anyway if it were cops who beat their ass then it would be for legal purposes.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808590 - 10/15/05 08:58 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

That makes absolutely no point

It's the same comment you made:

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when you exercise your free speech you have to be willing to suffer the natural consequences of it




only now that it's rephrased as whites beating up blacks when they don't agree, you somehow think your own comment doesn't make sense.

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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808598 - 10/15/05 08:59 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

I'll say this, you all think we should have a more tolerant society. Its a lot easier for someone sitting on their computer chair to think up ways to improve the country, and then be all high and mighty about it. Looking down on every little bad thing that happens and say well if people were like me then blah blah blah.

I'll end my stance like this, people are people, maybe you all should be more tolerant of the fact that economic conditions, history, upbringing, race, enviornment, nazi protesters are all factors in some people's lives. Maybe not yours, but definitly to other people. And if you were shat out of those wombs maybe youd think differently.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808605 - 10/15/05 09:00 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Perhaps you should be tolerant to the views of the Nazis. They are people, too.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808627 - 10/15/05 09:05 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

"only now that it's rephrased as whites beating up blacks when they don't agree, you somehow think your own comment doesn't make sense.

Make up your mind.
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I never said you didnt make sense, you just didnt make a point. My point was specific bc the protesters were nazis who are a group of racists. You said something about black people marching in Washington and getting beat up by cops.

You can see the conflict with my example, yours wasnt specific. I'll help you.. Lets say a group of black people marched in a white community and protested some sort of race related issue. The black group has historically represented hate and racism. If they got run out of town, I'd say well what did they expect?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808634 - 10/15/05 09:07 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

I'll say this, you all think we should have a more tolerant society.

[/sarcasm mode on]

Nah, I agree with you, we're way too tolerant. We should round up all the niggers in the US and shoot them in the head.

[/sarcasm mode off]

You see, intolerance works both ways; it's bad for everyone, Nazis and blacks alike.



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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Diploid]
    #4808656 - 10/15/05 09:11 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

The point was to show how easy it is for certain people to talk about tolerance and intolerance. Please read past the first line of my post.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808658 - 10/15/05 09:12 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Quote:

Lets say a group of black people marched in a white community and protested some sort of race related issue. The black group has historically represented hate and racism. If they got run out of town, I'd say well what did they expect?




You're missing the point. The rioters aren't running the Nazis out of town, they're fighting cops. The cops aren't Nazis. The rioters aren't looting Nazi shops, they're looting whichever shops are handiest. The shopowners aren't Nazis either.

Recognizing the right of people to speak their minds necessarily means that every now and then you're going to have to recognize the right to speak their minds of people for whom you have no respect saying things you personally find distasteful. Bummer, but that's the way it works.




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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Phred]
    #4808670 - 10/15/05 09:15 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

No, I agree with you. The argument was taken to a different scenario. People were actually saying that the nazis shouldnt have been run out of town and that the black people should have peacefully not gotten involved.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808677 - 10/15/05 09:16 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

They shouldn't have gotten involved. And if they did harass or attack the Nazi's, they should have been arrested for interfering with their freedom of speech.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808689 - 10/15/05 09:19 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

My point was specific bc the protesters were nazis

So Hahzist, just out of curiosity: besides Nazis, what other groups do you think deserve violent attack when they demonstrate legally and peacefully?

Gays?

Heathen atheists?

Women?

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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Diploid]
    #4808696 - 10/15/05 09:21 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

"Gays?

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Women?

Drug users? "

Do any of these groups demonstrate unnecessary hate towards another group of people?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808703 - 10/15/05 09:25 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

I mean really are you kidding? Neo nazis are historically known for being violent and committing massive hate crimes. They have been found out on bomb plots among other horrible terrorist activities


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808704 - 10/15/05 09:25 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Do any of these groups demonstrate unnecessary hate towards another group of people?

Where are you getting this?

The only people demonstrating hate are the rioting blacks. The Nazis were demonstrating legally and peacefully.


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    #4808716 - 10/15/05 09:29 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Heres a little news article I found instantly on a Neo Nazi related crime. This shit happens all the time.

Last week, without any visible agitation or signs of regret, three neo-Nazis confessed to beating to death 39-year-old Mozambican Alberto Adriano in June this year in the eastern German city of Dessau. The Federal Prosecutor's Office has accused the three defendants?aged 16 to 24?of murder.

Federal Prosecutor Joachim Lampe read out the two-page indictment, which dryly describes a crime of almost unparalleled brutality. After a skinhead party, the two 16-year-old accused from nearby Wolfen, Frank M. and Christian R., had missed the last train back and by chance met 24-year old Enrico Hilprecht from Bad Liebenwerda in Brandenburg who had suffered the same fate. Drunk and bawling Nazi slogans, all three staggered through the streets of Dessau.

At 1:45 in the morning at the edge of the city park they encountered Alberto Adriano, who had been visiting friends and was on his way home. He was on his own and the three drunk neo-Nazis shouted abuse at him??blacks out? and ?what do you want here nigger?? According to the indictment, one of the three assailants held Adriano from behind while the other two hit him in the stomach and on the head until he fell to the ground. Then all three kicked him for several minutes.

?Enrico H. alone kicked him about 10 times in the head with his heavy boots,? Federal Prosecutor Lampe said. Afterwards, they pulled off his clothes, throwing his shirt, trousers and underpants into the bushes, took his wallet in which there were 50 marks, tore off his wrist watch and dragged the already unconscious Adriano, by now in only shoes and socks, a few meters further and began kicking him again.

Under police questioning, Frank M. indicated that between kicks Enrico H. had raised Adriano's head several times, bent down and asked what he was doing in Germany, and then pushed his face into the sandy ground. Only when a police patrol which had been called by a witness to the attack drove by did the assailants abandon their victim and attempt to flee in different directions.

When Alberto Adriano was taken to hospital he was still conscious and told the police he had tried in vain to appease his attackers and tell them he had lived in Germany for almost 20 years, that he was married to a German woman and had three small children whom he had to look after. Three days later, Alberto Adriano died as a consequence of his severe head injuries.

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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808721 - 10/15/05 09:31 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Quote:

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"Gays?

Heathen atheists?

Women?

Drug users? "

Do any of these groups demonstrate unnecessary hate towards another group of people?




You do not understand. Hate speech is covered by the freedom of speech as well.


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    #4808735 - 10/15/05 09:36 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Exactly. And they got what was expected.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808745 - 10/15/05 09:40 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Im goin out tonight. I just wanna say I've pretty much been playing devil's advocate. Somebody had to stick up for the black people =P

I mean everything I said I do believe, if the blacks came out, kicked some ass and that was it, I say fuck yah.  But ofcourse what ACTUALLY went down was inexcusable by the blacks. They even had that socialist group come support them and protest against the nazis..there really was no reason for the looting and attacking of police officers, that is fucked up, and I cant help but to just turn the other cheek bc I'll never understand why they would do that :frown:


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808753 - 10/15/05 09:42 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Anyone should be allowed to protest/march for whatever ideology they please, even if that ideology is violent in nature. As long as there is no direct incitation of violent behavior, free speech should be applied to them. When you say that a particular ideology is violent in nature, you begin to blur the lines of free speech - whose to say that other unpopular ideas are not violent? If there's enough people opposed to certain ideas, that's when free speech is the most at risk and such people should never be allowed to draw the lines of contitutionality. Free speech must always remain an objective dictation and principal, regardless how we feel about certain ideologies that are heretical in one's eyes.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4809250 - 10/16/05 12:00 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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Im goin out tonight. I just wanna say I've pretty much been playing devil's advocate. Somebody had to stick up for the black people =P



You weren't 'sticking up' for black people. You were defending rioters and looters.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4809270 - 10/16/05 12:06 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

I wonder how farakahn and sharpton will spin this?

has anyone even fallen harder for the bait?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4809427 - 10/16/05 01:12 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Your responces have been the most logically inconsisent babble I've ever read.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4809438 - 10/16/05 01:16 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Just to let you know about the article you linked to of the attacks that happen "all the time", it's dated 30 Auh 2000. Five years. Might not be the best way to back up your position.


Using your logic, so far, I've determind that force and violence can be used against those that gather to speak their mind, as long as that group has demonstrated it's propensity towards violence. Well, blacks are SEVEN TIMES as likely as whites to commit murder and much more likely to commit a hate crime. Given these facts and your critera, I say that we start (sarcasm mode on) shooting all gatherings of blacks, to include churches, public speeches and marches for civil rights (sarcasm off).

See the problem in your line of "thinking"


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4809442 - 10/16/05 01:19 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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Im goin out tonight. I just wanna say I've pretty much been playing devil's advocate. Somebody had to stick up for the black people =P



Any time a black person does something horrific and obviously wrong, it's the job of some white guy somewhre to stand up for them? Why?
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I mean everything I said I do believe, if the blacks came out, kicked some ass and that was it, I say fuck yah.  But ofcourse what ACTUALLY went down was inexcusable by the blacks.




So if they came out and attacked people who were marching peacefully, that would be OK.  Instead, they did exactly that, and it's inexcusable?  Sorry you totally lost me
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They even had that socialist group come support them and protest against the nazis..there really was no reason for the looting and attacking of police officers, that is fucked up, and I cant help but to just turn the other cheek bc I'll never understand why they would do that :frown:



Because violent looting is the natural instinct of the American negro.  I'm not saying it's genetic or whatever, but I"m saying that in that situation, american negros seem more likely to loot and riot than other groups.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: afoaf]
    #4809445 - 10/16/05 01:20 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Don't group Farakkhan and Sharpton as the voices of the black community. Farakkhan is a black nationalist who wants black people to take responsibilty for themselves and govern themselves in a nation free of oppression and outside influence. Sharpton is just another black man blaming whitie and getting poll points for it.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4809448 - 10/16/05 01:21 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

*seven times more likely to get arrested for their crimes... there are no statistics on unreported crime...


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #4809457 - 10/16/05 01:25 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

So it could go either way and is thus totally invalid to bring up and meant to obfuscate the issue. The "Oh, maybe more whites just got away with it" is just that, a maybe. You have no evidence, nor do I, but you are muddying the waters. I'd say that more gang-land murders go unsolved than any other type of murder, but thats just my assumption.


And, of course, sevenfold is a massive difference. Maybe if blacks were 150% as likely as whites to commit a murder I could see interpreting it as possible bias. It just sounds almost impossible for a vast conspiracy where blacks are arrested sevenfold as much as whites.

Also, most of the posts I see here talk about how racists are a dwindling group. If this is true, then where would all of these racist policemen be coming from that were letting white killers go free and capturing black men at such a disproportinate rate?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4809513 - 10/16/05 01:55 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Fuck that shit MagicalMystery why dont you actually read my posts and try to find the actual point of what im saying. Its not that fucking hard to comprehend. Anyway, what ACTUALLY happened was not that the blacks beat the shit out of nazis which is what the debate was about (if that had happened). I was pointing out that what actually happened was the looting of stores and fighting with police officers which is inexcusible to me. Beating the shit out of nazis however is excusible. Please read and understand whats going on instead of jumping in and acting like a dick.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #4809517 - 10/16/05 01:56 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Woops sorry this is Hahzist im at buddies house and im on his account by accident, please dont hold anything i say against Amber_Glow =P


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #4809541 - 10/16/05 02:10 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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Beating the shit out of nazis however is excusible. Please read and understand whats going on instead of jumping in and acting like a dick.




What a complete loon. Bye now, scurry along.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4809567 - 10/16/05 02:18 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

and you say you got past the admissions board at duke medical school? did you happen to mention any of your racial views?

or more importantly, will you be able to set them aside when treating minority patients?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #4809577 - 10/16/05 02:22 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

They don't really ask about that.  MCAT scores were a bit more important. :smile:


If I were put in a situation where black looters were being shot by business owners and brought into the emergency room, I'd put them at the bottom of the list.  If they died, I wouldn't be upset.


If a young black girl was hit by a bus, I'd do everything in my power to save her life.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4809587 - 10/16/05 02:24 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

so you would probe into the situation and determine if a minority was worthy before administering treatment?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #4809595 - 10/16/05 02:26 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

If I knew that ANYONE was a scumbag, I wouldn't operate on them, no.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4809607 - 10/16/05 02:29 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

so how could someone coming to you for treatment insure that he'd not be deemed a scumbag by you? would you put up a poster in the er saying "you are a scumbag if:...?" and telling them to seek treatment elsewhere?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #4809622 - 10/16/05 02:32 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

First off, I'm not planning on being a trauma surgeon, so it's not that big of a deal.

Second off, if a private doctor refuses to see a patient, it's not a big deal. It's not like their is a shortage of doctors out there.

Lets just dream up a scenario that I think might answer your question.

Lets say that I was the only thorasic surgeon in a 2 hour radius one night. I was called and told that during a riot, a black man had been wounded breaking into someones house to rob them. Could I please come assist? My answer would be no. I wouldn't spend my time saving that persons life.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #4809627 - 10/16/05 02:33 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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Beating the shit out of nazis however is excusible. Please read and understand whats going on instead of jumping in and acting like a dick.




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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: IgnatiusJReilly]
    #4809649 - 10/16/05 02:36 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

im having some problems understanding how a state that voted for bush would have problems with nazis :wink:...


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4809716 - 10/16/05 02:55 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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Lets say that I was the only thorasic surgeon in a 2 hour radius one night. I was called and told that during a riot, a black man had been wounded breaking into someones house to rob them. Could I please come assist? My answer would be no. I wouldn't spend my time saving that persons life.




well, i doubt you would get a call like that... more likely you would get a call saying "we have a man with a gunshot wound, we need you stat"...

would you waste precious seconds asking the race and the circumstances before rendering aid?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #4809750 - 10/16/05 03:06 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Nope, if I knew, I wouldn't operate. if I didn't, I wouldn't spend time investigating.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4809771 - 10/16/05 03:11 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

wow... so committed.. to both nazionalism and medical science... you'll make a fine doctor...


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4809776 - 10/16/05 03:12 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

You'd get your Medical license pulled in a heartbeat for refusing to render aid due to race....


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #4809779 - 10/16/05 03:12 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

You got to ask yourself how long someone like that would have lived anyway.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #4809785 - 10/16/05 03:13 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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You'd get your Medical license pulled in a heartbeat for refusing to render aid due to race....




oh no, it wouldn't be about race... it would be about scumbaggery


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4809788 - 10/16/05 03:14 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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First off, I'm not planning on being a trauma surgeon, so it's not that big of a deal.

Second off, if a private doctor refuses to see a patient, it's not a big deal. It's not like their is a shortage of doctors out there.

Lets just dream up a scenario that I think might answer your question.

Lets say that I was the only thorasic surgeon in a 2 hour radius one night. I was called and told that during a riot, a black man had been wounded breaking into someones house to rob them. Could I please come assist? My answer would be no. I wouldn't spend my time saving that persons life.




And the next day you would be out of a job.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Unagipie]
    #4809798 - 10/16/05 03:17 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Maybe you should study how doctors work. Most professional surgeons in large cities have private practises. They see patients in their offices and, if needed, schedule surgical procedures in the local hospital. The hospital charges a set fee for the nursing staff, sterilization of instruments, basically for providing the doctor with the equipment and staff that he needs. This is usually billed directly to the patient. The doctor almost never works for the hospital.

The hospital grants the doctor "hospital privledges", meaning that the doctor can admit people, schedule surgeries, etc. The most a hospital could do would be to revoke privledges. A doctor who has his own private practise has a lot of leeway, including the right to say "I just don't feel like coming in now, find someone else".


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4809825 - 10/16/05 03:23 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Uh, that's not exactly an E.R. setting so why even mention that you wouldn't assist an injured black rioter?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Unagipie]
    #4809846 - 10/16/05 03:32 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

he doesn't expect to have to be an intern, he's just gonna go straight into private practice :rofl2:


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Unagipie]
    #4809864 - 10/16/05 03:39 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

If you notice, you'll see where I said that I don't want to to trauma surgery.

Mike, interns aren't all required to work in the ER. Would you ask a welder to apprentice as a plumber for a year? You intern in the field you are planning on going in to. Cosmetic surgeon interns don't pull 72 hour shifts at the hospital, nor do podiatrical interns.


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    #4809868 - 10/16/05 03:40 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

I hear working in an ER is pretty stressful


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    #4809877 - 10/16/05 03:43 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

At any rate, once word got around that your private practice refused to treat a person because they were black, you would lose alot of business.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Unagipie]
    #4809880 - 10/16/05 03:45 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

So be it.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4809892 - 10/16/05 03:50 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

I call bullshit. I think when push came to shove, you would not endanger the prospect of profits and risk your business for something so petty as skin color.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4809896 - 10/16/05 03:51 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

cosmetic surgery? so what would you do if a black guy wanted you to turn him white? would you do it?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Unagipie]
    #4809901 - 10/16/05 03:52 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Yea OK ya got me.  If I were a cosmetic surgeon, I'd do surgeries on whoever could pay me.  Only color i'd see would be green :smile:


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #4809905 - 10/16/05 03:54 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

A German man goes to his doctor and says "Hey, I'd like you to make me into a Polack!" The doctor says "OK, but I'll have to remove a quarter of your brain." German says OK. After surgery the man wakes up and the doctor says "I have some bad news, instead of removing a quarter of your brain, I've removed all but a quarter of your brain, you aren't Polish." The man says "Yo so what I beez now?"


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4809910 - 10/16/05 03:55 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

I'll be sure to look you up when I finally get enough money for my sex change operation


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Unagipie]
    #4809914 - 10/16/05 03:56 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

half off if you cut your own nuts and cock off before you come in


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4810359 - 10/16/05 11:48 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

If you got that call at 2 am and it was a white guy that got injured breaking into someones house would your answer still be no?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: looner2]
    #4810943 - 10/16/05 03:16 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

Most likely it would be no.

Again, this is all pure speculation. I don't want to be a trauma surgeon so the issue will never arise.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4811142 - 10/16/05 04:04 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

This just goes to show that if there's the slightest breakdown of society then the black people go bazerk, and commit all sorts of autracities en masse. The left wing are helping these criminals destroy society because the left wing feel they are unfairly with held much needed drugs like heroin and marijuana.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Los_Pepes]
    #4811154 - 10/16/05 04:07 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

I'm glad this happened. How much good are those brownshirted goons flying swastikas going to do at recruiting normal white people who's fathers and grandfathers fought the Nazis? None. How much does it give them converts to their cause when blacks go out of control, rioting and looting? Quite a bit.

I'm sure that the National Alliance will be sending lots of literature to that town now.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4811910 - 10/16/05 07:52 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

As more and more black people move from Washington DC to Prince George's County Maryland, the crime rate sky rockets. The county executive says the reason the crime rate keeps going up is because of people moving from DC to Maryland.

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The county’s murder rate — 133 slayings as of Tuesday — is nearly 18 percent higher than it was this time last year. Carjackings are up 55 percent and robberies are up 34 percent from 2004.





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    #4811973 - 10/16/05 08:02 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

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County officials theorized that crime must be spilling over from the District of Columbia, which as recently as 2002 had the highest per capita murder rate in the nation.





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The county's evolution

Fears that city crime and other urban problems will invade suburban paradise are nothing new - many Prince Georgians once fled the city themselves.

The door to the dream opened wider for black Americans with the 1968 federal Fair Housing Act. That same year, majority-white Prince George's voted for segregationist Alabama Gov. George Wallace in the Democratic presidential primary.

After the 1968 riots, the county population almost doubled in 10 years as the District lost population, according to census figures.

In 40 years, the county's black population grew by 406,000, while some 306,000 whites fled.

Prince George's became majority-black in 1990, and by 2000 the black population topped the District - 498,301 to 340,088.

Around this time, a new divide opened between haves in the newer upscale developments outside the Beltway and Inner-Beltway have-nots in the aging communities.

"It's an incredible paradox," said University of Maryland Sociology Professor William Falk. "On one side [of the Beltway], you have the greatest concentration of black wealth in the county. On the other side, you have the older inner suburbs that are becoming a vexing problem."

By the 1990s, it also became evident that black suburbanites could be as wary of migration from the city as their white predecessors.

In the mid-'90s, inner-Beltway residents worried that extending Metro lines from the District might give city criminals easier access to their neighborhoods.

At the same time, those in more affluent outer suburbs worried crime would reach out from the city onto their basketball courts.

In 1996, following complaints about loud music and break-ins, a Mitchellville homeowners association hired off-duty cops to keep outsiders off neighborhood courts .

Similar concerns spread to other neighborhoods, and few basketball courts have since been constructed in parks outside the Beltway.






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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: IgnatiusJReilly]
    #4812858 - 10/16/05 10:45 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

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What's going on here?






Good opportunity to riot and steal.


but the Black Supremacist (Farrahkan) marched to cheers in DC....


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4812907 - 10/16/05 10:54 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

its called projection. when you take out and blame your shortcomings on those around you. Those shop owners they succeeded time for player hatin, cause i am player and i am losin. let me wreck their shit so theyfeel what i feel. like shizer


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    #4815747 - 10/17/05 01:38 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

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Those shop owners they succeeded time for player hatin, cause i am player and i am losin. let me wreck their shit so theyfeel what i feel. like shizer



This web site is primarily for English speakers. Could you translate that please?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4815763 - 10/17/05 01:47 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

with some strategically placed punctuation:

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Those shop owners, they succeeded.

time for player hatin, cause i am [a] player and i am losin.

let me wreck their shit so they feel what i feel.

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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: afoaf]
    #4816076 - 10/17/05 03:07 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

wow, the amount of racism in this thread was more than i thought

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but the Black Supremacist (Farrahkan) marched to cheers in DC....




i would argue that Farrahkan, and the KKK stand for 2 different things, if its not already quite obvious.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: kotik]
    #4816146 - 10/17/05 03:25 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

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kotik said:
wow, the amount of racism in this thread was more than i thought

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but the Black Supremacist (Farrahkan) marched to cheers in DC....




i would argue that Farrahkan, and the KKK stand for 2 different things, if its not already quite obvious.





its not.



"The Jews don't like Farrakhan, so they call me Hitler. Well, that's a good name. Hitler was a very great man. He rose Germany up from the ashes."

During his November 1970 "Black Solidarity Day Address," Farrakhan urges black men to "take this beautiful woman ? she's your queen! She's your jewel. Don't let a white man get near this black woman. And last but not least, black man, don't let that white man at anytime in your life give you his white woman! We don't want her!"


Before a City College audience in New York, Farrakhan warns:

"The white man is our mortal enemy, and we cannot accept him. I will fight to see that vicious beast go down into the late of fire prepared for him from the beginning, that he never rise again to give any innocent black man, woman or child the hell that he has delighted in pouring on us for 400 years."


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: kotik]
    #4816482 - 10/17/05 04:45 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

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kotik said:
wow, the amount of racism in this thread was more than i thought




Than you thought when? Garble.
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i would argue that Farrahkan, and the KKK stand for 2 different things, if its not already quite obvious.




Racial separation? Displaying the actions of the Jews-in-Charge? Sounds the same to me.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4816600 - 10/17/05 05:14 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

They are quite similar. Anybody who thinks the jews are in charge is a fucking moron, hence they are both fucking morons.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4816607 - 10/17/05 05:15 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

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Racial separation? Displaying the actions of the Jews-in-Charge? Sounds the same to me.




Quote:

Quote:


i would argue that Farrahkan, and the KKK stand for 2 different things, if its not already quite obvious.




its not.




well, i certainly can't argue with that. let's just agree to disagree. i could see a parallel if for instance KKK was based in central Africa, where they had been captured and brought there against their will, or if there were 400 years of documented (on paper, video, photos, scars and tradition) of rich blacks' abuse of power towards the poor whites.

in either case they share a similarity in their radical views being of racial seperation, but their reasons could not be anymore different.

I guess if context is unimportant to you, or if you are indifferent to their reasons anyways then just finish your mountain dew and surf on.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4816612 - 10/17/05 05:16 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

I agree! I'm going to go watch some non-Jew owned TV Right now! Maybe MTV, thats got a lot of race-mixing and black culture on it. Oh, hah, nevermind.

Um, maybe some good ole Disney. Er, yea.

CNN? Washington post? NY times?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4816664 - 10/17/05 05:25 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

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I agree! I'm going to go watch some non-Jew owned TV Right now! Maybe MTV, thats got a lot of race-mixing and black culture on it. Oh, hah, nevermind.

Um, maybe some good ole Disney. Er, yea.

CNN? Washington post? NY times?




This is your idea of what runs the country??????????? Media???????

You really need to get a job and stop watching TV. I'd recommend....almost anything. There's what? 20 million jews in the whole country. If they're running it YOU are clearly of an inferior race. LOSER.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4816678 - 10/17/05 05:28 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

I don't watch TV. If you don't think that the media has an influence over people, you aren't that intelligent. OMG UR2 TEH LOSR! LOZMUFLOOZRES!


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4816710 - 10/17/05 05:38 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

i guess i am the real idiot, because I fail to see the link between Farrakhan, the KKK, and now all of a sudden.. the Jewish media empire.

here's a thought: if the influence really bothers you that much, watch less TV.. or even better, don't watch TV at all and perhaps pick up a book or two. I promise there are a few authors out there that aren't jewish, even though the publisher probably is.

your anti-semitism borders that of the KKK and Farrakhan alike, so again I fail to see any point whatsoever in your rant.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: kotik]
    #4816720 - 10/17/05 05:40 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

It's not that I watch TV, it's that the insidious one-eyed-jew-in-the-living-room tells white people how to live their lives. The jews coudln't have perpetrated their multicultural crap on us without this little device.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: kotik]
    #4816725 - 10/17/05 05:41 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

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i guess i am the real idiot, because I fail to see the link between Farrakhan, the KKK, and now all of a sudden.. the Jewish media empire.



Farrakhan is a black separatist. White racists like MagicalMystery are white separatists. Both want their race to be "clean" of any influence from the other race. See the connection now? I remember hearing that a while back Farrakhan had a meeting with Richard Butler(former head of the Aryan Nations), and they both had positive remarks to say about one another. My guess is that this is because their goals are the same.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4816727 - 10/17/05 05:42 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

I have an influence over people. I don't run the country. There are approximately 20 million jews in this country. They have roughly the same average net worth and income as everybody else. The same level of poverty. It's almost exactly equal as the average. Entertainment has influence, sure. It's not all jews. Newspapers have influence. It's not all jews. Not even close. Are they over-represented in those fields? Maybe. Are they under-represented on Wall Street? Definitely.

Anybody who thinks the jews run the country is a blithering idiot. And probably off his meds.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4816860 - 10/17/05 06:09 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

Thats moronic. Jews have MUCH MUCH higher incomes than other races.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4816873 - 10/17/05 06:12 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

magicalmystery is right, i am very close with a number of jews and one time they broke illuminati code and showed me the machine they use to vote on world weather conditions, soap opera plots, and the tilts on putting greens.


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    #4816916 - 10/17/05 06:24 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

:rofl::rofl::rofl:


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4817266 - 10/17/05 07:52 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

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MagicalMystery said:
Thats moronic. Jews have MUCH MUCH higher incomes than other races.




Jews aren't a "race"....


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4817313 - 10/17/05 08:01 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

Thry make more money and have more influence because they are educated at a much higher rate than the national average. This is not a sign of a conspiracy, though. It is a sign that their culture stresses education more than other cultures.


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    #4818242 - 10/17/05 11:17 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

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Farrakhan is a black separatist. White racists like MagicalMystery are white separatists. Both want their race to be "clean" of any influence from the other race. See the connection now? I remember hearing that a while back Farrakhan had a meeting with Richard Butler(former head of the Aryan Nations), and they both had positive remarks to say about one another. My guess is that this is because their goals are the same.




yes, i could make that connection for myself, but thank you for pointing it out even clearer. they are also alike because they are both males. and they both have first and last names. and they are powerful, but what I meant is that they stand for different things, by different means, although their goals may appear to be identical.


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