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OfflineHahzist
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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4808735 - 10/15/05 09:36 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Exactly. And they got what was expected.


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OfflineHahzist
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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808745 - 10/15/05 09:40 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Im goin out tonight. I just wanna say I've pretty much been playing devil's advocate. Somebody had to stick up for the black people =P

I mean everything I said I do believe, if the blacks came out, kicked some ass and that was it, I say fuck yah.  But ofcourse what ACTUALLY went down was inexcusable by the blacks. They even had that socialist group come support them and protest against the nazis..there really was no reason for the looting and attacking of police officers, that is fucked up, and I cant help but to just turn the other cheek bc I'll never understand why they would do that :frown:


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4808753 - 10/15/05 09:42 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Anyone should be allowed to protest/march for whatever ideology they please, even if that ideology is violent in nature. As long as there is no direct incitation of violent behavior, free speech should be applied to them. When you say that a particular ideology is violent in nature, you begin to blur the lines of free speech - whose to say that other unpopular ideas are not violent? If there's enough people opposed to certain ideas, that's when free speech is the most at risk and such people should never be allowed to draw the lines of contitutionality. Free speech must always remain an objective dictation and principal, regardless how we feel about certain ideologies that are heretical in one's eyes.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4809250 - 10/16/05 12:00 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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Hahzist said:
Im goin out tonight. I just wanna say I've pretty much been playing devil's advocate. Somebody had to stick up for the black people =P



You weren't 'sticking up' for black people. You were defending rioters and looters.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4809270 - 10/16/05 12:06 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

I wonder how farakahn and sharpton will spin this?

has anyone even fallen harder for the bait?


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OfflineMagicalMystery
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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4809427 - 10/16/05 01:12 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

Your responces have been the most logically inconsisent babble I've ever read.


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OfflineMagicalMystery
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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4809438 - 10/16/05 01:16 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

Just to let you know about the article you linked to of the attacks that happen "all the time", it's dated 30 Auh 2000. Five years. Might not be the best way to back up your position.


Using your logic, so far, I've determind that force and violence can be used against those that gather to speak their mind, as long as that group has demonstrated it's propensity towards violence. Well, blacks are SEVEN TIMES as likely as whites to commit murder and much more likely to commit a hate crime. Given these facts and your critera, I say that we start (sarcasm mode on) shooting all gatherings of blacks, to include churches, public speeches and marches for civil rights (sarcasm off).

See the problem in your line of "thinking"


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OfflineMagicalMystery
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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Hahzist]
    #4809442 - 10/16/05 01:19 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

Hahzist said:
Im goin out tonight. I just wanna say I've pretty much been playing devil's advocate. Somebody had to stick up for the black people =P



Any time a black person does something horrific and obviously wrong, it's the job of some white guy somewhre to stand up for them? Why?
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I mean everything I said I do believe, if the blacks came out, kicked some ass and that was it, I say fuck yah.  But ofcourse what ACTUALLY went down was inexcusable by the blacks.




So if they came out and attacked people who were marching peacefully, that would be OK.  Instead, they did exactly that, and it's inexcusable?  Sorry you totally lost me
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They even had that socialist group come support them and protest against the nazis..there really was no reason for the looting and attacking of police officers, that is fucked up, and I cant help but to just turn the other cheek bc I'll never understand why they would do that :frown:



Because violent looting is the natural instinct of the American negro.  I'm not saying it's genetic or whatever, but I"m saying that in that situation, american negros seem more likely to loot and riot than other groups.


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Charles A. Lindbergh,"Aviation, Geography, and Race", Reader's Digest, Nov. 1939

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OfflineMagicalMystery
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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: afoaf]
    #4809445 - 10/16/05 01:20 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

Don't group Farakkhan and Sharpton as the voices of the black community. Farakkhan is a black nationalist who wants black people to take responsibilty for themselves and govern themselves in a nation free of oppression and outside influence. Sharpton is just another black man blaming whitie and getting poll points for it.


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From the Declaration of the Continental Congress

"We can have peace and security only as long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood."
Charles A. Lindbergh,"Aviation, Geography, and Race", Reader's Digest, Nov. 1939

"We must secure the existance of our people and a future for White children."
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OfflineMikeOLogical
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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4809448 - 10/16/05 01:21 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

*seven times more likely to get arrested for their crimes... there are no statistics on unreported crime...


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OfflineMagicalMystery
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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #4809457 - 10/16/05 01:25 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

So it could go either way and is thus totally invalid to bring up and meant to obfuscate the issue. The "Oh, maybe more whites just got away with it" is just that, a maybe. You have no evidence, nor do I, but you are muddying the waters. I'd say that more gang-land murders go unsolved than any other type of murder, but thats just my assumption.


And, of course, sevenfold is a massive difference. Maybe if blacks were 150% as likely as whites to commit a murder I could see interpreting it as possible bias. It just sounds almost impossible for a vast conspiracy where blacks are arrested sevenfold as much as whites.

Also, most of the posts I see here talk about how racists are a dwindling group. If this is true, then where would all of these racist policemen be coming from that were letting white killers go free and capturing black men at such a disproportinate rate?


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"Men trained in arms from their infancy, and animated by the love of liberty, will afford neither a cheap or easy conquest."
From the Declaration of the Continental Congress

"We can have peace and security only as long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood."
Charles A. Lindbergh,"Aviation, Geography, and Race", Reader's Digest, Nov. 1939

"We must secure the existance of our people and a future for White children."
David Lane


Edited by MagicalMystery (10/16/05 01:27 AM)


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OfflineAmber_Glow
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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4809513 - 10/16/05 01:55 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

Fuck that shit MagicalMystery why dont you actually read my posts and try to find the actual point of what im saying. Its not that fucking hard to comprehend. Anyway, what ACTUALLY happened was not that the blacks beat the shit out of nazis which is what the debate was about (if that had happened). I was pointing out that what actually happened was the looting of stores and fighting with police officers which is inexcusible to me. Beating the shit out of nazis however is excusible. Please read and understand whats going on instead of jumping in and acting like a dick.


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #4809517 - 10/16/05 01:56 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

Woops sorry this is Hahzist im at buddies house and im on his account by accident, please dont hold anything i say against Amber_Glow =P


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OfflineMagicalMystery
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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #4809541 - 10/16/05 02:10 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

Amber_Glow said:
Beating the shit out of nazis however is excusible. Please read and understand whats going on instead of jumping in and acting like a dick.




What a complete loon. Bye now, scurry along.


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"We can have peace and security only as long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood."
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"We must secure the existance of our people and a future for White children."
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OfflineMikeOLogical
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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4809567 - 10/16/05 02:18 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

and you say you got past the admissions board at duke medical school? did you happen to mention any of your racial views?

or more importantly, will you be able to set them aside when treating minority patients?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #4809577 - 10/16/05 02:22 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

They don't really ask about that.  MCAT scores were a bit more important. :smile:


If I were put in a situation where black looters were being shot by business owners and brought into the emergency room, I'd put them at the bottom of the list.  If they died, I wouldn't be upset.


If a young black girl was hit by a bus, I'd do everything in my power to save her life.


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From the Declaration of the Continental Congress

"We can have peace and security only as long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood."
Charles A. Lindbergh,"Aviation, Geography, and Race", Reader's Digest, Nov. 1939

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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4809587 - 10/16/05 02:24 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

so you would probe into the situation and determine if a minority was worthy before administering treatment?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #4809595 - 10/16/05 02:26 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

If I knew that ANYONE was a scumbag, I wouldn't operate on them, no.


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"Men trained in arms from their infancy, and animated by the love of liberty, will afford neither a cheap or easy conquest."
From the Declaration of the Continental Congress

"We can have peace and security only as long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood."
Charles A. Lindbergh,"Aviation, Geography, and Race", Reader's Digest, Nov. 1939

"We must secure the existance of our people and a future for White children."
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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4809607 - 10/16/05 02:29 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

so how could someone coming to you for treatment insure that he'd not be deemed a scumbag by you? would you put up a poster in the er saying "you are a scumbag if:...?" and telling them to seek treatment elsewhere?


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Re: Ohio riot? [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #4809622 - 10/16/05 02:32 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

First off, I'm not planning on being a trauma surgeon, so it's not that big of a deal.

Second off, if a private doctor refuses to see a patient, it's not a big deal. It's not like their is a shortage of doctors out there.

Lets just dream up a scenario that I think might answer your question.

Lets say that I was the only thorasic surgeon in a 2 hour radius one night. I was called and told that during a riot, a black man had been wounded breaking into someones house to rob them. Could I please come assist? My answer would be no. I wouldn't spend my time saving that persons life.


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"We can have peace and security only as long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood."
Charles A. Lindbergh,"Aviation, Geography, and Race", Reader's Digest, Nov. 1939

"We must secure the existance of our people and a future for White children."
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